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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrangequat 19-15-7
« on: May 07, 2022, 08:57:34 AM »
Is it similiar to this one?
It is Augusta Citrangequat at McClendons Yard
https://www.facebook.com/McClendon-Citrus-100681135723910/photos/pcb.121968430261847/121966050262085/
It is Augusta Citrangequat at McClendons Yard
https://www.facebook.com/McClendon-Citrus-100681135723910/photos/pcb.121968430261847/121966050262085/
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Monoembryonic Hardy Orange?
« on: April 23, 2022, 06:31:26 PM »
I meant it's easy to keep the bitter taste 
You can dry and store the pollen.
Most of my poncirus seedings are actually monoembryonic, (from different sources) , I don't know why, but the polyembryonic ones have been in the minority. among some I have also found direct F1 hybrids with poncirus as mother, trifoliate but with enlarged midleaf.
The more you sow the greater chance you have to find hybrid seedlings.
You can dry and store the pollen.
Most of my poncirus seedings are actually monoembryonic, (from different sources) , I don't know why, but the polyembryonic ones have been in the minority. among some I have also found direct F1 hybrids with poncirus as mother, trifoliate but with enlarged midleaf.
The more you sow the greater chance you have to find hybrid seedlings.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Monoembryonic Hardy Orange?
« on: April 22, 2022, 05:51:27 PM »I want to keep the bitter flavor, at least in my baseline plants. What I need are zygotic specimens.
this should be easy to achieve
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Monoembryonic Hardy Orange?
« on: April 21, 2022, 04:28:02 AM »
Once I got seeds of this monoembryonic poncirus. But I lost them.
Maybe the UCR still sends seeds?
Maybe the UCR still sends seeds?
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How likely is it that my Ichang Papeda is actually a hybrid?
« on: April 16, 2022, 04:19:04 AM »
I must correct myself. the petioles on my Ichang Papedas are not only widest in the middle but also at the top. but the middle is already as wide as the top....
This can be seen on the picture better than in my description
This can be seen on the picture better than in my description
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How likely is it that my Ichang Papeda is actually a hybrid?
« on: April 15, 2022, 09:06:27 PM »
For me, Ichang and its hybrids grow better than Poncirus and its hybrids.
The size of the petioles change over time, but the shape remains pretty much the same. On your plant, the top part is the widest. On my Ichangensis, the middle part is the widest. Hybrids tend to have a shape like yours. At least on my plants.
The size of the petioles change over time, but the shape remains pretty much the same. On your plant, the top part is the widest. On my Ichangensis, the middle part is the widest. Hybrids tend to have a shape like yours. At least on my plants.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: F2 citrange winter hardiness trial
« on: April 14, 2022, 05:08:32 PM »
You really seem to have the right conditions for Poncirushybrids. Congratulations! I'm very excited to see how it goes.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus+ early bud break
« on: April 08, 2022, 04:20:26 PM »
My FD and Poncirus had such damage after a warm period in early spring. The freezing temperatures caught them then when they had already awakened from dormancy.
I also think that is the reason, as you have already written.
I also think that is the reason, as you have already written.
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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Temperate Eriobotrya species - East Asia
« on: April 08, 2022, 03:13:52 PM »
Eriobotrya "Rose Anne" is supposed to flower in spring.
Novak and Shambala are supposed to flower constantly so there will be some flowers in spring too.
I will get Rose Anne soon.
Novak and Shambala are supposed to flower constantly so there will be some flowers in spring too.
I will get Rose Anne soon.
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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Kinzu/Hong Kong/Fortunella hindsii seeds
« on: April 01, 2022, 02:07:54 AM »I still have around 40 seeds left if anyone is interested! 100% germination rate with the methods I’ve used.
Hello @franklazar26
May I ask what method you used? I had some problems with hindsii at germination. Btw do you know if your plant is polyploid or diploid?
Thank you very much for that!
Mikkel
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: First fruits of Citrumelo 5star x Morton cross
« on: March 26, 2022, 11:26:19 AM »
Maybe I can help out
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: F2 citrange winter hardiness trial
« on: March 25, 2022, 05:43:01 PM »
This is impressive!
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Can you identify these citrus seedlings/seeds?
« on: March 22, 2022, 04:57:02 PM »
artichokes
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold hardy lemons
« on: March 15, 2022, 05:50:34 PM »
Once I ate a fruit, and all I remember is that it was the sourest thing I have ever experienced. But I have often read that it is not very sour.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold hardy lemons
« on: March 04, 2022, 06:15:01 PM »In my garden, seedlings of Khasi Papeda are not as hardy as those of Ichang Papeda. I P loses younger leaves and summer shoots freeze back. But Khasi Papeda dies above ground every winter, but came back every time. But it survives with difficulty and has little growth.I still have one plant from originally over a hundred.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold hardy lemons
« on: March 02, 2022, 04:30:58 PM »I have been thinking about this awhile so maybe I should just dump my thoughts into a post.
Yes, it would be nice to hear!
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold hardy lemons
« on: March 02, 2022, 09:00:08 AM »
always preaching... I'm sorry to have to say this so directly, but sometimes I wonder if you even read what others write? and also think about it....
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold hardy lemons
« on: March 02, 2022, 06:35:50 AM »
this is a rather simple idea of heredity and genetics in general.
there are some examples of cold-hardy F1 hybrids with almost edible fruits. there are also some candidates from the F2 generation, you just have to read and observe carefully.
it is true that a simple cross between poncirus and citrus will not produce a predictable result, no matter how much you think about it beforehand, it always depends on the number of seedlings, the greater the number of seedlings the greater the probability of finding the desired gene combination, it is much more about probabilities and not only about recessive and dominant.
there are some examples of cold-hardy F1 hybrids with almost edible fruits. there are also some candidates from the F2 generation, you just have to read and observe carefully.
it is true that a simple cross between poncirus and citrus will not produce a predictable result, no matter how much you think about it beforehand, it always depends on the number of seedlings, the greater the number of seedlings the greater the probability of finding the desired gene combination, it is much more about probabilities and not only about recessive and dominant.
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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Carolina lime questions
« on: February 08, 2022, 04:56:29 PM »I have them both but they are young. Dragon Lime is like flying dragon with contorted twisted branches and Carolina Line is mostly unifoliate based off my plant, which I got from Stan. It was recently grafted and is a small plant and so far it has fared well this winter. Of course, no fruit on them yet.
Do you have pictures?
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SunDragon
« on: February 08, 2022, 03:18:26 PM »
SunDragon is (FF-6-10-124 x us-119) x FF-1-11-7
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SunDragon
« on: February 08, 2022, 10:55:09 AM »
@kumin do you think any other FF variety beside FF 1-74-14 has Poncirus ancestry? Do you have it?
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SunDragon
« on: February 08, 2022, 09:12:44 AM »
yes, with the appropriate support, much would be achievable. SunDragon seems to me to be at least interesting for breeding. It is explicitly described as the starting point for further breeding. There are already crosses of SunDragon that have already bred in Florida. The seedlings already fruited in the third year.
Even if SunDragon is not hardy, it would be worthwhile to test backcrosses with hardy varieties.
Even if SunDragon is not hardy, it would be worthwhile to test backcrosses with hardy varieties.
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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SunDragon
« on: February 08, 2022, 06:56:23 AM »
Thank you!
I was told that there is also information somewhere about the crossing formula, but it can not be found.
All sources say (still) nothing about the winter hardiness. Probably it will not be very hardy, as there is only 1/8 portion of Poncirus in it. The most interesting thing is that its seedlings seem to have an early flowering trait.
https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/project/?accnNo=434734&fy=2019
"Finally and serendipitously, ARS researchers have a population of plants that have Poncirus in the pedigree,
but are otherwise conventional, which flowered within three years of seed germination. "
I was told that there is also information somewhere about the crossing formula, but it can not be found.
All sources say (still) nothing about the winter hardiness. Probably it will not be very hardy, as there is only 1/8 portion of Poncirus in it. The most interesting thing is that its seedlings seem to have an early flowering trait.
https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/project/?accnNo=434734&fy=2019
"Finally and serendipitously, ARS researchers have a population of plants that have Poncirus in the pedigree,
but are otherwise conventional, which flowered within three years of seed germination. "
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Citrus General Discussion / SunDragon
« on: February 07, 2022, 03:54:31 PM »
Can anyone provide a link to more information about SunDragon?
It is a new variety developed for its HLB tolerance. As a starting point for further breeding, but also for use as a cultivar. The fruits are edible, but not everyone will like it, as it is supposed to have a different flavour than oranges.
SunDragon has Poncirus in its pedigree.
It is said that a precocious Poncirus breeding line was used to breed it. I can't find any further information on this though.
Has anyone heard of it? Or even tried it already?
It is a new variety developed for its HLB tolerance. As a starting point for further breeding, but also for use as a cultivar. The fruits are edible, but not everyone will like it, as it is supposed to have a different flavour than oranges.
SunDragon has Poncirus in its pedigree.
It is said that a precocious Poncirus breeding line was used to breed it. I can't find any further information on this though.
Has anyone heard of it? Or even tried it already?
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