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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey and Green Sapote review
« on: March 24, 2023, 09:40:37 PM »
Kona coffee ice cream sounds great on its own, I've yet to try black sapote.

SD Dan, maybe other cultivars of Mamey have better texture and sweetness or the ones I tried may not have been at their best. 
I think hoshigaki and astringent persimmons are a lot sweeter and have more intense flavor, the green sapote flavor is mild but the taste is similar to me.  If I were to pick between the two, persimmons win.

I made both Mamey and Green Sapote milkshakes today to compare.  We liked the green sapote shake better than Mamey.  One of my daughters did not like the Mamey shake at all, she doesn't like pumpkin desserts, she thought the green sapote shake was okay.  The Mamey shake had a sweet potato/ pumpkin flavor.  The green sapote milkshake was good, milk goes really well with the fruit and the shake was really thick and creamy.  I froze some thinking it would be really good as an ice cream, but the flavor is really subdued frozen.  I'll try adding more fruit and spices next time. 

I didn't mention it earlier, but the texture of the green sapote is like an avocado.

Janet

i'll also throw in to the hat cutete shakes. those are delicious.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey and Green Sapote review
« on: March 24, 2023, 05:13:34 PM »
black sapote blended with kona coffee ice cream is quite good. just had to say that.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds
« on: March 24, 2023, 03:57:39 PM »
added
Garcinia xanthochymus seeds

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting Plinia?
« on: March 23, 2023, 07:44:29 PM »

Plinia sp. Honey Drop (forgot the brazilian translation for it). This is the one that there's this huge plantation of them devoted to making jabo wine.  Not sabara, but this Honey Drop.  I have a couple but not fruited, but if someone dropped the $$$$$ for a farm to do wine with one variety, I'd pay attention. 

you must be talking about "fazenda jabuticabal" the one you say is "pingo de mel" and they started to plant the first trees in 1947 and the winery started in 1999
https://www.vinicolajabuticabal.com.br/historia/

that's the one!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting Plinia?
« on: March 23, 2023, 04:01:52 PM »
plus...

best tasting is subjective.  I agree a good sabara or grimal are excellent.  but aureanas are very tasty. very sweet.  I haven't tried yet, but the branca mel aureana is supposedly 'the best.'

If you look at the last several years, the sheer number of varieties of jaboticabas introduced into the state/europe (partially induced by the pandemic) is mind boggling. at one point i had 70 varieties.  But I gave up.  Pared it down to a fraction of it. I know people (we know who these are) and they're probably well past 100+ just for plinia.  Some of the collectors just seeing what holed up americans were doing with their money instead of binge watching on netflix started to go out and collect all these Plinia sp. and just add the name of the locale.  So many of the varieties come out with their sp. name and when pressing for more details as to what makes it unique, you dont' get much of a response.  It's from Bahia....so what else?  Crickets. 

Plus on top of it, unless you're one of the few that have been able to import grafted trees all these seed grown plinias may have some variance from their parents.  Maybe for the better or for the worse.  Who knows.  In any case, so much info to digest but soooo many what ifs and ?????

End of rant, I will step off the soap box now. 

If I were to grab jabos for unique characteristics and/or taste, these are the ones and why...this is just my opinion.  So I'm sure there are many other opinions.

Sabara-industry standard multiple crops in a year
Red/Escalarte-fast growers Good flavor.  Red grows like an unorganized bush, escalarte more upright.  For that I prefer escalarte.
Grimal-EXCELLENT taste. Not a fast grower.
Phithanthas-fast growers overall.  However, beware, they seem to be the most prolific species in terms of popping out all these varieties. Look at China/Taiwan.   I'd say Sanford is one that tasted good and fruited fast for me.
Plinia sp. Honey Drop (forgot the brazilian translation for it). This is the one that there's this huge plantation of them devoted to making jabo wine.  Not sabara, but this Honey Drop.  I have a couple but not fruited, but if someone dropped the $$$$$ for a farm to do wine with one variety, I'd pay attention. 
Paulista/Olho de boi-take forever to fruit, but get BIG Fruits.
Aureana-Branca Mel-as mentioned before supposedly best white jabo
Spirito santensis-I heard it's a excellent fruit, but I always loved the color flush of new growth on this one.  This one when you grow it out, you'd eat your breakfast bagel and drink your coffee outside just so you can stare at it and enjoy it. 
Plinia sp. Rondonia-i had this one but I think i killed it.  This one is sweet when it's even still green. 
Coronata Restinga-fast growing for a coronata. Good sized fruit. 
Cambuca
Plinia clausa

Beyond that, there are more I'm sure people want to collect for different aspects but can't vouch for taste yet unless you go Brazil for yourself. 

Anyway, if you're looking for plants, I'd contact John Travis Morton as he regularly sells most of these listed. If you're in Florida and close by enough I'm sure you can  make an arrangement to buy direct and he'll give you a fair deal if you buy a nice chunk. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting Plinia?
« on: March 23, 2023, 03:47:03 PM »
aw vexator sucks? damn. I love watching the leaves come in and it branched super early on, at least it's fun to look at  ;D

vexator is actually not bad.  it's hard to pick it at the right time.  too early and you'll regret it.  but i do love a nicely ripened one.  As others have said, it's a beautiful tree. 

Cambuca is probably the easiest one to find in the states now that is actually fruiting or find grafted trees.  With the other species coming out of late, but it would've been classified as the largest fruit (shawi's crush it now in terms of size).  I do enjoy eating cambuca as it has each fruit despite the larger seed has a good amount of pulp.  Also, if you skin the rind you can do things like jam, rollups etc.

the yellow jaboticaba (different genus) tastes wonderful. That would be my favorite except for its very poor flesh ratio.  However, if you have a chance to get the hairy cross variety, it does produce bigger fruits.  I believe John Morton made a video somewhere about that and it does look markedly bigger than the typical yellow jaboticaba you see around town. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Plants for sale
« on: March 21, 2023, 08:35:43 PM »
Wow. Lance is THE man with some of the RAREST fruit trees!!

not even close.  there are way more guys out there with WAY more than me. ha.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Seeds
« on: March 21, 2023, 08:22:20 PM »
Durian seeds (Monthong) pending resupply
$4 per seed
5-9 seeds  $3.50
10 or more $3

Chanee $5 -pending resupply

Ross Sapote -pending resupply
$3 per seed
5 to 9 $2.50 per seed
10 or more $2 per seed

Salak -pending resupply
$5 per seed
5-9 $4 per seed
10 or more $3 per seed

Garcinia xanthochymus
$2 per seed
5-9 seeds $1.50
More than 10 seeds $1 per seed.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Plants for sale
« on: March 21, 2023, 04:41:11 PM »
Will plan to send this out Next Monday. 

Listing the quantities and the price.  Will also try to give size:


 Various Kasturi (unde 1' $12, 18-24", $25)
1 Calycina $40.  Technically 12" originally used this as a roostock for grafting multile CORG/Calycina varieties, but failed.  Base is 1/2"
10 Eugenia floribunda $5 (4")
1 Wax jambu $10 (1')
2 White jabo $12 (10")
1 Eugenia victoriana Sundrop $15 (10-12")
1 imbe $15 (9-10")
2 Bangkok Santol $10 (1')
10 Maprang $12 (8-10")
2 Bali Salak $15 (1')
1 Eugenia latifolia $50 (6")
4 selecto acacha $15
3 cambuca $15


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Russell's Sweet Garcinia
« on: March 21, 2023, 02:27:12 PM »
It's probably easier to get a Dulcis to pollinate your Russell's.

funny you mention that.  Russell's may be a variety of dioecious dulcis.  Who knows unless someone pay for the genetic testing.  But the backstory is really interesting.  Makes you want to go true fruit hunting.  But probably the original trees are gone as they probably got dug up to build a highway or a condo or some sad ending like that. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Russell's Sweet Garcinia
« on: March 20, 2023, 10:08:11 PM »
I think I'm gonna call it done after a Russell or two for the Garcinias.

honestly you should be 3-4 russells at minimum since they're dioecious. Unless you can get someone to sell you make female scions.
Lance,
do you know of anyone with a fruiting tree in HI? Or confirmed male or female?

no one.  joe probably the closest. maybe oscar.  the only way to get to the punch is to go grab some yourself.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Russell's Sweet Garcinia
« on: March 20, 2023, 09:13:11 PM »
I think I'm gonna call it done after a Russell or two for the Garcinias.

honestly you should be 3-4 russells at minimum since they're dioecious. Unless you can get someone to sell you make female scions. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Russell's Sweet Garcinia
« on: March 20, 2023, 08:38:59 PM »
Two Luc's seedlings, two Superior Lemon Drop (one grafted, one seedling), and a Lindero.

i mean what are you looking for?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Russell's Sweet Garcinia
« on: March 20, 2023, 08:21:32 PM »
Wow, that's very discouraging...I have just gotten into the Garcinia scene. They are very lovely trees...maybe just grow them as ornaments until they can dish out the goods.

what's on your garcinia list?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO: gummy worm fruit (Oahu/Hl)
« on: March 17, 2023, 06:19:29 PM »
Try Franks Nursery only one I know on Oahu.

never seen that offered there.

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SOLD for now, but will try to get more soon.

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Russell's Sweet Garcinia Seeds:
$10 per seed (1-4 seeds)
$8 per seed (5-9 seeds)
$7 per seed (10 or more seeds)
Plus Shipping Can determine either First Class or Priority.

Durian seeds (from a seedling tree)  $4 per seed
Plus shipping

Germinated cupuassu seeds $6 per seed
Plus shipping

I realize that there is some cold weather conditions around the country.  I can hold them until you feel it would be a safe time to send.


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hello,

Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping. this means inclusive of shipping?. what about capuaccu

shipping is only for US.  International would cost more.  I will be on vacation till March.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / SOLD
« on: February 23, 2023, 05:14:07 PM »
Sold

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Amazon Tree Grape (Pouroma cecropiifolia)
5 for $25 shipping included
5 for $20 shipping included

Governors plum
10 for $10 shipping included


Grains of paradise 10 for $10 includes postage

Dwarf ašai
5 for $16 Or 10 for $21
5 for $13 or 10 for $18 includes postage

Broad Leaf Papaya
5 for $10 or 10 for $15 includes shipping

Rollinia
5 for $10 or 10 for $12 shipping included.

Langsat germinated seeds
$3 per seed plus shipping

Talisia esculenta
$4 per seed
Buy 5 or more $3.50 per seed
Buy 10 or more $3 per seed

Campomanesia schlectendaliana seeds $3 per seed plus shipping

Cupuassu
$5 per seed plus shipping.

Germinated cutete pouteria macrophylla
$6 each plus shipping


Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping.

Passiflora maliformis
5 seeds $15
10 seeds $12

Durian
$5 per seed plus shipping

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Governors plum
10 for $10 shipping included


Grains of paradise 10 for $10 includes postage

Dwarf ašai
5 for $16 Or 10 for $21
5 for $13 or 10 for $18 includes postage

Broad Leaf Papaya
5 for $10 or 10 for $15 includes shipping

Rollinia
5 for $10 or 10 for $12 shipping included.

Langsat germinated seeds
$3 per seed plus shipping

Talisia esculenta
$4 per seed
Buy 5 or more $3.50 per seed
Buy 10 or more $3 per seed

Campomanesia schlectendaliana seeds $3 per seed plus shipping

Cupuassu
$5 per seed plus shipping.

Germinated cutete pouteria macrophylla
$6 each plus shipping


Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping.

Passiflora maliformis
5 seeds $15
10 seeds $12

Durian
$5 per seed plus shipping
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E4 Abiu
$5 per seed.
$4 per seed if 5 or more
$3.50 per seed if 10 or more
Plus shipping

Plinia grandifolia.  Lots are germinating.
$6 per seed
$5 per seed if you buy 5 or more
$4 per seed if you buy 10 or more.
Plus shipping.

Governors plum
10 for $10 shipping included


Dwarf ašai
5 for $16 Or 10 for $21
5 for $13 or 10 for $18 includes postage

Broad Leaf Papaya
5 for $10 or 10 for $15 includes shipping

Rollinia
5 for $10 or 10 for $12 shipping included.

Langsat germinated seeds
$3 per seed plus shipping

Talisia esculenta
$4 per seed
Buy 5 or more $3.50 per seed
Buy 10 or more $3 per seed

Campomanesia schlectendaliana seeds $3 per seed plus shipping

Cupuassu
$5 per seed plus shipping.

Germinated cutete pouteria macrophylla
$6 each plus shipping


Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping.

Passiflora maliformis
5 seeds $15
10 seeds $12

Durian
$5 per seed plus shipping
[/quote]

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Governors plum
10 for $10 shipping included

Dwarf ašai
5 for $16 Or 10 for $21
5 for $13 or 10 for $18 includes postage

Broad Leaf Papaya
5 for $10 or 10 for $15 includes shipping

Rollinia
5 for $10 or 10 for $12 shipping included.

Langsat germinated seeds
$3 per seed plus shipping

Campomanesia schlectendaliana seeds $3 per seed plus shipping

Cupuassu
$5 per seed plus shipping.


Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping.

Passiflora maliformis
5 seeds $15
10 seeds $12

Durian
$5 per seed plus shipping

Garcinia acuminata (madruno)
$2 per seed+ shipping
5 seeds $14 (shipping included)
10 seeds $20 (includes shipping
[/quote]

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Governors plum
10 for $10 shipping included

Dwarf ašai
5 for $16 Or 10 for $21
5 for $13 or 10 for $18 includes postage

Broad Leaf Papaya
5 for $10 or 10 for $15 includes shipping

Rollinia
5 for $10 or 10 for $12 shipping included.

Langsat germinated seeds
$3 per seed plus shipping

Campomanesia schlectendaliana seeds $3 per seed plus shipping

Cupuassu
$5 per seed plus shipping.

Whitman fiberles soursop seeds
10 seeds for $17 shipping.

Passiflora maliformis
5 seeds $15
10 seeds $12

Durian
$5 per seed plus shipping

Garcinia acuminata (madruno)
$2 per seed+ shipping
5 seeds $14 (shipping included)
10 seeds $20 (includes shipping
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More talisia esculenta added. 

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