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Re: Video, of the largest collection in the USA of Myrciaria/Plinia
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2015, 11:41:57 PM »
Really nice vid, Adam. Literally, I could spend a day looking at all your trees. I'm a go up each row and look at each tree type of person... please post more. :)

Oscar, put up some vids too, I'd love to see your orchard on video. :)

Yeah Adam definitely inspired me. I have a slideshow i've been working on a long time, Just need to come up with a grand finale. Don't have musician brother, so i used Led Zeppelin instead.  ;) Videos are kinda hard for me because i don't know how to edit them. Have to learn the software.
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2015, 12:08:35 PM »
Lol, sadly I'm probably the last person to give editing advice :) Whenever I need to mail a video for projects, I better make it one take or I'm screwed. I don't have the inclination to learn editing at this time.

Adam, you should think about giving us a tour of your grounds. Kind of curious what other plants you have. :)


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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2015, 12:48:22 PM »
thanks again to everyone for the kind words.

Lol, sadly I'm probably the last person to give editing advice :) Whenever I need to mail a video for projects, I better make it one take or I'm screwed. I don't have the inclination to learn editing at this time.

Adam, you should think about giving us a tour of your grounds. Kind of curious what other plants you have. :)

Tropicaliste,

I will definitely make a video of some of the other fruits this year...next will probably be Eugenias, then Annonas.....Atemoyas, sugar apples, custard apples, biriba, illama, and a few others....

I'm really lucky to have a few family members (my mom and brother) who helped me out...my brother is good with music, and filming/editing....my mom is the one who designed my logo.

I do notice some flaws with my new video, there is a green flashing glitch, that's barely noticeable, but after watching the video like 20 times, I can count at least 5-6 of these green flashes.  I will have to see if we can fix that.

to be honest, it's really difficult to find time to make videos, and keep up with the nursery.  If it wasn't for my brother, who is doing this for free, I would just have a few blurry iphone videos...so I'm really thankful.

also, it makes me feel good to have it captured on video, just to document all the varieties, to inspire people to start researching myrciaria/plinia, and collecting.  It seems like it was only 5 yrs ago...if you went shopping for jabuticaba, you'd only find Sabara, mislabeled as M. cauliflora, and if you were really lucky, maybe a yellow jaboticaba (sold as Plinia edulis, or M. glomerata), or even a "Large Leaf" jaboticaba (usually Grimal, or trunciflora).  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2015, 01:00:40 PM »
Nice Jaboticaba collection.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2015, 03:03:42 PM »
Hi Adam, i post your video here. Just you to know...  :) https://www.pimentas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=19238

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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2015, 03:17:15 PM »
wow, you have a nice setup there, Adam. Which one(s) have have the best flavor?
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2015, 03:25:23 PM »
Hi Adam, i post your video here. Just you to know...  :) https://www.pimentas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=19238

thanks LUIS!  Yes please!  spread the word!  jaboticabas will be more popular than grapes ( :P not likely)  I really appreciate you sharing this video with as many people as possible!!

wow, you have a nice setup there, Adam. Which one(s) have have the best flavor?

Cookiemon...

thanks kindly my friend!  I'd say the best one I've had so far is the Grimal...but there are some close contenders....and I wouldn't trade one for the other....(Grimal has some disadvantages as well...being less  productive than Red or Sabara...and being more sensitive to rust, which is only superficial, but still a nuisance.)

Red jabo is excellent as well....some people prefer it to Sabara...but Sabara is pretty much a 9.5/10, u can't beat the king of Jabo varieties.  (the white jabo is much like the red, but seems to be a bit smaller of a fruit, with even less tannin in the skin, and smaller seeds, with very silky pulp)

yellow (and similar species), blue, cambuca, and a few others are in a class of their own....I love them all.

speaking of which, Cambuca may be my favorite of all...I just remembered...

too many to pick a favorite...

I'm anxious to taste strigipes, and phitrantha...I have a special variety of phitrantha with small leaves that is supposed to be one of the tastiest!
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2015, 03:30:25 PM »
Hi Adam, i post your video here. Just you to know...  :) https://www.pimentas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=19238

thanks LUIS!  Yes please!  spread the word!  jaboticabas will be more popular than grapes ( :P not likely)  I really appreciate you sharing this video with as many people as possible!!

 
That's good to know you like it... yes i like to spread good info!  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2015, 09:47:48 PM »
aha OK. How is the production on the cambuca? Can they deal with the high ph soils here? Fruiting season(s)?

U haz any big (7 - 25gal) cambuca for sale? Or, would excaliber haz one?

I'm already planted to capacity and now ur gonna make me get a new tree :-).

I guess you really do collect the whole set :-). I had to look up what a pog was :-).

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thanks kindly my friend!  I'd say the best one I've had so far is the Grimal...but there are some close contenders....and I wouldn't trade one for the other....(Grimal has some disadvantages as well...being less  productive than Red or Sabara...and being more sensitive to rust, which is only superficial, but still a nuisance.)

Red jabo is excellent as well....some people prefer it to Sabara...but Sabara is pretty much a 9.5/10, u can't beat the king of Jabo varieties.  (the white jabo is much like the red, but seems to be a bit smaller of a fruit, with even less tannin in the skin, and smaller seeds, with very silky pulp)

yellow (and similar species), blue, cambuca, and a few others are in a class of their own....I love them all.

speaking of which, Cambuca may be my favorite of all...I just remembered...

too many to pick a favorite...

I'm anxious to taste strigipes, and phitrantha...I have a special variety of phitrantha with small leaves that is supposed to be one of the tastiest!
Jeff  :-)

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Re: Video, of the largest collection in the USA of Myrciaria/Plinia
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2015, 01:02:15 AM »
Cookie Monster,

I only have very small cambuca, not quite ready to sell...but they're supposedly an early bearing variety...taking 5-8 yrs, instead of 15 or more.

If all goes well I will have some ready by May for the manatee fruit tree sale.

Not sure if Excalibur has any, last time I checked they were out. 

(fruiting season seems to be summer/fall...but not sure...I have only caught a few trees fruiting...never in spring or winter....can deal with high pH soil, like at fruit and spice....but get ready to bust out the chelated Fe, and the tree might take forever to fruit...especially if it's the type already introduced into the USA, already sold by nurseries here.  It would probably be best to grow it in a pot until it's too large to upsize...15-25 gal? after about 4-5yrs....then plant it out!  it will be able to deal with adverse conditions much better when it's more mature)

aha OK. How is the production on the cambuca? Can they deal with the high ph soils here? Fruiting season(s)?

U haz any big (7 - 25gal) cambuca for sale? Or, would excaliber haz one?

I'm already planted to capacity and now ur gonna make me get a new tree :-).

I guess you really do collect the whole set :-). I had to look up what a pog was :-).

Cookiemon...

thanks kindly my friend!  I'd say the best one I've had so far is the Grimal...but there are some close contenders....and I wouldn't trade one for the other....(Grimal has some disadvantages as well...being less  productive than Red or Sabara...and being more sensitive to rust, which is only superficial, but still a nuisance.)

Red jabo is excellent as well....some people prefer it to Sabara...but Sabara is pretty much a 9.5/10, u can't beat the king of Jabo varieties.  (the white jabo is much like the red, but seems to be a bit smaller of a fruit, with even less tannin in the skin, and smaller seeds, with very silky pulp)

yellow (and similar species), blue, cambuca, and a few others are in a class of their own....I love them all.

speaking of which, Cambuca may be my favorite of all...I just remembered...

too many to pick a favorite...

I'm anxious to taste strigipes, and phitrantha...I have a special variety of phitrantha with small leaves that is supposed to be one of the tastiest!
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 01:16:18 AM »
Nice video and some beautiful trees!  The music is made so much more dramatic by the fact you are walking around your plants holding pruning shears. :o

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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2015, 02:32:29 AM »
we might make another version of the same video with a commentary....I can explain what's going on, and slow down some of the sequences.  Just need to find time to do it!
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2015, 03:32:46 AM »
That was pretty much plant porn if I ever saw!   Nice!

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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2015, 01:43:18 PM »
So COOL, congrats! my m. cauliflora paulista is the most easy to grow to me, being camu camu (dead) and sabara the most difficult ones and vexator, glazioviana, grimal in the middle... m. coronata seems to be easy too... and maybe the red hybrid could be easy to grow here with our water/soil/climate: but when I didnt knew they need a lot of shadow, I dried a lot of them, so I am sad to say I have just 3 of 15 red jabos that sprouted 2 years ago.

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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2015, 07:01:01 AM »
could you please post pics of the small leaved phitrantha and regular phitrantha leaves?
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2015, 08:58:37 AM »
we might make another version of the same video with a commentary....I can explain what's going on, and slow down some of the sequences.  Just need to find time to do it!

Really inspiring video!

Commentary on the plants with your experience and knowledge on them would be even more awesome!
These kind of vids are amazing you should ask for donations so that its worth your while to do more! Id happily contribute this is gold and dont think theres enough
videos showcasing diversity of many fruit genuses :D
I would love videographic species profiling, wildlife documentary style very entertaining 8)
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2015, 03:24:47 PM »
Like...Thanks! 

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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2015, 04:28:49 PM »
Daniel,

here u go:

small leaf (I forget the actual varietal name)



large leaf (once again I need to research the varietal name)





looks much like M. aureana, but leaves are slightly fuzzy!

these varieties are super rare....will still be a while before they are for sale to the public.


Stuart,

I really appreciate your encouragement and compliments!  Funny because I think you are a rare breed...not many people care about all these trees!

For some reason I am opposed to asking for monetary donations...it feel as if it would be unprincely of me.  :P

but....Honestly I could not have made the video (assembled this collection) without the donations of a few forum members, like Ed Self, Tomas Karlsson, and Charles Novak...they gave me rare plants that I had not even considered collecting...many of them being rare Myrciaria/Plinia species that were not listed in the Brazilian Fruits book!

I will try to make a commentary, but I can't promise it will be anytime soon...this time of year is like a war zone!  I can barely keep up!






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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2015, 04:33:26 PM »
kickstarter campaign.  Start small amount or something.  I'm sure you can create something that is princely enough to encourage the right 'investment' in those that would love to see this happen. TO be able to see these plants side by side and have knowledge of how to grow them in the US has a lot of value.


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« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2015, 04:42:44 PM »
kickstarter campaign.  Start small amount or something.  I'm sure you can create something that is princely enough to encourage the right 'investment' in those that would love to see this happen. TO be able to see these plants side by side and have knowledge of how to grow them in the US has a lot of value.

thanks very much for your suggestion!

but I am morally opposed to taking any loans.

IMO using kickstarter, is like asking for a loan.
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« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2015, 05:06:08 PM »
kickstarter campaign.  Start small amount or something.  I'm sure you can create something that is princely enough to encourage the right 'investment' in those that would love to see this happen. TO be able to see these plants side by side and have knowledge of how to grow them in the US has a lot of value.

thanks very much for your suggestion!

but I am morally opposed to taking any loans.

IMO using kickstarter, is like asking for a loan.

but if you notice a lot of the kick starter campaigns, the bottom tier contributions are like $1-5 bucks and all you get is like a 'Thank you email" or "High Five" for film credits. For the bigger money, it's like $50, gets you a shipped tree or something.  So in some ways, it's like not like a loan, but definitely there is a lot of information that would be great to have out there.

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« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2015, 05:18:43 PM »
yes you are totally correct...

but I still morally oppose using kickstarter....they get money out of the whole deal (I don't want their hand in my business)

also, one thing I can never do, is take prepayment for products....in my opinion, it's one of the stupidest things you can do as a nurseryman.  It will always be more trouble than it's worth...and can lead to big trouble....(it's just like taking a loan).

other than that...I don't want to receive anything for free...it's just not my style...even if it's a 5 dollar donation from a kind hearted person, who wishes to further my cause...I'd rather them just buy some seeds from me via my website (or this forum)...that is the biggest form of support I get...and this forum has been like kickstarter x 10 !
kickstarter campaign.  Start small amount or something.  I'm sure you can create something that is princely enough to encourage the right 'investment' in those that would love to see this happen. TO be able to see these plants side by side and have knowledge of how to grow them in the US has a lot of value.

thanks very much for your suggestion!

but I am morally opposed to taking any loans.

IMO using kickstarter, is like asking for a loan.

but if you notice a lot of the kick starter campaigns, the bottom tier contributions are like $1-5 bucks and all you get is like a 'Thank you email" or "High Five" for film credits. For the bigger money, it's like $50, gets you a shipped tree or something.  So in some ways, it's like not like a loan, but definitely there is a lot of information that would be great to have out there.
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« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2015, 06:32:17 PM »
Daniel,

here u go:

small leaf (I forget the actual varietal name)



large leaf (once again I need to research the varietal name)





looks much like M. aureana, but leaves are slightly fuzzy!

these varieties are super rare....will still be a while before they are for sale to the public.


Stuart,

I really appreciate your encouragement and compliments!  Funny because I think you are a rare breed...not many people care about all these trees!

For some reason I am opposed to asking for monetary donations...it feel as if it would be unprincely of me.  :P

but....Honestly I could not have made the video (assembled this collection) without the donations of a few forum members, like Ed Self, Tomas Karlsson, and Charles Novak...they gave me rare plants that I had not even considered collecting...many of them being rare Myrciaria/Plinia species that were not listed in the Brazilian Fruits book!

I will try to make a commentary, but I can't promise it will be anytime soon...this time of year is like a war zone!  I can barely keep up!
Fair enough on the donations then all I can offer is sincere appreciation albeit marred with abit of jealousy at your collection  ;)
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« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2015, 06:55:38 AM »
Daniel,

here u go:

small leaf (I forget the actual varietal name)



large leaf (once again I need to research the varietal name)





looks much like M. aureana, but leaves are slightly fuzzy!

these varieties are super rare....will still be a while before they are for sale to the public.


Thank you Adam,

So the leave size is the only difference or are there any other(like new growth..)?

 I have few seedlings, but they are still to small to see the real leave size. 
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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2015, 06:35:44 PM »
they are quite different in terms of leaf size, shape, and growth habit.

the one with large leaves has been one of the most fickle specimens I've ever nursed back to health

it has stayed 1/5th the size of the small leaved variety, and I got them both at the same time.

the small leaved variety is almost ready to fruit...maybe 1-2 more years.
Daniel,

here u go:

small leaf (I forget the actual varietal name)



large leaf (once again I need to research the varietal name)





looks much like M. aureana, but leaves are slightly fuzzy!

these varieties are super rare....will still be a while before they are for sale to the public.


Thank you Adam,

So the leave size is the only difference or are there any other(like new growth..)?

 I have few seedlings, but they are still to small to see the real leave size.
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