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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cuttings for Trade
« on: October 01, 2021, 01:29:59 PM »
if you have really good mulberries- I might like to trade. I have mangos- ugly betty, kesar, white pirie, and I can  probably get some of the avos you're looking for.
not wise to the mulberry scene but the long skinny ones put me off- seem to be more trouble than they're worth.  tart flavor profile suits me best.

Kona is dry side correct? If so, Morus Nigra is what you're looking for, and I will have tons of scions from Persian coming up.

Sorry Gumbo, since the discovery of Citrus greening in my county, I have been part of the quarantine zone.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« on: September 19, 2021, 03:36:00 PM »
Hey guys, I'm curious if Valencia Pride is usually this late in the season for SoCal. My tree didn't set fruit the first two flowerings this year due to what seems like bad water management on my part. A little cold snap later in the season cause a little bit of flowering and it hung on to one fruit with my revised watering schedule.

But this fruit is on the tree and no hint of yellow to it this far. I'm not complaining just wondering if it is typical.

I think I start seeing them in markets around now, but those are the ones grown in coachella valley.

It would be a little later riverside, and a bit later still more coastal.

I will simplify my choice and buy 3 pierce. can you confim me that pierce has good productivity and few seeds ?

Here in my yard Orton is very productive and the fruit is big. Taste is very subjective, but most people like Orton.
My honey heart drops all the fruitlets when the heat waves come, but without the heat waves it produce well too.

Quoted for posterity.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Edward mango fruit?
« on: September 11, 2021, 01:01:13 AM »
Rob's always right.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID White Sapote
« on: September 11, 2021, 12:46:48 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID - Cherimoya variety
« on: September 08, 2021, 11:29:10 PM »
Could be 'Bays'. It's an impresa type for sure.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: californian cherimoya
« on: September 01, 2021, 12:06:38 AM »
Pierce is a great tasting variety and early season. Your spacing is sufficient at 7M, but the fruit will likely require hand pollination, especially if in a dry greenhouse, but the misting system could help here. Cherimoyas like a cooler summer and milder winter than what you have, but should be able to manage the extremes if protected/given a nice microclimate. That said, my atemoyas fared much better on the 40+ degree days, even grafted to the same tree. I think it's a great idea for you to experiment with cherimoyas, Pierce is a real winner.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya...ID this
« on: August 23, 2021, 11:58:36 PM »
I think the shape is partly dependent on the pollen used to pollinate, I noticed some of my varieties change shape year to year.

It works well with modification. The door on top has to be secured with wire.
I bait it upside down for a few days in a location in the shade, then I flip it over to catch them.

You need to continually move locations to keep them from wising up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Irwin mango
« on: August 18, 2021, 12:57:34 AM »
Even in Japan where Irwins can be marketed as the "egg of the sun", they are poorly flavored.

If flavor is a priority, you can skip Irwin.

Where did you find Starch?

Steeper sections will erode faster, and gophers will be a never-ending battle. Make good cages for the trees out of 1/2" galvanized hardware cloth, and consider several dozen Gophinator traps. Don't make plans for the days following rains except for trapping gophers. You're in a beautiful location!

I've had similar experiences with transplanted trees from local nurseries. Planting seeds for rootstock is much better. I too love Maha, I would graft a seedling when it gets large enough. I know of other varieties with the same sap flavor (parsnip, commonly referred to as Indochinese resin), but I don't know of others with the same Durian-esque ripe flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mangos 2021
« on: July 18, 2021, 11:57:33 PM »

Had what I believe was labeled as Pairi Saly, or something like that. Very good.  Sweet, spicy, tad acid, no fiber. Has anyone heard of this mango, or something similar to that name?

Paheri, Pirie is a north indian mango, Green on the outside, round and very fiberless, but strongly alternate bearing, even less if grown in warm wintered climates.

That could be the one, it's well regarded, considered similar to 'bombay'.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 18, 2021, 12:49:41 PM »
The Mulgoba is a Florida mango (suspected seedling from India), which is documented in the CRFG material and is the founding fruit of the Florida mango industry, being a progenitor to most of the commercial successes like Haden. It's sought after when available, but never rose to the point of being a commercial success due to it's infrequent fruiting. If grown somewhere where there's enough cold influence, the fruiting may be more consistent.

The varieties I've tried so far are Kesar, Alphonse, and Banganpalli. They all tasted different.
My preference is in the order listed, but there is a big gap between the last two.

I find that people who like the pine resiny flavor of the double IPAs that Stone puts out really like the Banganpalli. I find that the more fruity/less overpowering IPAs that Alpine puts out are usually more popular however, and those who like the other two usually drink those beers. Those who don't like IPAs don't usually go for the Indian mangoes, they may prefer the Manila-types.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your weapon of choice?
« on: July 14, 2021, 02:48:15 AM »
Though the 8" victorinox is an excellent all-purpose, I do prefer a thinner victorinox boning or fillet knife 6-7" when processing mango, as I can make tighter turns around the seed (like the bone of a chicken thigh) while preserving the delicate flesh. I find that If I do that with a chef's knife with a broader blade, I usually pry the meat of the cheek back too much and bend the flesh while rounding the seed. The other benefit of these two blades is that they are tempered, and can be useful for removing the skin due to the flexibility of the blade (like skinning fish). I don't eat the skin of all mangoes, and when processing large quantities, it really helps to get closer to the skin.

It's perfectly fine, it means your nutrients will be released more quickly. Usually the grounds in my compost end up all full of hyphae within a week or two, then if kept humid mushrooms will appear.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 12, 2021, 11:58:53 AM »
With such strong cold influence, you may be able to fruit the North Indian type mangoes that don't fruit much in Florida. Like Mulgoba and Shamsul Asamar. Definitely worth trying difficult to fruit types.

I think my tree may have reached everbearing stage, fingers crossed. The order of ripening is Mary Lane, Subelle, North Park, then Subelle is blooming again. It looks like Mary lane is getting ready to bloom after. I will keep checking back, but I'm excited to see consecutive crops ripening.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona pollination question
« on: July 08, 2021, 01:17:35 AM »
Har has stated it multiple times, but I can't remember clearly. I believe the female is the start of the name of the hybrid, therefore Atemoya would be Ate (sugar apple) pollinated with the pollen of a cherimoya. I do believe in common usage however that any hybrid of the the two would be referred two as Atemoya.

If I have remembered the naming convention properly the cherilata is a cherimoya pollinated by a reticulata. I do believe it was a reticulata thread where Har divulged the naming convention.

Don't let them freezer burn, like any food meant to be frozen, use thick bags, remove all air, chill first (cold part of the fridge), then move to a freezer in small amounts on a cookie sheet to conduct the heat out. Once solid, they make excellent chamango.

My xie shan did this several times before finally flushing a sturdy shoot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Mango Tree Variant. Help!
« on: July 03, 2021, 03:37:43 PM »
Your best bet is Imam Pasand, or Alampur Baneshan. Your mango is dwarf, spreading, thin leaves and Indian type.

It's never for certain until genetic tests are performed, in all likelyhood it's one of the above two which are often referred to as synonyms.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 27, 2021, 05:21:51 PM »
I've been looking at them for a while for things like peaches which have huge crops and short shelf lives.

Do you know what brand of dehydrator they are using?

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