Author Topic: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?  (Read 178 times)

Nosari7Viper

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Is it Possible to make a Fertile Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus sibirica Hybrid, Or a Fertile Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus salicina Hybrid?

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Re: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2021, 12:52:39 PM »
No, you shouldn't dream.
Plums are drupes
Eriobotrya belong to the same category as apples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany)#Pomes

So families that are so far apart botanically with evolution. That a hybridization is impossible or seems difficult to imagine.

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Re: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2021, 04:58:35 PM »
You could try but as said it would be a large and impressive feat

Interspecies crosses can vary in difficulty and intergenus species crosses are sometimes possible but often difficult - you probably would have to read into advanced botanical breeding techniques.

Some ""basic"" biological factors could be things like chromosome counts and ploidy (which you could research on your own), pollen collection & storage (if they don't flower at the same time) and fertilization barriers (some species don't like outcrossing)

Then the techniques of actual fertilization and germinating the cross: embryo rescue, sterile tissue culture, seedling vigor itself etc etc

I won't discourage you and I won't say its easy or (im)possible either. Luther Burbank supposedly had a rubus (raspberry sp) x fragaria (strawberry sp.) intergenus cross.

You could only find out by trying (and expect a lot of failures).
The good part is there is a lot of information and technique that can be done at home with modification and substitute including tissue culture. https://the-biologist-is-in.blogspot.com/2015/01/hybrid-sterility-and-speciation.html
Whatever cross may occur also may or may not bear fruit and may or may not be entirely sterile. Just a few things to consider but if you're motivated - read up, make some plans and go for it - GL!

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Re: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2021, 05:53:15 PM »
Thank you for your help

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Re: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2021, 12:04:09 PM »
It appears that loquat doesn't hybridize readily, even with other species in its own genus, but here's a paper discussing one technique to improve interspecies hybridization in loquat, so it might be worth a read if you plan to try for more distant hybrids:

https://journals.ashs.org/downloadpdf/journals/hortsci/55/3/article-p287.pdf
« Last Edit: June 07, 2021, 02:00:57 PM by swincher »

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Re: Is it Possible to make a Eriobotrya japonica × Prunus Hybrid?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2021, 07:25:30 PM »
Never heard of that cut - style pollination
not the easiest thing to find the definition to,
but I learned you have to cut the style the pollen travels down  shorter  so the flower can be pollinated.

there are some good topics already as well about hybrids of this

A Indian hawthorn intergeneric hybrid (was mentioned already in that article)
as copper tone,
as well as A hybrid trying to shorten the length of the flowering time with other species (eriobotrya)
since that  could have these fruit in colder places.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=39260.msg389007#msg389007

Pandan Great blog by the way

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