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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2021, 06:30:46 PM »
I'm interested in:

2x dongkui
2x biqi

I'm in San Diego. I can do local pickup.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2021, 07:18:45 PM »
I would like to buy 4 trees please

1x dongkui
2x biqi
1x Black Peak

I'm in Northern California so can pick up in the SF bayarea please 
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2021, 07:28:27 PM »
Hi I would like to add 4 more of each variety, so a total of 24 total 6 of each variety for Mark Lee in Chula Vista, San Diego.

Thanks
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2021, 07:53:25 PM »
Hi-

I am having difficulty accessing the google document but I would like one of each
Dongkui: large (20-40g), dark red, excellent flavor.
Black Peak: new variety. Very large(up to 68g), black, stores better than other varieties
An Hai: new variety. Early-maturing (mid May), medium fruit size (23g), purple black. Stores well

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2021, 01:37:25 AM »
I would be interested in one of each

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2021, 02:58:13 AM »
Please put me down for:
1 x Donkui
1 x Black Peak
1 x An Hai
1 x Biqi

Thanks for trying to pull this together beicadad!

Oh yeah, Iím in San Diego but you already knew that!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2021, 09:36:08 AM »
I would like:
1 x Donkui
1 x Black Peak
1 x Biqi

Iím in SW Florida and can pick up anywhere between Tampa and Ft Myers (or a little further if needed).

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2021, 12:27:03 PM »
What strategies will everyone be taking to mitigate transplant shock?

It looks like the folks at Calmei tried to import their trees originally, but they didn't survive to fruiting age https://www.californiabountiful.com/features/article.aspx?arID=2451

It's also good to know that these are nitrogen fixers too.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2021, 12:36:58 PM »
What strategies will everyone be taking to mitigate transplant shock?

It looks like the folks at Calmei tried to their import trees, but they didn't survive to fruiting age https://www.californiabountiful.com/features/article.aspx?arID=2451

It's also good to know that these are nitrogen fixers too.
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=634.0
Here's a good thread about caring for bare rooted trees.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2021, 04:30:34 PM »
What strategies will everyone be taking to mitigate transplant shock?

It looks like the folks at Calmei tried to their import trees, but they didn't survive to fruiting age https://www.californiabountiful.com/features/article.aspx?arID=2451

It's also good to know that these are nitrogen fixers too.
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=634.0
Here's a good thread about caring for bare rooted trees.

Thanks for the pointer! I think itís very important that people understand the risk of trees not surviving the transplant. As far as I know, the guy who got good success last time followed the same method. Others had pretty bad results.

This is exciting and scary at the same time. You may want to adjust your quantities before you commit and send money over!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2021, 05:07:44 PM »
What strategies will everyone be taking to mitigate transplant shock?

It looks like the folks at Calmei tried to their import trees, but they didn't survive to fruiting age https://www.californiabountiful.com/features/article.aspx?arID=2451

It's also good to know that these are nitrogen fixers too.

the link doesn't work for me

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2021, 06:58:50 PM »
I like to get two of each varieties, 8 trees all together.  San Diego, CA local pick up.  Thanks.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2021, 07:02:46 PM »
Guys I have a dilemma. I checked 1-day shipping cost at Fedex or UPS, say 20lbs in a 30x20x10 box. Shipping fee easily goes to $500, then there is cost of packaging as well. I don't have experience packing trees and I am concerned that you might not be happy at the conditions after receiving them.

Therefore I am leaning toward a SoCal, pick up only order this time. This must be pretty disappointing for some of you. If we are successful this time, maybe next time we can expand it to other regions.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2021, 07:20:33 PM »
Hi
I always use USPS EXPRESS MAIL service.  Not so expensive.
10 trees bareroot in wet sphagnum moss cost approximately 100 USD. Believe me I have a lot of experience. Anyway I can ask a friend for local pickup .

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« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2021, 07:23:21 PM »
You could check if airport to airport is cheaper. This is shipping it directly through an airline like Delta. The biggest hitch with this is someone has to drop them off at the departing airport and someone else has to pick it up at a the receiving airport. Itís more complicated but can save some money.  You could also see if someone on the forum has a business that does a lot of shipping since they can potentially get a dramatically better rate.

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« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2021, 07:32:31 PM »
I recently ordered 7 kousa dogwoods from a nursery who sent it express mail and they arrived within 3 days. Most were desiccated and dying when I got them in. That was less than 3 days shipping of several 2-ft bare root trees. I complained and they sent me 7 replacements, of which most survived because I told them to pack in a lot more moist paper towels..
When you go to repot the bare root trees, NEVER put them in full sun! For at least a few months. Perhaps extra humidity too.

That is my experience with bare root trees, can be pretty shotty..

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« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2021, 01:07:24 AM »
1 each of every variety.San Diego pick up.
Thanks!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2021, 09:29:00 AM »
Yes, very frustrating but understandable. Please document the process in detail so others can learn from your experience.

Guys I have a dilemma. I checked 1-day shipping cost at Fedex or UPS, say 20lbs in a 30x20x10 box. Shipping fee easily goes to $500, then there is cost of packaging as well. I don't have experience packing trees and I am concerned that you might not be happy at the conditions after receiving them.

Therefore I am leaning toward a SoCal, pick up only order this time. This must be pretty disappointing for some of you. If we are successful this time, maybe next time we can expand it to other regions.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2021, 10:25:11 AM »
Guys I have a dilemma. I checked 1-day shipping cost at Fedex or UPS, say 20lbs in a 30x20x10 box. Shipping fee easily goes to $500, then there is cost of packaging as well. I don't have experience packing trees and I am concerned that you might not be happy at the conditions after receiving them.

Therefore I am leaning toward a SoCal, pick up only order this time. This must be pretty disappointing for some of you. If we are successful this time, maybe next time we can expand it to other regions.

I could make the journey down to Socal for BayArea /Central Coast.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2021, 10:30:31 AM »
UPS ground shipping will be economical and will be next day for the area surrounding the shipper.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2021, 12:00:30 PM »
If this thing works out for the SoCal group, hopefully the members in other states can follow in your example and work out a group buy of their own. I donít think it will be too difficult for Florida members to rack up enough interest to reach a minimum plant order to make the group buy worth while.

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2021, 12:21:56 PM »
Guys I have a dilemma. I checked 1-day shipping cost at Fedex or UPS, say 20lbs in a 30x20x10 box. Shipping fee easily goes to $500, then there is cost of packaging as well. I don't have experience packing trees and I am concerned that you might not be happy at the conditions after receiving them.

Therefore I am leaning toward a SoCal, pick up only order this time. This must be pretty disappointing for some of you. If we are successful this time, maybe next time we can expand it to other regions.

I could make the journey down to Socal for BayArea /Central Coast.

Could also grab them from me? I have a long bed, could take all of the Bay's orders up to SB to save some time for you Nate

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2021, 01:08:00 PM »
For those curious, I've been doing a bit of research into the different varieties and found some interesting info.

Zhejiang (the main Yangmei producing provence), has an annual competition to judge different cultivars and growers. In 2020, the DongKui took first place to beat out Biqi with a soluble solid content of 15.5% to 14.7% respectively.

The winning farm is located in Lanxi. It looks to be USDA zone 9b/10a with an average annual rainfall of ~57", most of that coming in the spring/summer rainy season. I've visited Hangzhou, a couple hours drive north from Lanxi, and I can see why there is the old saying "上有天堂, 下有苏杭". It roughly means "Just as there is paradise in heaven, there are Suzhou and Hangzhou on earth".

Sources:

I'd be very interested to see what other information folks have found for the varieties on offer.
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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2021, 02:52:32 PM »
For those curious, I've been doing a bit of research into the different varieties and found some interesting info.

Zhejiang (the main Yangmei producing provence), has an annual competition to judge different cultivars and growers. In 2020, the DongKui took first place to beat out Biqi with a soluble solid content of 15.5% to 14.7% respectively.

The winning farm is located in Lanxi. It looks to be USDA zone 9b/10a with an average annual rainfall of ~57", most of that coming in the spring/summer rainy season. I've visited Hangzhou, a couple hours drive north from Lanxi, and I can see why there is the old saying "上有天堂, 下有苏杭". It roughly means "Just as there is paradise in heaven, there are Suzhou and Hangzhou on earth".

Sources:

I'd be very interested to see what other information folks have found for the varieties on offer.

Quality research, thank you for that!

I'm looking forward to the challenge of getting these bare-roots to survive.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order Survey
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2021, 04:22:29 PM »
beicadad, are you sure this doesn't require you to keep the plants for 2 years in quarantine at your place? I've had a permit before that required that I keep the imported plants whatever they are for 2 years before they could be moved out of my house. That was 7-8 years ago and I never renewed the permit.
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