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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 23, 2023, 11:01:40 PM »
Biqi seedling. Fruited last year. Carlsbad, CA. 4 miles from the coast. This is from the part of the tree that has flowered last couple years. 2-3 times a year. Looks like flower buds to me.



Putative male branch grafted a few months ago:



Hopefully 2024 flowers show it to be a male! The mother plant of those grafts is the fastest grower out of all my yangmei and came as a male so Im betting it is!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 18, 2023, 12:31:29 AM »
I get about 90% take’s depending on the season.

Simon

Wow! Any lessons learned? I've come to appreciate the value of fresh scions but other than that not sure what drives uo the success rate...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: September 16, 2023, 12:55:39 AM »
Looks good Simon. What % take did you have grafting yangmei? Im about %25.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Dwarf Namwah trees - free
« on: September 04, 2023, 02:31:11 PM »
Bananas are technically plants, not trees. Trees make bark

Well if were getting technical, here you go: Dwarf Namweh Herbs - free ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Dwarf Namwah trees - free
« on: September 04, 2023, 01:29:42 AM »
They're in 3-5 gallon pots. 8-12' tall, need to go in the ground. You'll need to pick them up. I have about 6 available. In Fallbrook, CA. PM me for details.


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Anyone has pictures of avocado trees that grow way beyond what one is used to seeing?

Were talking Zone 8a or even slightly further?

Do you mean latitude or zone-wise? The London ones probably win in terms of latitude, but that's zone 9b or nearly 10a, and in a brick courtyard.

The trees near Brissago, Switzerland are in a slightly colder spot, more like 8b, but in a very protected microclimate next to a large lake.

And even the big Duke tree in Oroville, CA is worth mentioning, though that's in 9b near the 9a edge, and much further south, but the tree is enormous and highly productive there.

Assuming you mean mature, fruiting trees, those are the ones that come to mind.

My own trees are still very small, but latitude-wise, Seattle is pretty far up there. It's 8b here, though really more 9a in recent years. I'll let you know if any of mine make it to fruiting here outside.

I'm also aware of some trees planted outside on Vancouver Island, B.C., which might win latitude-wise, but none that are fruiting to my knowledge. That's zone 9a, though.

You mentioning the Oroville Avocado tree reminded me of a huge and productive tree that was in Paradise, CA. Close to Oroville but colder winters due to elevation. Im sure the fire took it out but it was at least 30' tall.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Keitt mango budwood - scions -ISO
« on: August 12, 2023, 11:16:05 AM »
Looking for budwood to top work a large tree I have. Im in San Diego County, CA. Please let me know if you have or know where to find.

Thanks, Kevin N.

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Tipped when young


Tipped when young


Not tipped

Looking good. Is the idea that those branches growing vertically above the trellis on the DF that are tipped when young will eventually grow heavy and hang down?

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I like tipping them about 4-6" above the trellis, they'll branch out and turn into a beautiful plant. If you leave them be, the tallest arm will fall over, and then it'll branch out, but it'll be clustered around the arm that went over first. I should get some photos, I have great examples of each strategy and will get photos.

That makes sense! Would be great to see!

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Love the consistency with the answers! My posts are made of concrete, so Im in this for the long game. Id rather slow growth and have a well performing DF.

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Ive been struggling with this question. Saw it posted on a dragon fruit facebook page but the responses were far from conclusive. Curious if theres any experienced DF growers here that have an opinion on this?

TIA
Kevin N.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: August 03, 2023, 10:39:28 AM »
Has anybody tried removing the endocarp per Ronnie Demler's methods and not soaked in GA3?  I'm thinking of trying to remove the endocarp to speed up germination but not sure if the GA3 will be a requirement to break dormancy?

Ive removed the endocarp and used GA3. I've also removed it and not used GA3. In both cases mold was an issue...and I soaked them in a light bleach solution. Theres a good guide posted somewhere on this form on how to do it. I suspect my germination location was too warm...maybe.

I've had way better success just planting the seeds, endocarp and all, and letting them go through winter outside and sprout in late spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 31, 2023, 03:17:46 PM »
I have killed more trees than I saved fertilizing...so I have been very sparing with 2 x year osmocote slow release. Additionally, I took out some avocado trees that have been in place over 20 years (with built up mulch to make room for the mangoes so Im fairly certain they are getting some nutrients still in the soil.
For a couple years I used Osmocote and compost, but my mangoes barely grew. When I started increasing fertilizer applications, especially nitrogen, they immediately responded with larger, more frequent growth flushes.
My soil is well drained silty loam, so soluble nutrients pass through, with heavier soil Osmocote will be more effective.

Thanks Oolie, What is your mango fertilizer of choice in San Diego? What is your fertilizing schedule?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 31, 2023, 10:40:37 AM »
Its not necessarily "more" water.  Its a bit of water consistently so the field stays a certain mositure level.  With well drain DG soil, the moisture level or "field capacity" is not as high as for more clay soil.  With well draining soil it is kind of hard to over water.  The moisture level is always below 30%

If you you want to see what the moisture level in your field is you can buy a irrometer.  They cost about 100$ and you can put 1 or 2 out in the orchard and key your spinklers off one tree with an irrometer.

Been reading up on these since you mentioned them. I knew they existed but not much about how they work. This type seems to have good reviews except for very wet soils and seems more maintenance free then the distilled water vacuum type. I bought 10 to put in different depths and locations, seems like this should take some of the guessing out of quantity and frequency of watering. If they work like I hope they do I may use them in my avocado grove as well.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 29, 2023, 12:37:22 AM »
Have u fertilized lately? If so, what kind of fertilizer?

I have killed more trees than I saved fertilizing...so I have been very sparing with 2 x year osmocote slow release. Additionally, I took out some avocado trees that have been in place over 20 years (with built up mulch to make room for the mangoes so Im fairly certain they are getting some nutrients still in the soil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 29, 2023, 12:34:07 AM »
I have sand loam in most of my property although there is an area that gets into clay after about 1'. I suspect the watering from the avocados is soaking further into the field underground than I previously thought. In the pictures some of these soils samples are 20' away from being hit even by an occasional drop from the avocado irrigation, some are 10' away from the perimeter of the avocado sprinklers reach. The soil samples in the pictures were taken today and the last watering was about 15 days ago. Mostly dry the first few inches and then progressively damp-moist, able to form a clump at 12" in all samples taken.

I have the following varieties of mangoes with various rootstock (manilla, turpentine, and Coriente). The 2 unknown varieties are estimated to be about 12 years old and 6 years old, the rest were planted by me in the last 2.5 years as about 3 year old trees. The picture of the mango tree in this post is the smallest (so arguably should be the most stressed from lack of water):

Kesar
Chok Anan
Keitt
Valencia pride
Lemon zest
peach cobbler
sugar loaf
fruit punch
Sweet tart
Angie
orange sherbert
M-4
Cac
Kathy
NDM
Diamond (Sein Ta Lone)
Haden
Pickering
florigon
Glenn
2 unknown












wow. Amazing list. That is more than a back yard quantity. You have most of varieties I'd like to have. You are missing Maha.

I have two Mahachanoks, just accidentally left them off the list!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 28, 2023, 02:06:02 PM »
I have sand loam in most of my property although there is an area that gets into clay after about 1'. I suspect the watering from the avocados is soaking further into the field underground than I previously thought. In the pictures some of these soils samples are 20' away from being hit even by an occasional drop from the avocado irrigation, some are 10' away from the perimeter of the avocado sprinklers reach. The soil samples in the pictures were taken today and the last watering was about 15 days ago. Mostly dry the first few inches and then progressively damp-moist, able to form a clump at 12" in all samples taken.

I have the following varieties of mangoes with various rootstock (manilla, turpentine, and Coriente). The 2 unknown varieties are estimated to be about 12 years old and 6 years old, the rest were planted by me in the last 2.5 years as about 3 year old trees. The picture of the mango tree in this post is the smallest (so arguably should be the most stressed from lack of water):

Kesar
Chok Anan
Keitt
Valencia pride
Lemon zest
peach cobbler
sugar loaf
fruit punch
Sweet tart
Angie
orange sherbert
M-4
Cac
Kathy
NDM
Diamond (Sein Ta Lone)
Haden
Pickering
florigon
Glenn
2 unknown












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 28, 2023, 01:46:34 AM »
Thats interesting, more than I thought. They dont seem to be stressed from not enough water, I suspect they are somehow getting water from the avocado grove they border. Thanks for the guidance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Watering mango trees in California
« on: July 27, 2023, 10:49:53 PM »
I've read some posts on this but none of them address my specific circumstances. I have a bunch of mango trees planted the last 2 years that range from 1.5" diameter to 2.5 diameter trunks and 4'-8' tall. Im in Fallbrook with well draining sandy loam and trees are planted in the ground in full sun. I fear I lost a couple trees from overwatering earlier this year trying to augment the heavy rains we got this spring when really I just didn't need to water. Now I'm worried about killing more from overwatering even though its hot (90's) lately. When I take a soil core sample the soil is damp enough to almost hold together at 8"-12" deep, first 2-3" are mostly dry. My last water was about 12 days ago and I tend to water heavy and deep when I water.

So the big question is-in the summer heat of San Diego at what frequency should I water these mango trees? Would love to hear from fellow Californians that have been there, done that!

Thanks in advance!

Kevin N.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 23, 2023, 09:43:29 PM »
Not sure I can tell yet. All my grafts on M. Pensylvanica were done this spring. I believe Marta Matvienko has fruited her yangmei on M. Pensylvanica and her trees grow well in Davis, CA. so that was my motivation for getting this root stock.  The only conclusion I've come to regarding grafting yangmei is I have had better luck with smaller diameter grafting (at least for cleft/V grafts) as opposed to 1/4" or larger diameter...and by better luck like %25 success rate, so not that great.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 23, 2023, 11:01:51 AM »
Seedling is quite old. From rtreid i believe germinated around the same time as the first yangmei group order. I put it in the ground feb 2016. The first fruit was nice, not as good as biqi itself but might get better. Was leaving others on but found two dropped or knocked off today. Fruit was a bit worse. No zing. Just picked the last and its lemony right off the tree. I think ill be happy with it. Kevin N also grafted two male branches on this year so crossing fingers for next year!

Interesting on the taste profile Shane! The fruits are definitely nice sized. This tree is huge and healthy, as soon as the male grafts take I think you'll have a ton of fruit from this tree alone.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 23, 2023, 10:51:35 AM »
Thanks.


Where do you obtain the rootstock?  I'm in san diego.

Seng-Im in San Diego County and have a lot of rootstock. Mostly M Pensylvanica but also M. Cerifera and M. Californica...probably over 100 1-3 gallons if your interested PM me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Fig Fly Protection
« on: July 23, 2023, 10:26:42 AM »
I have about 25 different varieties of figs planted out from cuttings, theyre about 2 years old and fruiting. Just noticed the kadota crop was knocked out by fig fly. Wondering if there are any varieties that are more resistant? I dont love the idea of bagging each fig, I may bag the whole tree and keep them small though (thanks for the link).

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I tried these exact yangmei, and although they don't necessarily grow true to seed, starting out with a really good tasting fruit likely increases your odds of getting high end fruit producing plants...and these are REALLY good tasting fruit!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Venus Mango Budwood Scions
« on: July 09, 2023, 06:54:23 PM »
Hello mango growers! I am looking for Venus Mango budwood/scions to top work a small tree of mine. Happy to pay if you have this variety and are willing to send to me in CA.

TIA

Kevin N.

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