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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mulberry just dropped leaves
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:48:04 AM »
Love seeing big mulberry leaves like that.

Meanwhile mine just pushed out tiny leaves and even a flower right through the cold snap. Confused!


I was wondering if yours would leaf out again before winter.  Iím glad it survived.  Iíve water stressed mine when it was still in the pot (not on purpose) and had it drop most of itís leaves only to leaf out again and produce an off season crop.  They are pretty resilient so Iíve been wondering if you can do that on purpose to get a second crop every year.  Probably not the best thing for the tree though.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Nazemetz pineapple guava
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:29:43 AM »
We have a Stella as well but it has been somewhat inconsistent.  I suspect we will get more fruit with more chill.  Itís still in a 15 gal so I will try putting it in the walk-in this winter and see if it has a good bloom.  I havenít gotten any of the Royals, but I know someone growing them and hope to graft them onto the Stella in the spring.  Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:00:51 AM »
Phoenix Red, Voodoo Child, Giant Viet

I like the totem pole!  Is that to scare away the fruit eating varmints?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 17, 2013, 06:57:18 AM »
What about using pots?

What I meant was, another option for planting Dragon Fruit next to the canal is to grow them in pots.

I see, sorry.  A raised bed would work too if it is too wet.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 17, 2013, 12:21:05 AM »
I water my potted DF every day in the summer.  We don't get any summer rains here.  Winter time maybe twice a week if it hasn't rained.  They respond well to a lot of fertilizer too.

They like way more water than most people realize. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Nazemetz pineapple guava
« on: December 17, 2013, 12:12:49 AM »
Interesting idea.  We have a walk-in refrigerator and even though we get enough chill for many fruit Iíve considered using it for giving cherries enough chill hours to fruit.  Of course we have the walk-in for other reasons so there would be no added expense. 

Chill hours are calculated by the number of hours between 32 and 45 degrees F, so your chill house would have to get close to 45 although maybe pineapple guava wouldnít need it quite that cold.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 17, 2013, 12:00:15 AM »
They love water.  They are a cactus, but keep in mind they are an under-story plant from a rainforest environment.  They can survive long periods of drought but they do best with daily watering in most sub-tropical areas.  Also they have a very shallow fibrous roots system, so unless it is constantly muddy along the canal Iíd expect them to do fine.  Over watering can cause the green part of the stem to rot but the core survives and I have never seen it kill a plant here in California.  If you have poor draining soil you may want to watch the watering more closely, but in well drained soil they enjoy frequent waterings.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watering Jaboticaba with aspirin ?
« on: December 16, 2013, 11:49:16 PM »
Hi Luc,

I haven't tried it myself but I did a little looking.  I didnít look for anything specific to jaboticaba but just the effect of aspirin on plants.

This books talks about it as now being considered a plant hormone:

This article says it increases cold resistance in corn seedlings but also retards growth:;jsessionid=5DC332FA1DBF2DDE8F456B976BF44FA2

Many others say aspirin infers resistance to pests and disease.

It looks like aspirin may make plants better able to handle stresses and therefore allows the plant to grow faster.  I assume this faster growth may lead to a larger tree and faster fruiting in jaboticaba, but I might be jumping to conclusions.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 15, 2013, 08:30:29 AM »
Yesterday, I ate the red fleshed pitahaya for the first time, I got the fruit from Indonesia, but I have to say, that it was the same experience like with the white fleshed one, both taste to me more like vegetable than fruit, something like radish, really  not worth to grow as a fruit. But may be it is because of me, who grow up in Middle Europe,  eating  tens of different varieties of plum, apple, apricot, peaches, pear  etc.  :D

Thatís the problem with a lot of store bought fruit.  If you pick them when they look the best they donít have enough sugar to taste good, but if you let them get sweet enough they donít look good enough to sell.  Commercially there is a need for varieties that sweeten up while they still look good.


I saw a good amount of cherimoyas for the first time this week at the farmers market. 


Also, as you have noticed, some species will handle the change better than others.  Some will be very sensitive to any change.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: maui dragon fruit
« on: December 14, 2013, 06:57:12 AM »

I have a farm at 886ft on Maui, not too hot usually max summer around 83-5f and winters around 58-62f at coolest. Do you think fruit production will occur in this area that isnt real hot?


They should produce fine in 85 f summers.  They do fine here in California in many areas that don't even get that hot. 


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 10, 2013, 08:22:36 AM »
I'm very very ashamed...  :-[ :-[ :-[

Don't be ashamed....  I got my first Dragon Fruit cutting from a cactus vendor at a "flea market". 
He sold me a big cutting he said had white fruit and explained how to plant (root) the cutting.
6 months later I figured out that he had told me the wrong end to place in the potting soil!

Many of us have done this.  I've had upside-down cuttings actually send roots out the bottom (which is up in the air) and they will start growing down towards the soil.  When I take cuttings I always try to label them at the bottom of the cutting with a sharpie so I know which end is up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: December 10, 2013, 08:15:43 AM »
Hi nch,

Iíve never heard of them needing replanting.  I know of several plants that have been quite old that still flowered and fruited well.  As long as they are well watered and fertilized they usually produce copious amounts of new growth and flowers

George Emerich in Fallbrook had a plant that was about 20 feet tall and maybe 25 feet across that flowered and fruited well every year.  He had 250 fruit on it one year just from the flowers he could reach from the ground. 


Here is a picture of George I found on the internet standing next to his plant

Also the CRFG meetings are good for more than just scion wood.  You can talk to other growers in the area and see what will survive and maybe get some more ideas.

Hi Digpati,

I’m interested.  Does the Livistona jenkinsiana produce an edible fruit?  What is it like?  From this: it looks like it might be a little too cold here for this one (we get down to –3 C/27 F), what do you think?

I did a little looking into the others and I thought I would post some of what I found for anyone who might be interested

Lapsi (Choerospondias axillaris) is a large, deciduous, edible native fruit tree of the family Anacardiaceae. Native to Nepal hills (850–1900 m asl), the tree has also been reported
from India, China, Thailand, Japan and Vietnam. Nepal is unique for processing and use of Lapsi fruits. Fruits are rich in vitamin C content (SHAH, 1978), and are consumed fresh, pickled and processed for preparing a variety of sweet and sour, tasty food products locally called as Mada and
candy. The candy products are usually prepared from the mesocarp of ripe fruits and are popular among women, children, trekkers and tourists in Nepal.

Here is some info on the Pomsi an avocado relative grown between 4000 and 8000 foot elevations:

Phoebe cooperiana is another avocado relative but I can’t find much about it.

I’ll send you an e-mail.  Thank you.


My cherimoyas will do that when they get water stressed or too hot, also it could be sunburn.  Did you move them recently?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: December 06, 2013, 11:12:26 AM »
Sven they are slow sometimes don't give up. I had a few of my Rain Forest Plum seeds almost take 90 days to sprout!


Thanks Ed,

I'm not giving up, I'm happily awaiting their arrival.  Actually I think the first one sprouted in the last couple days.  It has a tiny shoot developing.  I haven't had them on heat mats or in a greenhouse so I wasn't expecting super fast germination, especially since the weather turned cool a couple weeks after I planted them.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atypical grafting techniques?
« on: December 04, 2013, 09:14:34 AM »
Hi Simon,

I have one of these:

I donít use it much but it works pretty well.  I find Iím faster with the knife and if my grafts take there is no reason to use the tool.  I get a little bit cleaner cut with the knife but the tool makes a notch kind of cut that locks the scion and the rootstock together so it is easy to tie up, no slipping of the scion.  I guess it would be good for a beginner but I think one would be better off practicing with a blade instead.

By the way the tool was a gift.  No way Iíd spend that much on one of these but Iím a cheap SOB.  ;)


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan on Carrotwood graft update
« on: December 04, 2013, 08:41:50 AM »

How's the graft looking?  Did it recover?

Round-up Ready humans?  That doesn't sound like a good idea.

Yes you still need a phyto even with a permit. I think you will have to go to the ag department or agent in whatever country you are in. I dont think you can bring anything in legally without a phyto.

This is for budwood or plants, not for seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: December 03, 2013, 01:55:24 PM »
Nice job huertasurbanas, it looks great. 

I'm still waiting for mine to pop up.  I moved one into a smaller pot at about 40 days and it had about an inch long root growing.

Most of the time it is easier just to send seeds back instead of carrying them through the airport.  If you are bringing plant material back without inspection just be careful, take from only healthy trees and don’t bring in plants that are grown extensively in your area such as citrus and avocado in Southern California, even seeds.  You could bring in a virus and wipe out an industry.  I used to have an import permit for any kind of plant material.  It really isn’t hard to obtain and do it legally if you plan ahead and take your time.


None of my comments were directed at anyone in the media in particular or at Mike Adams.  I wrote all that before I saw your posts.  Just thought I would mention that. 


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