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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #450 on: February 24, 2023, 10:27:53 PM »
I recently noticed that several of my M cerifera trees started to bloom. Iím guessing these are male blooms and I wonder if cerifera pollen could cross pollinate M Rubra?




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I went out and looked at my female. I think you are correct. The female looks very similar, but the cluster of bloom looks like little tiny balls with a thread sticking out of each.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #451 on: February 26, 2023, 12:27:21 AM »
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #452 on: February 28, 2023, 11:18:49 AM »
Meanwhile down in the Carolina Zone.....
Still no change in the plants. I have a Myrica cerifera that had leaves dry out then defoliated. Then it started to regrow about two weeks later . No succh luck with the yang meis. Is there any test other than doing a scratch to see if my plant are still alive? I ask because i have a jaboticaba that has been defoliated more than a year but STILL shows green after a scratch.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #453 on: February 28, 2023, 01:07:19 PM »
Meanwhile down in the Carolina Zone.....
Still no change in the plants. I have a Myrica cerifera that had leaves dry out then defoliated. Then it started to regrow about two weeks later . No succh luck with the yang meis. Is there any test other than doing a scratch to see if my plant are still alive? I ask because i have a jaboticaba that has been defoliated more than a year but STILL shows green after a scratch.
If they havenít grown out by now, theyíre probably dead. While the bark may still be green, the roots arenít growing so itís just time until the plant dies. Based off everyone successful, new leaves growing is promising. Of course they can die later but if no leaves itís kinda a lost cause. Iíd love to be proven wrong. Luckily there are more sources for yangmei now.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #454 on: February 28, 2023, 02:41:04 PM »
Looks like only 1 maybe 2 plants out of the ten I ordered will make it. Oh well. seems like it a few years it will be easier to acquire new varieties.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #455 on: February 28, 2023, 03:15:23 PM »
Meanwhile down in the Carolina Zone.....
Still no change in the plants. I have a Myrica cerifera that had leaves dry out then defoliated. Then it started to regrow about two weeks later . No succh luck with the yang meis. Is there any test other than doing a scratch to see if my plant are still alive? I ask because i have a jaboticaba that has been defoliated more than a year but STILL shows green after a scratch.
If they havenít grown out by now, theyíre probably dead. While the bark may still be green, the roots arenít growing so itís just time until the plant dies. Based off everyone successful, new leaves growing is promising. Of course they can die later but if no leaves itís kinda a lost cause. Iíd love to be proven wrong. Luckily there are more sources for yangmei now.
More sources of yang me? Pray tell, where are these sources? I was once told "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!"

Perhaps that was a movie I saw 8) ;D

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #456 on: February 28, 2023, 05:04:35 PM »
As of a week ago I now have a second tree budding. I am not giving up on the others yet, but it is the largest two that are budding.
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #457 on: February 28, 2023, 05:05:52 PM »
Meanwhile down in the Carolina Zone.....
Still no change in the plants. I have a Myrica cerifera that had leaves dry out then defoliated. Then it started to regrow about two weeks later . No succh luck with the yang meis. Is there any test other than doing a scratch to see if my plant are still alive? I ask because i have a jaboticaba that has been defoliated more than a year but STILL shows green after a scratch.
If they havenít grown out by now, theyíre probably dead. While the bark may still be green, the roots arenít growing so itís just time until the plant dies. Based off everyone successful, new leaves growing is promising. Of course they can die later but if no leaves itís kinda a lost cause. Iíd love to be proven wrong. Luckily there are more sources for yangmei now.
More sources of yang me? Pray tell, where are these sources? I was once told "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!"

Perhaps that was a movie I saw 8) ;D

Highlander =)

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #458 on: February 28, 2023, 09:46:50 PM »
Meanwhile down in the Carolina Zone.....
Still no change in the plants. I have a Myrica cerifera that had leaves dry out then defoliated. Then it started to regrow about two weeks later . No succh luck with the yang meis. Is there any test other than doing a scratch to see if my plant are still alive? I ask because i have a jaboticaba that has been defoliated more than a year but STILL shows green after a scratch.

When the Yangmei are dying, especially the bare root trees, they generally start drying up from the tips of the branches. The branches generally get darker in color and you may see wrinkles on the branches as the cambium dries up.

Iíve had a Jaboticaba (Red Hybrid) completely defoliate on me after a relatively large crop on a very small tree but it leafed back out in Spring.

My large in ground Sabara had a huge bumper crop last year and it lost about 80% of its leaves and is just starting to bounce back.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #459 on: February 28, 2023, 09:58:38 PM »
Looks like only 1 maybe 2 plants out of the ten I ordered will make it. Oh well. seems like it a few years it will be easier to acquire new varieties.

Not to scare anyone off but please be careful where you acquire your Yangmei trees from. Many members have contacted me to ask if Iíve seen the trees on EBay and elsewhere and they wanted to know if it would be a good idea to purchase those trees. I donít know anything about the growers but the sale posts Iíve seen were trees on Rubra rootstock and the posts said they did not graft the trees. The trees were also fully leafed out which makes me wonder if they were imported with soil? If so, I wonder if it could be carrying RKN or other potentially harmful pests and diseases.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #460 on: February 28, 2023, 10:05:46 PM »
Looks like only 1 maybe 2 plants out of the ten I ordered will make it. Oh well. seems like it a few years it will be easier to acquire new varieties.

My friend ordered 9 trees from the most recent group buy and 5 of the trees were Dead on arrival. They were completely dried up and crispy when I snapped the branches, the cambium was completely dead. 4 other trees werenít crispy but only 3 of those 4 look like they will make it. The larger trees seemed to do better as the thicker diameter wood and roots has less surface area to mass in regards to desiccation.

A few of the trees are just starting to leaf out.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #461 on: March 01, 2023, 01:43:52 PM »
Looks like only 1 maybe 2 plants out of the ten I ordered will make it. Oh well. seems like it a few years it will be easier to acquire new varieties.

Not to scare anyone off but please be careful where you acquire your Yangmei trees from. Many members have contacted me to ask if Iíve seen the trees on EBay and elsewhere and they wanted to know if it would be a good idea to purchase those trees. I donít know anything about the growers but the sale posts Iíve seen were trees on Rubra rootstock and the posts said they did not graft the trees. The trees were also fully leafed out which makes me wonder if they were imported with soil? If so, I wonder if it could be carrying RKN or other potentially harmful pests and diseases.

Simon

The trees from Jason are shipped in a really weird medium, kind of like plasticine. I tried peeling it back and was able to take a peek at the roots and saw no signs or RKN, or pests at all. Not that scientific of a method to check, but it was clearly not catastrophic.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #462 on: March 05, 2023, 07:00:09 PM »
Myrica cerifera flowering, any ideas if this is male or female?




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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #463 on: March 05, 2023, 08:09:13 PM »
Marta is selling scions of a flowering male yangmei.
https://reallygoodplants.com/

Picture from her blog of the flowering male called Adam, she is also offering scions of a female Eve, pics of fruit are on her blog.

https://fruitsandgardening.blogspot.com/2023/03/yangmei-selections-adam-and-eve.html?m=1


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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #464 on: March 05, 2023, 10:43:11 PM »
Marta is selling scions of a flowering male yangmei.
https://reallygoodplants.com/

Picture from her blog of the flowering male called Adam, she is also offering scions of a female Eve, pics of fruit are on her blog.

https://fruitsandgardening.blogspot.com/2023/03/yangmei-selections-adam-and-eve.html?m=1


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Just ordered some! I look forward to these as itís guaranteed make and female.
I'm glad there's another report of yangmei doing well on pennyslvanica.
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #465 on: March 05, 2023, 10:48:10 PM »
Myrica cerifera flowering, any ideas if this is male or female?




Rob, I canít tell. It looks a bit different than my male cerifera blooms but i have no idea. I canít see any pistil.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #466 on: March 05, 2023, 11:32:40 PM »
Marta is selling scions of a flowering male yangmei.
https://reallygoodplants.com/

Picture from her blog of the flowering male called Adam, she is also offering scions of a female Eve, pics of fruit are on her blog.

https://fruitsandgardening.blogspot.com/2023/03/yangmei-selections-adam-and-eve.html?m=1


Janet

Wow,
All gone already.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #467 on: March 05, 2023, 11:46:44 PM »
If my grafts are successful, I will share scions with you.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #468 on: March 05, 2023, 11:58:36 PM »
If my grafts are successful, I will share scions with you.

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Thanks Janet...
We can exchange some of the Scions.  I have F crystal, F WuSu and DK male.  Maybe F DongKui, 2 of my 7 from this year order show some new buds.
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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #469 on: March 06, 2023, 09:41:08 PM »
I'm no myrica expert, but these flowers look female to me:



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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #470 on: March 06, 2023, 10:02:54 PM »
I'm no myrica expert, but these flowers look female to me:



They are hard to tell apart when they are small. I think those are male flowers, though. I was looking at some wild plants today and some of the immature stage male flowers looked a lot like your picture. The female flowers on my bush are longer and branch more. Its got 1 main stalk with something like 6 or 8 side branches coming off it at right angles. If you look closely at pictures of berries on-line you can see what I am talking about--they come in little clusters at the nodes (not singly).

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #471 on: March 09, 2023, 02:45:22 AM »
Anyone try grafting it on Myrica pusilla? Will the dwarfing affect the graft too?

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #472 on: March 10, 2023, 10:48:43 AM »
I have not tried grafting onto M pusilla or Pennsylvanica.  Marta has some trees on Pennsylvanica so I wonder if thereís any benefit using this rootstock.

I wonder what influences the various rootstocks will have on the quality of fruit, if any.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #473 on: March 10, 2023, 01:32:07 PM »
Simon, which rootstock is easier to graft these with success, the M Californica or M Cerifera?

I have been grafting on the M Californica only but not on Cerifera.

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Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« Reply #474 on: March 11, 2023, 10:26:49 PM »
I'm now using the M. Pennsylvanica for my rootstock now. I'll let you know which ones take and grow better.

 

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