Oh, of course, i should hsve known. You know a lady who has one but you haven't seen the tree for 2 years but you know it was 6 feet and didnt hold fruit to maturity. Well, i will clarify, not only is 6 feet small for setting fruit , in addition i have not seen them set fruit and not have the fruit mature due to size/age. Once they set fruit they usually hold to maturity so long as the tree is healthy, even those grown in large pots. But hey, what the hell do i know...now where did i put that Mamas and the Papas CD...