Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread

[spaugh]

Mine is just starting to make some flowers.  Looks like it will be 1-2 months before it really blooms.

[fruit4me]

Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.

[simon_grow]

Mine is just starting to make some flowers.  Looks like it will be 1-2 months before it really blooms.

Hey Brad, looking good and healthy. Did you graft any males onto it yet?

Simon

[simon_grow]

Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.

Hey Max, is your tree in the ground or in a pot? Besides the yellowing, I also see some burnt leaf tips towards the back of your picture. Did your trees have any close contact with the trees imported from China? I’ve noticed that the trees that were imported from China and had root knot nematodes tended to have yellow leaves like yours. I wonder if any cross contamination may have occurred with RKN infested trees?

Simon

[spaugh]

Simon, I never got a male piece to put on it.  The plant got pretty big.  It may not work that well to hang a male piece on it.  I will probably need to chop it way back to get the new piece to grow. 

[fruit4me]

Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.

Hey Max, is your tree in the ground or in a pot? Besides the yellowing, I also see some burnt leaf tips towards the back of your picture. Did your trees have any close contact with the trees imported from China? I’ve noticed that the trees that were imported from China and had root knot nematodes tended to have yellow leaves like yours. I wonder if any cross contamination may have occurred with RKN infested trees?

Simon

Hi Simon, the trees are planted in the ground. It’s all grafted on Californica rootstock. The Scions are from China trees.  I’m positively  sure there’s no cross contamination with the RKN infested trees. Hopefully the trees will be better when Spring comes around. As for the burnt leaf tips, I think I threw down too much fertilizer pellets.

[nattyfroootz]

I have a grafted tree with two varieties on it and one of them is yellowing out super hard while the other isnt.

[simon_grow]

Simon, I never got a male piece to put on it.  The plant got pretty big.  It may not work that well to hang a male piece on it.  I will probably need to chop it way back to get the new piece to grow.

Hey Brad, you can grab some scions from my Hermaphrodite next time you’re in the neighborhood. You could also stop by to collect some pollen if you want to try to get some fruit this year. I would actually recommend doing a high graft for male Yangmei scions grafted onto female varieties because these trees grow so fast and it would be beneficial to have a larger percentage of the tree remain the female variety.

Simon

[simon_grow]

Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.

Hey Max, is your tree in the ground or in a pot? Besides the yellowing, I also see some burnt leaf tips towards the back of your picture. Did your trees have any close contact with the trees imported from China? I’ve noticed that the trees that were imported from China and had root knot nematodes tended to have yellow leaves like yours. I wonder if any cross contamination may have occurred with RKN infested trees?

Simon

Hi Simon, the trees are planted in the ground. It’s all grafted on Californica rootstock. The Scions are from China trees.  I’m positively  sure there’s no cross contamination with the RKN infested trees. Hopefully the trees will be better when Spring comes around. As for the burnt leaf tips, I think I threw down too much fertilizer pellets.

Hey Max,

I have noticed that some trees grafted onto Californica rootstock yellowed as it got colder. My Dongkui on Californica started yellowing a bit when I got frost and it seems to be recovering a bit now that the cold has passed and the sun is showing. I have other trees grafted onto Californica rootstock that didn’t yellow at all however.

Simon

[simon_grow]

I have a grafted tree with two varieties on it and one of them is yellowing out super hard while the other isnt.

Hey Nate,

Did you check the graft union on both varieties? I’ve had this happen to some of my trees where I rushed my grafting and the union was kinda sloppy. I believe there was a bottleneck effect with the transport of nutrients due to incomplete union formation that caused the slower growth and yellow leaves on my tree.

Simon

[seng]

Mines look terrible.  Not sure if it's the cold, Californica rootstock, or too much water.

It looks like either not enough Nitrogen or root not getting enough air (water log or compact dirt).

[fruit4me]

Seng, your probably right about roots not getting enough air. The soil is very mucky. I should clear the mulch out to let it dry out more.

[seng]

Seng, your probably right about roots not getting enough air. The soil is very mucky. I should clear the mulch out to let it dry out more.

Another way to get the oxygen in and dry out the soil is to use a stick to punch lots of holes in the ground.

[Luisport]

Some of my small plants...

[BloomAndSprout]

So many of my trees die from the top down! Is there any prevention?

[simon_grow]

So many of my trees die from the top down! Is there any prevention?

Are these the trees imported from China? Often times, it’s an issue with the roots. Best to graft the scions onto healthy rootstocks.

Simon

[simon_grow]

Here’s an update on my Yangmei trees. Looks like my trees were able to set fruit despite the weekly rains. All the trees are still in bloom but they’re definitely slowing down in terms of blooms opening up, especially for the earlier varieties that started blooming first. The White honey and Wandao are the latest to open this year.

Here’s the fruit getting bigger on my Big Black Carbon






Here’s White Honey with blooms, set fruit and new vegetative growth






Here’s Dongkui with fruit set, notice the color of the fruit has reddish/purplish coloration




An Hai with very heavy fruit set







And the worst part is that some of the fruit are so close to each other, I had to thin the fruit


I will probably end up thinning 50% of the fruit from An Hai since it appears there’s hundreds of fruit set. I’m not sure how much natural attrition there will be but I’d rather thin some fruit and get better quality since this is the first year fruiting and these trees are in pots.

Simon

[gozp]

Lets see the progress of everybody's yangmei

[FruitFool]

Looking good, Simon.
Hope you will have lots of fruits ripen.

Fruitfool

[pinkturtle]

Very nice Simon.........

[SHV]

Just noticed that my Yangmei seedlings are popping their heads out of the dirt after a long winters nap. These were the seeds planted from the Weee! local order last July. I just buried them in a bunch of small pots, left them outside, and forgot about them. 

[SDPirate]

Just noticed that my Yangmei seedlings are popping their heads out of the dirt after a long winters nap. These were the seeds planted from the Weee! local order last July. I just buried them in a bunch of small pots, left them outside, and forgot about them. 

Which varieties are those? I only got the Purple Pearl in July and mine have been sprouted of the soil for probably over a month now.  I thought the cold stratification would trigger them faster to pop up where you're at since marginally colder.  I did basically same thing and paid no attention to mine.  Here is mine from today:

[K-Rimes]

I had purple pearl and the "giant" one they were selling as well, rats got a ton of them but they keep popping up. I should net a few seedlings. I have 4 or 5 seedlings out in the yard that are looking pretty good right now as well. I'll get some photos.

[SHV]

I also purchased Purple Pearl and Eastern Giant, but didn’t bother labeling.  This picture is after I moved to the greenhouse, but they spent all winter outdoors at the lower end of my property where the mornings are particularly cold.  Even with the additional cold strat, it’s been a chilly March so perhaps that’s slowed down the germination.  There are still a large number of seeds that are still sleeping.

[ScottR]

Nice Job Simon, your the Yangmei prince for sure, the magic touch for sure Im another 5yrs. you'll be swamped in fruit