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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Russian Cherry Hybrids
« on: January 21, 2026, 08:52:08 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with cerapadus or padocerus cherry hybrids?
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I've been growing loroco for a few years and I really enjoy the unopened flowers. It is a perennial vining plant that does well in partial sun for me. I also grow/enjoy banana peppers that ripen (red) as it develops a rich flavor. Also, the plants do not seem prone to diseases.
I have grown Bele (variegated) and it grew tall and had to be constantly pruned for a
few uears and then it rotted. I didn`t replant as I never used the leaves.
Thanks for the information on using cranberry hibiscus as once you have one you will always have some
Galatians, one more thing to consider in your lesson, whatever the dew point is the reason the temps bottom out at that temp is because of the dew wet or frozen(frost), it´s forming on surfaces pointing sky is simultaneously releasing heat which causes temps from dropping below the dew point. This is why irrigation is commonly used on convection freezes. Even at the freezing point humidity in our case, the water applied releases heat back into plant. Water applied to foliage looses about 40 kj of heat for every mol, 18ml in the cases of water then if it freezes on the plant another 6.01 kj/mol keeping the temps just above many tropical own freezing point. Sorry for doing chem teacher thing but you seem to be deepening your understanding..we use to call them teachable moments.
Heat is a little tricky to understand because many people never get past temperature. But understand how heat moves helps us as growers to make good choices on ways to protect our trees and plants.
I just did, you saw my invoice above. I have purchased over 200 varieties from them during my 30yrs of collecting citrus varieties.
Sam, yes, citrus is easy to graft, from one budwood stick I can get at least 2 scions for grafting so I have never had a problem with the particular variety I ordered to fail.
I just a fun hobby, some people go to Las Vegas and blow $300 in a weekend, I spend the same amount on my citrus budwood from time to time.
Two weeks later, it appears that most of the black has disappeared. We’ve been in a two week Santa Ana or it’s been very dry and warm and it looks like another week or so to go. Thanks for all the advice.
Galatians, maybe it was an advective freeze event and the wind modified the air passing over swampy ground warmed the trees nearby too.
If you like Yod Fah, Purple Hon Tsai Tai is also one of my favorites and it has beautiful purple stems.
My favorite mustard green is Ho-Mi-Z, mature leaves are beautiful with dark purple and green and it's the best tasting that I have tried. It's spicy but also has a sweet aftertaste. One year when I was cutting back the large flowering stalks, I noticed the inside of the stalk looked tender so peeled the outer layer and found it to be one of the best tasting vegetables for stir fry and also good raw.
Best tasting collard green is an heirloom variety from North Carolina named Yellow Cabbage Collard. Cascade Glaze collard is a unique collard green with shiny waxy coating.
My top heat tolerant lettuces: Italienischer, Cougar Batavian, and 2 Frank Morten varieties, Jester and Icy Oak.
With all my lettuce trials I found that I prefer growing open head lettuces that I can harvest from over a long season. Some of the heading lettuce tasted good but it was hard to control slugs hiding inside and all that time to harvest one head wasn't worth it for me in my small home garden. With the open head lettuce varieties, instead of just harvesting the outer leaves for salad, I harvest from the young center leaves. As the plant matures the center leaves continue to have crisp texture and good taste even when the leaves are small and the larger outer leaves keep feeding the plant. I also found when the lettuce starts to go to seed they will grow several feet tall and the leaves can still be harvested as good cooking greens. They are excellent green for soups and stews. A can harvest for several months from a single lettuce plant.
Sea kale, Crambe maritima, make gourmet greens easier than belgian endive. This is effortless to grow. I grow them in pots, they go dormant in winter. Before spring growth I cover the top of the pot with a black fabric pot to exclude light. The new growth is tender white with beautiful pinkish purple leaves. Makes a fine dining restaurant quality salad. The leaves during the regular season that get sunlight can be used as a cooking green.
I also have greens that are my own breeding selections that I've worked on for around 15 years from crosses of my favorite brassicas.
Janet
I have so much to share on this thread!
I feel like I’ve trialed all the edible greens and most annual vegetables offered by Baker Creek, Kitazawa, Seed Savers exchange and many other regional catalogs and independent specialty growers. I trialed all the root crops offered by Cultivariable before he stopped selling most of his offerings and most vegetables bred by Dr. Alan Kapuler (Peace Seeds). Sand Hill Preservation Center is also a great source of heirloom seeds, root crops, and heritage poultry breeds.
I finally have narrowed down my garlic to 2 varieties after trialing over 50, including specialty varieties from all over the world, in the last decade. I needed a variety that could produce in my cool coastal climate over a short season and have good keeping qualities.
I have many of my own breeding projects and selections as well. I lost my phone and a lot of photos, need to go back and see which ones were saved on my computer.
Galatians522, Gai Lan is one of my favorites and I consider Bele to be one of the best perennial greens. I removed longevity spinach because I didn’t eat it after I started growing Bele. Peace Seedlings (Dr Alan Alan Kapuler’s daughter’s seed company) is a great source for peas in many colors, some hypertendril. They’ve done a lot of breeding and selection for edible podded peas.
Bele in my garden, one has burgundy new leaves and beautiful variegation, it gets some grasshopper damage. The other has dark green mature leaves with beautiful red stems.
Janet