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Tropical Fruit Discussion / information about Annona senegalensis
« on: October 18, 2021, 04:24:05 PM »
Hi, i read about https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/annona-senegalensis-wild-custard-apple-seeds this tree which is said to be great not only for its fruit but also for its flowers and leaves and every part of it. I m still puzzled, because Annonas in general are thought to be dangerous because of annonacin in their leaves, seeds, or peel; also, such a small fruit 5 cm at most, may have very little to eat if it is full of inedible seeds. So, is it worthwhile? Any experience about it?
Thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trying to find a Tamarillo tree
« on: June 26, 2021, 11:26:37 AM »
it is ridiculous to search for it in Belgium or Europe, America is the richest place in plants. Me living in Greece i can only get plants from Europe, that is mostly Italy and Holland. Don't worry, only persevere, tamarillos are easy plants to grow. I know sibundoyensis is not currently available at tradewindsfruit, but just keep watching that site, it is a reliable site, they only sell live and viable seeds, i buy from them since years and i can give my word for them. Of course, there are nurseries too selling living plants in America, countless times i have found plants sold on line by American nurseries but i was disappointed because normally they do not send plants overseas. For me you sound like the Chinese proverb "holding a lantern and searching for fire". Persevere for three years to have tamarillos in your place, it will reward you, betacea's flowers are so lovely scented! By the way, have you seen huertasurbanas in this forum? Based in Argentina, he sells many good seeds, i recommend his annonaceae.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trying to find a Tamarillo tree
« on: June 25, 2021, 02:26:27 PM »
Hi, i have grown Cyphomandra Corymbiflora from seed, it grows big but the fruit is not really interesting, it is the size of olive with the taste of cooked eggplant.
Then i bought two little trees from Belgium https://www.andrewsgarden.be/en/special-plants/tamarillo-hybride-cyphomandra-betacea/a-680-35 it is orange color fruited, the leaves are big and glorious and the flowers have a lovable scent, the fruits ripen further if kept after fallen unripe.
I have tried to grow https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/cyphomandra-sibundoyensis-forest-tamarillo-seeds the seeds sprout easily, but no seedlings survived.
Also i bought Casana (cyphomandra cajanumensis) from New Zeland, https://www.edible.co.nz/ all the seeds sprouted, but no seedling survived the winter. Most of them died because they needed a sunny position, protected from animals and insects, also protect from snow during their first year.
So far, only betacea has been satisfactory, but try your luck also with sibundoyensis, it makes quite a bigger fruit that commercial tamarillo (betacea).
All these kinds are easy to grow if you apply basic common sense and wonderful when you see them growing adult, and they all survive a few degrees below freezing after their first year; so  persevere and i m sure you will succeed. Note, the snow may leave them bare branches with tips "burnt off" but they regrow glorious!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: red jaboticaba, quick to fruit
« on: June 25, 2021, 02:05:17 PM »
Ašu Paulista seeds have been offered here on the forum for less than that. I got my seeds last summer from another forum member. Keep an eye on the Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade section and some Ašu Paulista seeds will probably come up for sale in the near future.
Also, Ašu Paulista is not the same variety as the red jaboticaba.

thanks for the information. When your Ašu Paulista trees fruit, please let us know, so we confirm that it fruits in 4 years from seed

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / red jaboticaba, quick to fruit
« on: June 23, 2021, 01:38:55 PM »
Hi! today i longed for this: https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/plinia-cauliflora-acu-paulista-seeds but i cannot afford it because i do not have any free space for it, maybe in the future... So, since i cannot have it, i let you know, so my friends, all fruit lovers here, have a chance to enjoy it! cheers!

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thank you Forester and Satya, i don't worry about the taste, there is no food that i cannot like except if unripe, but cassabanana is eaten unripe too. My only worry is about toxicity, are the leaves or seeds toxic? From what you have said, i understand it is not toxic. It must be like an ordinary melon which has bitter seeds and bitter sprouts, but still not toxic, and i do juice melon together with skin and seeds, it gets a touch of bitterness but no problem for me. So i believe i can juice cassabanana together with skin and seeds, without any problem of toxicity, and even eat the seeds from the unripe fruit. Correct me if i mistake it.

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Hi! Yucca capensis is nowhere in the forum yet, still i hope somebody knows about it.

Do you think it is self fertile or not? I can grow at least two of them together, will they set fruit then? What about a single plant?

I hope it is NOT like yucca baccata, that would be bad news as yucca baccata needs a special species of insect to cross pollinate and that special insect is obviously not available away from the plant's native range.

I have only seen the fruit of Yucca capensis in photos, is there anybody here who knows more about that fruit? Or about yuccas in general, aren't there self-fruiting species of yucca?

Thank you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cassana (sicana odorifera) prospects
« on: June 07, 2021, 08:09:00 AM »
since nobody has replied and still this vine must be familiar to many people, i bring the questions again, so i do not have to experiment with myself to find how safe the plant is

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hi, i asked a similar question about persimmons and nobody answered. After much consideration i m thinking towards position of the trees. Is there enough water and good drainage? Is there plenty of sun? Maybe even overprotection from wind can be harmful. In the case of mango, could those be unpollinated fruits? I have never grown mango up to the fruiting stage, but others may confirm or reject, whether mango needs to be pollinated to set fruit. Other types of fruit set without pollination and hence without seed, but some fruit need to be pollinated. A neighbor has a passiflora caerulaea, its flowers rarely turn to fruit and those fruits are usually empty, skin only, rarely with one or two seeds surrounded by arils, but that does not make an eatable fruit. If that is the case, put a male tree in the middle of six females.

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Hi! i saw somebody on youtube who tried a cassabanana for the first time and said that the leaves and seeds are poisonous. Is there any truth in it? So, if i put whole pieces of a cassabanana in a juicer, will it yield some poison from crushed seeds or maybe from the fruit skin? And then, if you eat it still unripe as a vegetable, would you remove the seeds?
They say it can be grown in temperate areas as a long season annual, but let us suppose i sprout it indoors during April (north hemisphere) in 9b zone and after it sprouts i take it outside, will it grow to bear ripe fruit before winter?
And what will happen if i sow the seeds in June, will it have time to bear fruit?
Thank you for your experience!

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the only guy I know of passed away. There is a supplier in France but he never sent me a reply

Who is that supplier in France? Some address for them? Probably they do not send to America, but maybe to Europe...

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Hi! my persimmon makes lots of flowers, but every year (this year not yet) it drops lots of fruit while they are still unripe during summer. It still produces a good number of ripe fruit during winter. I m not sure what cultivar it is, it is the type that can be eaten only when fully mature, better maturing on the tree. Somebody told me the tree does so because it cannot keep all those fruit. I still don't understand much. If the tree cannot keep the fruit, then why does it make so many fruits to grow almost the size of a ripe fruit and then lets them fall prematurely? And, could the fruit still be preserved (until maturity) by means of adding some fertilizing material, or by means of more pruning? Or by means of what?
Your expertise will be greatly useful on this matter. Thank you!

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some questions so i may prepare my next order:
Annona squamosa x cherimola: how hardy, how long time from seed to fruit, sun and water requirements, self fertile?
Graviola de monta˝a, Posadas, dry: how big fruit, how long from seed to fruit, how easy to germinate (this is the dry version), self fertile? Does it prefer sun or shade? Water requirements?
And, what about Inga? Can we expect some Inga variety with good pulp ratio, hardy to zone 9b, self fertile? How long from seed to fruit for Inga?
thank you!

By the way let me inform you, the Pereskia aculeata that was damaged by the snow when it was just a few months old, now shows signs of life, when it roots firmly it will withstand winters.

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Compared to rainwater, faucet water is poison for the plants! Somebody with a good knowledge of physical sciences has told me "if you must use faucet water, leave it in the container for about 10 minutes before using it, so that the chlorine content has time to evaporate". When it rains i collect as much as i can, but i don't have the facilities for it that a good house can have; i mean, the means to collect from the roof and the space to set up a tank or barrel. The biggest container i use receives water from the neighbor's drain pipe, and when that is full, i transfuse to smaller containers and watering cans by means of an old hose from an old hand-shower (making use of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicating_vessels). It is fun to watch the water moving through the hose to the smaller container.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Toona sinensis
« on: April 27, 2021, 10:47:03 AM »
They should be fine. I was given root suckers from a tree planted outside without protection in Illinois. D
Hi! i have never seen this tree unless in video, but based on this page https://jurassicplants.co.uk/collections/all-plants/products/toona-sinensis-onion-tree under "specification" it says it is hardy to -10 Celsius and fast growing. For zone 10 as yours, it should be best to take it outdoors to its permanent position just now, by the end of April. With some fencing to protect from animals, of course. Let us know if any cat bite it because of the meaty smell.

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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Toona sinensis
« on: April 26, 2021, 09:34:08 AM »
supposely the younger leaves can be used for cooking...someone told me if you crush them..it can smell like chicken soup or something. (i tried...not really).

i have one that my parents planted i assume a long time ago....and that's the only reason i still have it around

i'm i socal and it does drop most of its leaves during the winter here though it's suppose to be deciduous.
you r the only one who finds that tree uninteresting. Still your opinion will be useful, as i have never seen that tree real and i m asking different people to form an opinion whether to buy or not. What do the leaves taste like to you? If it does not smell like chicken soup or something, what does it smell like?

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When the crows nibbled at my persimmons, well, i cleaned the bitten part and ate them (ate the persimmons, not the crows). Rarely that happened with very little birds. There is a traditional belief that if you eat from the same plate or drink from the same cup, then you learn the secrets of that person who drank/ate from the same receptacle. So, after eating the same fruit, i hope to learn the secrets of the birds!
Well, the birds nibbled at many persimmons and ate no whole fruit, not even a large part of any fruit; so, if i did not eat those persimmons, i would lose too many of them. As to the strawberries that the woodlice ate, i did not eat the remnants, because that was no nibbling: they eat the whole strawberry from inside and leave only a thin empty outline of strawberry.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon apple Pouteria hypoglauca
« on: April 01, 2021, 04:38:56 PM »
excuse me, is Pouteria hypoglauca really tropical? Could it survive snow for 2 days or so?

I have a seedling from 2017 in the ground.
It was 34F this year one night and 29F last year and was fine?
Last year my tortoise's waterbowl was frozen solid and this
year the ice was just forming. Those were somewhat brief
periods?
i see, it is quite hardy to cold, but snow is something different, snow causes burns on human skin, and "burns" to plants. Have you had any snow?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cinnamon apple Pouteria hypoglauca
« on: March 28, 2021, 11:41:47 AM »
excuse me, is Pouteria hypoglauca really tropical? Could it survive snow for 2 days or so?

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Hi, i m searching about Condalia microphylla (small trees), not much information in English on the internet, i would like to know how big the fruit is, how long time from sowing to fruit, what about the taste, and possible toxicity.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Akebia how long wait for fruit
« on: March 10, 2021, 01:30:24 PM »
the description is reminiscent of Chayote, which spreads far from its original seed, both in the earth and above. If it really fruits even the first or second year, it is worth trying it.

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As far as I know, there's a self-pollinating Che variety. Unless you can get that one, you'll need a male tree too.
probably palmaverde in Holland have the self pollinating variety. DMKert in Hungary say it is theoretically self-fertile, but better plant a male one too.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Akebia how long wait for fruit
« on: March 09, 2021, 08:45:43 AM »
thank you, Daintree. Since you say the seeds are bitter, this means you chew them to know their taste. So, they cannot be so hard as, for example, opuntia cactus seeds (Opuntia Engelmannii, see my profile picture) which are too hard to be chewed by any human.

Today i was looking in my yard for a sunny place to plant Akebia, well there is a spot where Akebia can be planted to receive plenty of sunlight, but i wonder, maybe in zone 9b can they grow and fruit well in half-shade?

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Hi,
this site https://www.palmaverde.nl/en/cudrania-tricuspidata.html?id=229030139 says Cudrania tricuspidata "Gives fruit without pollination", but here https://pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Cudrania+tricuspidata they say "both male and female plants must be grown if seed is required". So i m a little confused. I m thinking to plant two female trees, will they fruit or not? Maybe they will fruit but with seedless fruit? (even better, if that is the case). What is your experience?

By the way, any advice on watering and exposure to sun? Does Che prefer sun or shade?

thank you!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Akebia how long wait for fruit
« on: March 08, 2021, 12:41:24 PM »
Thank you Daintree! You say the seeds are bitter. Can't we simply swallow the seeds so as not to taste them? Aren't they small enough to swallow? What do you do with the seeds, chew them or swallow without chewing? I have read that the pods are very tasty after you keep them in water overnight to remove the bitterness, the Japanese stuff them with mince meat and cook (or soy mince if you avoid meat). This sounds like the old Greek recipe of stuffing zucchini with mince and rice and cook. Worth trying.
I could not buy until now because i could not find quinata and trifoliata together, now i found two places to buy both, good luck!

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