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Months ago, I bought some Orri mandarins at local supermarket.   They are very sweet with a clean and pleasant flavor.  It has a shin easy peel  rind with no seeds.  Web articles say its patent is expiring, so hopefully the trees will show up in market.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Madison Citrus Nursery.
« on: July 19, 2021, 01:45:22 PM »

It looks very efficient design.   I guess it will need expand with time.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Madison Citrus Nursery.
« on: July 18, 2021, 08:27:41 PM »
Can Kerji and Shiranui pass the NC winter? or what will be the effective protection for winter?

Super nice guy, Mr Boyd is. I bought some Keraji and shiranui from him last month.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: picking cutting for propagation
« on: July 03, 2021, 02:04:39 PM »

Very good.  I tried a couple of times.  No success.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seeds from Orri Orange germinated
« on: June 30, 2021, 02:00:48 PM »

It is really encouraging.   It will be interesting to see what we get.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seeds from Orri Orange germinated
« on: June 29, 2021, 11:24:55 PM »
Galatians522, and W.,

Appreciate your valuable info.   Will be patient to see what we can get.

Citrus General Discussion / Seeds from Orri Orange germinated
« on: June 29, 2021, 06:24:22 PM »
Last month, I bought about 10 Orri oranges and found 4-5 very small seeds.
After one ~month in pot, I found two of them germinated as the two photos below.   Hopefully, they can grow into trees.   So, we will see:
1, How many years will they grow into a reasonable size tree?
2, Will they bear the same fruits (like Orri), or something else?
3, I may try to graft them to a mature tree to see if it can be accelerated. 

Thanks Brian, now I have a hope for it. 


Will this bud grow a new flush?  It looks still alive but no clear indication of new flushes.   It had one in early spring which dried out.

Thanks all for the valuable info.    Last two years it did a lot of damages to the young trees.  So, hopefully, I can manage it to some levels.

I only found them on 4-5 new leaves of Eureka.  Not much from other citrus trees yet.  I spay the new growth with soap/pepper/rosemary every week but these 4-5 leaves might be missed.   So will continue monitoring.

So far, it only happened to 3-4 leaves among about 50-100 of new shoots.   The flushes have been treated with soap water/pepper/rosemary every 3-4 days, so will closely monitor it in next a few of weeks.


Last a couple of years, I had so much of CLM.  Surely I didn't do much with them but they remembered my tree very persistently.

This year, all of my trees have healthy leaves with no CLM until this week, with small amount of new leaves emerge.   About 3-4 very young leaves were found with the CLM trails.

I will spray the young flush with soap plus peppers and rosemary extract.  If it does not work, will switch to use more powerful methods as yours.


Today, I found 4-5 citrus leafminer damaged leaves, not many.   Can I cut them? 

 The trees have most fully developed leaves, with a few of new growths.   If not many new leaves get CLM, can I continue monitoring and cutting?   I will also use insecticidal soap to spay on the new growths.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: mealybug destroyer ladybugs
« on: June 07, 2021, 04:12:52 PM »
I found 1-2% soap water is very effective to whitefly.   But I only did it in outdoor and mostly spot treatment.  For green house and repeated treatment, accumulation could be a concern.

My tough problems are leaf miner  and thrips.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: mealybug destroyer ladybugs
« on: June 02, 2021, 07:14:39 PM »

Would wasp be good green house helpers?   They are easy to found.

 "Paper wasps and yellowjackets are beneficial insects. They feed on caterpillars and other insects that could damage crops or ornamental plants ..."

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Satsuma flowering
« on: May 28, 2021, 06:25:44 PM »
It is much bigger than a small tree.

At 8a, do you keep it outside for winter?

I always have ants and snail problems.   Based on the discussion here, I tried two items below: paint tape, and Vaseline, both purchased from dollar store.

The paint tape is applied with the non-sticky side toward the tree bark.  Then smear the Vaseline to the tape.  By this way, the vaseline has no contact with the bark.   It seems that the ant trail stopped for now.   The Vaseline may have to be reapplied once awhile when the dust accumulates that ants can walk over.    If the the paint tape gets too tight due the tree trunk expands, I will have to cut the tape and reapply the Vaseline.

Citrus General Discussion / Tasted Orri today
« on: May 04, 2021, 02:36:39 PM »
Today, I tasted an Orri orange bought from a local supermarket.

It has a very sweet (Sweeter than gold nugget or Sumo I had, much sweeter than Satsuma)and clean taste, with a slightly hint of sour, and very good flavor.  Peeling is easy.   The inside is easy to separate with tender texture with no residual.  It does not have the bitter or spice taste someone may prefer.

Overall, I would prefer Orri over Sumo.       

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Higher Fruit Production
« on: April 15, 2021, 07:37:23 PM »

Having a  Worlds Record definitely is exciting.   Also you may evaluate the  taste of fruits produced under partial shade or no-shade.


For your new post, if available, it might be interesting to include all those golds, honey (W. Murcutt), satsuma, and Xie Shan.

And Pixie, Tango and Page?


Nice big one.  Do you have a brix measure for it?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Recommendations on a mandarin tree
« on: March 21, 2021, 06:24:59 PM »
brian brought a good point.

I did see many articles or YouTube recommend vegetable oil, but some mentioned the vege oils may stay on leaves (due to high boiling point) so can catch dust or cause damage.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: mulch refresh day
« on: March 21, 2021, 06:15:36 PM »

Do they search for snails or slugs?  They could be tough pests in green house.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Recommendations on a mandarin tree
« on: March 19, 2021, 04:39:16 PM »
Thanks both.   Fighting with the pests is one of the keys for growing citrus. 

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