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On the discussion about Cecilove, this year they tasted more like Zinc than Sweet Tart, which was the opposite in prior years. Nothing wrong with that of course because Zinc is superb (when ripened properly).

And as an all-around tree (not strictly flavor), Cecilove is superior to both

Another Indochinese hybrid type that impressed was 34-15. AlThough the fruit came out really small.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill 23-2 mango
« on: November 15, 2021, 08:36:34 AM »
Haven’t been impressed with it yet and it’s prone to rot.

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Our Bennett (well, the older of two) flowered and fruited this year only two years after we grafted it. Pretty impressive for an Alphonso in south Florida.

The fruit actually had spongey tissue problems but so did our regular Alphonso for the first time in forever. I’m optimistic it won’t be a long term problem and think Bennet will outperform the regular by a long shot.

White hasn’t fruited yet but I’ve had strong support voiced for it by people familiar with the fruit. I’m optimistic about that one too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite South Florida Nursery
« on: November 04, 2021, 09:24:38 PM »
Thanks for the mentions everyone. We appreciate the love and trying to crank out as many trees as possible right now.

Lots of great nurseries talked about. Julian Lara is a friend and does great work producing rare tropicals.

Some new ones out in the Loxahatchee area have emerged in the last couple years that will make some noise too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Osteen Mango - as a late variety
« on: September 07, 2021, 10:26:26 PM »
Hopefully the budwood for you Osteen tree didn’t come from the fruit and spice park .
I do not believe it did. 
Is there a story I should know?

The one at the park is a fraud and actually an Eldon. Some trees that were grafted from it made it into the nursery trade at one point years ago.
Not certain but I think this might be from the USDA collection,, circa 2018.
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Good, then it should be the real deal. Fairchild Garden also had a real Osteen which is where the budwood for our own tree came from.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Osteen Mango - as a late variety
« on: September 06, 2021, 09:59:25 AM »
Hopefully the budwood for you Osteen tree didn’t come from the fruit and spice park .
I do not believe it did. 
Is there a story I should know?

The one at the park is a fraud and actually an Eldon. Some trees that were grafted from it made it into the nursery trade at one point years ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Osteen Mango - as a late variety
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:13:25 PM »
Hopefully the budwood for your Osteen tree didn’t come from the fruit and spice park .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango id please: ST Maui or alphonso?
« on: August 23, 2021, 10:32:45 AM »
The fruit in the photo is ST Maui

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does this look like an M-4 Mango?
« on: August 21, 2021, 08:28:34 PM »
No. Might be Sugarloaf though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf vs. Piña Colada Mango
« on: July 31, 2021, 10:05:50 AM »
Piña Colada is a lot more disease prone than Sugarloaf when it comes to anthracnose and PM. I like them both equally in terms of flavor despite the differences between them. Sugarloaf is likely to be the better long-term performer for backyard growers in terms of production.

I suppose Piña Colada is a “slower” grower. They flush at about the same rate but Pina Colada has shorter internodal spacing between the leaves.
Do you agree with Simon that Sugarloaf has a lot more coconut flavor?

Yes. In fact, Pina Colada at “normal” ripe stage tastes closer to Dot, in a good way. The “Piña Colada” flavor doesn’t shine until it’s on the more ripe side.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf vs. Piña Colada Mango
« on: July 30, 2021, 11:30:57 AM »
Piña Colada is a lot more disease prone than Sugarloaf when it comes to anthracnose and PM. I like them both equally in terms of flavor despite the differences between them. Sugarloaf is likely to be the better long-term performer for backyard growers in terms of production.

I suppose Piña Colada is a “slower” grower. They flush at about the same rate but Pina Colada has shorter internodal spacing between the leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Giselle
« on: July 25, 2021, 11:35:33 PM »
The Brix readings on these have been in the 20s. It’s a deep rich, complex Indian/West Indian flavor. Nothing “average” about that.

One of the best varieties of the year, and there have been some great ones.
Paul Nison and I had one a few days ago next to an excellent Sugarloaf (another favorite) and we both agreed the Giselle was the better mango on that particular day.

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November-December

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any info on Apricot Mango?
« on: July 25, 2021, 08:27:04 PM »
Apricot is close enough to Bombay in flavor that I think it could make a good alternative to Bombay should it prove more consistently productive in the long run. Bombay doesn’t flower well in south Florida, at least for the last decade or so.

The other Bombay descendants like Emerald and the Jakarta-line don’t come quite as close to mimicking it’s taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any info on Apricot Mango?
« on: July 25, 2021, 12:30:30 AM »
Growth habit has only been moderate and canopy somewhat open so far. Fruited in year two (tree is a topwork).

I’m pretty positive it is a Bombay derivative . Flavor is extremely similar and it makes sense given Bombay/ Pairi was one of the Indian mangos available in south Florida 100 years ago.

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Sophie Frey’s biggest drawback is the size of the fruit. Ours had a fairly substantial crop though, which probably impacted the individual fruit size to an extent.

Most people that tried the fruit this year seemed to enjoy it.

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Thanks for the comments guys.

Friday is going to be our last day of regular hours. We’ve been open daily since April so we’ve done alright.

Going to sell by appointment after that, into August I would expect.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does this look like MBBS on my fruit?
« on: July 12, 2021, 09:17:50 PM »
In the first photo the mbbs lesión is visible in the middle of the anthracnose/rot spot. The lesion from the mbbs is what allows the fungí to enter the fruit and cause the necrosis.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does this look like MBBS on my fruit?
« on: July 11, 2021, 01:37:19 PM »
Yes

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Diamond tastes awful to me and the vast majority of consumers that sample it, but there’s a small percentage (let’s say 15% or something) that really like it. Usually people that really enjoy ripe Thai mangos which often contain that vegetable component.

I’d heard Richard hadn’t got much fruit from his Ceciloves the last couple years so that could explain why they haven’t talked it up as much.

We’ve had very good results with Cecilove here however.

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I like Dupuis better than Simmonds but it’s kind of a shy bearer compared to the modern commercial varieties.

I haven’t measured but suspect there isn’t much of a difference in oil content between the two. Both are very low in oil (single digit %) as is typical of pure West Indian types. But It’s also not relevant to the flavor. Bacon avocado, for example , has much higher oil than Dupuis but Dupuis’ flavor is better. Really only matters if you’re intending to use it for guacamole or don’t care for the texture.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: YIKES ....$5.00/lb for mangoes
« on: June 12, 2021, 12:11:01 AM »
At our fruit stand picked fruit is $4/pound and drops are $2/pound.

Preordered fruit is $5 a pound (and probably includes all the stuff you actually want  Mike ;) ….well except Pim Sen Mun.)
Thanks Alex!😊 tomorrow it's off to Sea Crest Boulevard to see Truly Tropical Chris

I did not come anywhere close to empting my right pocket and didn't even touch the left.😊




Thanks Monty, hope you enjoy your vacation and that the mangos taste great.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: YIKES ....$5.00/lb for mangoes
« on: June 11, 2021, 08:08:36 PM »
At our fruit stand picked fruit is $4/pound and drops are $2/pound.

Preordered fruit is $5 a pound (and probably includes all the stuff you actually want  Mike ;) ….well except Pim Sen Mun.)




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sunburst mango variety question
« on: May 30, 2021, 08:59:10 AM »
It’s Fruit Cocktail

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango second crop
« on: May 04, 2021, 09:44:51 AM »
We have a huge bloom on Madame Frances now too.

Still some sparse bloom on a bunch of other varieties.

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