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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2013, 06:29:57 PM »
From seed 5+ years, from cutting 3+ years.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2013, 06:39:38 PM »
How long from flower till fruit Oscar and Coplantnut ?

Elaeagnus multiflora blooms here in early May, fruit is ripe by early July, so about 2 months...  But it is a different species.

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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2013, 06:39:47 PM »
Oscar , the question was how long from flowering to fruit .
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2013, 06:45:25 PM »
Oscar , the question was how long from flowering to fruit .

Ooops sorry. I think 2 months sounds about right. But i haven't time it. My tree produces a lot of flowers but very small percentage set fruit. I'm think a comanion tree might be in order?
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2013, 02:50:03 PM »
Oscar , the question was how long from flowering to fruit .

Ooops sorry. I think 2 months sounds about right. But i haven't time it. My tree produces a lot of flowers but very small percentage set fruit. I'm think a comanion tree might be in order?

Thank you Oscar . I have a companion tree about 20 meters and another at 100 meters . Crossing my fingers....
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2014, 08:31:43 PM »

On my way home from the cherimoya tasting today I stopped by Mimosa nursery in East LA to drool a bit. I resisted buying the Kajang carambola or the cinnamon tree, but did stumble upon an interesting find I couldn't resist: an Eleagnus labeled Cy Nht. Google translate seems to be particularly bad at translating Vietnamese, but a couple of pages (along with Oscar's postage stamp) seem to indicate it's E. latifolia. Here's the mystery: it looks nothing like Oscar's pictures of So Shang. Rather than the glossy, dark green leaves of Oscar's So Shang, it has the more typical rough, silvery foliage found in many other Eleagnus species. A larger (more expensive) Cy Nht had some fruit similar in size to So Shang, though it was unripe. Any thoughts?



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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2014, 09:18:02 AM »
From his close relative Elaeagnus umbellata. This litle cutting already in flower! 




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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2014, 10:30:12 AM »
Oscar , the question was how long from flowering to fruit .

Ooops sorry. I think 2 months sounds about right. But i haven't time it. My tree produces a lot of flowers but very small percentage set fruit. I'm think a comanion tree might be in order?

Thank you Oscar . I have a companion tree about 20 meters and another at 100 meters . Crossing my fingers....

Oscar , even with 2 companion trees I am also a little disappointed by the poor fruit set considering the huge amount of flowers .
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2014, 11:04:16 AM »
According to Wikipedia this group of plants has the potential to become invasive or noxious -- they might be worth growing with some type of netting or cover that prevents birds from spreading the seeds.  Though it also looks like the kind of bush that could be controlled -- I've often wished to try growing the Mysore raspberry in Thailand, but I'm too familiar with what blackberries can do in North America to risk letting something like that loose in the countryside. 

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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #60 on: January 25, 2014, 02:17:22 PM »
According to Wikipedia this group of plants has the potential to become invasive or noxious -- they might be worth growing with some type of netting or cover that prevents birds from spreading the seeds.  Though it also looks like the kind of bush that could be controlled -- I've often wished to try growing the Mysore raspberry in Thailand, but I'm too familiar with what blackberries can do in North America to risk letting something like that loose in the countryside.

Probably just about any plant can become invasive in the right environment. But here neither So shan nor mysore raspberry is much of a problem. The So shan seeds i think are too big and difficult for birds to spread around. The mysore doesn't spread through the roots, as does blackberry. It is a clumper.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2014, 03:25:08 PM »
It's totally true that any plant can become invasive -- I've always worried more about whether it's easy to control once it invades, and felt more comfortable growing something like a black sapote (big tree, easy to find an cut) than a bush or vine. 

I confess I hate this particular bush -- one time I ordered black sapote seeds and started growing them in Thailand, only one sprouted.  So I planted it out and watered it for three years, the whole time my in-laws kept complaining that it looked like a 'mahk-lawt', some word in the local dialect that I couldn't find in the dictionary.  Finally it became painfully obvious that it was not a black sapote tree, and turned out to be this thing.  At least I know now what its scientific name is. 

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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2014, 09:29:59 PM »
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_pages/assortment/fruit_market/19-8512_e.asp

Found a pic of this fruit while looking for info on Lingaro..

Oscar...did u say that this one is better than common lingaro? or very similar?

I'm starting to get curious about this plant...I don't have any fruits from this family yet...and they look like they'd be delicious.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2014, 11:40:43 PM »
Adam, I can send you cuttings of lingaro and my recent Vietnamese acquisition (likely/possibly E. latifolia) if you're interested.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2014, 02:40:53 AM »
http://www.efratnakash.com/galleries_pages/assortment/fruit_market/19-8512_e.asp

Found a pic of this fruit while looking for info on Lingaro..

Oscar...did u say that this one is better than common lingaro? or very similar?

I'm starting to get curious about this plant...I don't have any fruits from this family yet...and they look like they'd be delicious.


So-shang is bigger and much tastier than lingaro, at least the lingaro that i had that grew wild in Phillippines.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2014, 12:45:03 PM »
Thanks Oscar, and Emegar...

I have some of these growing near me, but I can't figure out which species I have...maybe I'll have to take some pics and post them.

I'm very curious to see what they taste like!
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2014, 06:37:38 PM »
Most of the Elaeagnus fruits i think are not very good quality. Latifolia is one of the better ones. To me it tastes like a tarty plum. It's the kind of fruit that grows on you. After eating it several times i'm really fond of it and look forward to it fruiting again. It needs to be picked totally ripe otherwise it has some astringency.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2014, 01:29:22 PM »
Mine are ripe now . Strangely enough some fruits turned out sweet , others pretty acid ( from the same tree ) , no astringency even eaten with peel and all.

Soren , did yours fruit finally ?
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2014, 01:31:49 PM »
Most of the Elaeagnus fruits i think are not very good quality. Latifolia is one of the better ones. To me it tastes like a tarty plum. It's the kind of fruit that grows on you. After eating it several times i'm really fond of it and look forward to it fruiting again. It needs to be picked totally ripe otherwise it has some astringency.
The cuts you send me don't sprout yet, but are not dry... it's normal? Thank's!

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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2014, 05:48:21 PM »
Wondering if one could make marmalade with this ?
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2014, 06:38:42 PM »
Wondering if one could make marmalade with this ?

I haven't tried it but i think it would make good marmalade, similar to plum.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2014, 06:40:33 PM »
Most of the Elaeagnus fruits i think are not very good quality. Latifolia is one of the better ones. To me it tastes like a tarty plum. It's the kind of fruit that grows on you. After eating it several times i'm really fond of it and look forward to it fruiting again. It needs to be picked totally ripe otherwise it has some astringency.
The cuts you send me don't sprout yet, but are not dry... it's normal? Thank's!

Keep them tented with plastic bag so they don't dry out. Did you use rooting hormone?
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2014, 09:10:44 PM »
Most of the Elaeagnus fruits i think are not very good quality. Latifolia is one of the better ones. To me it tastes like a tarty plum. It's the kind of fruit that grows on you. After eating it several times i'm really fond of it and look forward to it fruiting again. It needs to be picked totally ripe otherwise it has some astringency.
The cuts you send me don't sprout yet, but are not dry... it's normal? Thank's!

I have some cuts too...they take a while longer to push new growth....when compared to the lingaro.  I planted cuttings at the same time of both species...and the lingaro is much faster to root.

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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2014, 09:20:03 PM »
Such a cool fruit!!! It looks like finger lime and miracle fruit had a baby.
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Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2014, 07:30:03 AM »
Most of the Elaeagnus fruits i think are not very good quality. Latifolia is one of the better ones. To me it tastes like a tarty plum. It's the kind of fruit that grows on you. After eating it several times i'm really fond of it and look forward to it fruiting again. It needs to be picked totally ripe otherwise it has some astringency.
The cuts you send me don't sprout yet, but are not dry... it's normal? Thank's!

Keep them tented with plastic bag so they don't dry out. Did you use rooting hormone?
I plant them in a pot... yes i use rooting hormone. They looking good, so i'm waiting!  ::)