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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help, banana id
« on: Today at 09:05:12 AM »
Well, it looks like the manzano clumps I get sometimes where the bananas go every which way.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf or Pineapple Pleasure
« on: June 17, 2021, 02:01:44 PM »
E4 is a nice tree and tastes great, it also has a wide period of great flavor.. Iíve had PP but a majority were just average with a couple being exceptional, like fruit punch which also has a narrow window of being perfect. Sweet tart, thatís another one with a long period of excellent flavor. That said, I grow all of them because they are good mangos.

No Glen for me -- just bland tasting.

Gotta speak up, because this is just not true for everyone, or probably anyone with a few trees ("bottom tier"). Glenn has been the most productive and consistent of my trees. Fruit is good, sometimes very good. Clean, fiberless, juicy, and sweet. Has peachy aroma and taste as well. Not complex enough, I will admit. But still a really good mango when grown right.

I've had bland Glenns, probably were hit with nitrogen or grown up north (anywhere north of Miami; don't know how ya'll can stand the cold!). 

My sense is Glenn does better down here south of Miami, and likes limestone soil, and no nitrogen.

My Glenns are quite nice, sweet and peachy.

I don't doubt that other people grow crappy or subpar Glenns.

Its the perfect mango for my wife and youngest kid, wouldn't dream of chopping it.

Will start breakfast with a Glenn, then a coffee, and will go from there...

I like Glenns, itís my wifeís favorite mango. The kids like them and so do friends. Itís a pleasant mango, and not messy so I usually grab one and eat it whole on the way to work. It is always reliable.

My friend gifted a supposedly Mahachanok 5 years ago from Excalibur, there was also a label that listed the name and date of said variety. Removed fruit first few years so didnít think anything of it. Last year it fruited but fruit dropped. This year it has a lot of fruit but itís a malikka, not a Mahachanok, I hope itís as good as some say, because i sure do like eating Mahachanok.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: June 10, 2021, 08:26:39 AM »

A friend let me try some of his pim sen mun. There is a little fiber but if you like the taste of longans then this is an excellent mango to eat. It was really enjoyable with a paper thin skin. People eat this green but I like it ripe. Speaking of green mango, I wife ate some pram kea mea and she loves it. Crunchy sweet and refreshing.

Do you mean fallen mangos? Because they donít bother any mangos on my trees that arenít split or diseased.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tier Mango Reviews
« on: June 06, 2021, 01:57:25 PM »
Awesome, I've seen sugarloaf described as having a coconut flavor too so I'll post my review soon for that.  It's still rock hard right now!  My child recognized the lemon flavor in PPK.  The good thing about PPK is that it's an early season mango.  Family members always have to be considered when planting a tree for sure.  Right now I only have Glenn and Pickering at my home, both early season.  Glenn is amazing this year but for some reason Pickering tastes horrible.  I remember it being good before but this year it's fibrous and bland and tastes like Tommy Atkins?
How odd for your Pickering to be that bad!  Fibrous?  Tommy Atkins?  Sounds like the tree is missing something.  Usually they improve once their season kicks in.

I have had bad/insipid versions of most varieties in certain years.  I just dont see why all the craziness over a Pickering.   They can be ok to good when at their best but cant see why they are treated as the be all to end all (in terms of fruit quality...I know many like them for the tree's growth habit).

Yes, itís a good mango,but there are so many better ones that you can keep small with a little more effort.

Come when they just open and you can usually get the fruit you want. It can get hectic in the fruit stand or you can order a box and come pick it up there, just say you are picking up and theyíll get it for you, if you are scared then wear a mask or two.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tier Mango Reviews
« on: June 02, 2021, 06:35:36 AM »
There is some truth in Julies Lemon Zest review BUT for example I live near her and not a single one of my many Lemon Zest fruit have even shown signs of ripening. Not a single one has fallen off a tree in over 3 weeks and LZís are not supposed to be ready to eat till the end of June into July so most likely the one Julie tested had not met itís fabulous potential. Of course we all know ďThe DisclaimerĒ but I thought Iíd mention my experience with this incredible variety so far this season to protect those who could be influenced by a mango review on a spectacular mango variety whose proper maturation time had not arrived.

The cold winter up here gave some of us an early crop. I have some LZ ready, but I thought it was a review of ppk.

Julie, post a photo, it will be easier to help. If these trees are small and just planted they should be easy to replant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 02:03:54 PM »
Cool -Sounds like maybe all your grafting in the canopy above kind of levelled the playing field for your work down below - and took away some of the apical dominance that you otherwise would've been fighting?

Maybe the solution is not either/or then - maybe some top working at the same time is the answer...


Apical dominance wasnít a struggle. There were still rootstock branches present when I graft the lower
scion. They grew at a similar pace, and as time passed I added more varieties onto the seedling branches. It was a gradual conversion. You need to get a nice shaped scion to Mimic an ideal angle for a lower branch.

My trees seem to do well with pine needles, my neighbors bag them up for me and I put them everywhere and trees thrive.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 12:56:25 PM »
The scion was about pencil size. There was no decapitation, but every upper branch was grafted. This is a one year old graft, on a seedling tree my friend gave me. Every branch doesnít exhibit any growth restriction. I was thinking of doing this to some lanky mango trees to introduce lower branches.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitoga bananas
« on: May 21, 2021, 11:41:21 AM »
About 10ft, relatively cold tolerant, all the bunches on the other varieties died off during the winter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pitoga bananas
« on: May 21, 2021, 08:55:30 AM »

If you have kids they would love these bananas, they are good for adults too. A friend introduced these to me and itís a really good banana fruit and tree. Bunches can get twice as big but this was fruited in the winter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 21, 2021, 08:48:44 AM »

Hereís a side graft. Itís a big Jim grafted on and thereís some grafts onto it as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side Veneer Multigrafts On A Loquat
« on: May 20, 2021, 06:01:19 PM »
Side veneers work, so too do bark grafts. You can go as low as you reasonably want, if you do it at a good angle it can turn into a good lower branch.

Without a photo Iím think they whole root system broke off except for a couple surface roots. Rooting hormone would help inhibit fungal growths and encourage new roots. I soak my air layers in hormone mix before I plant them out and they do well.

Do a search for tropical acres farm.

Let's make it easy.

I did that at first but didnít know if links were allowed.

Thatís a major injury. Left to itís own it will die. If you dip it in some hormone, and baby it, there might be a chance for survival, you have nothing to lose at this point:

Do a search for tropical acres farm.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Taralay Mango
« on: May 16, 2021, 11:30:28 PM »
Rob I was wondering mostly what you thought of the fruit.  And if they are selling trees now.  I somehow ended up with one of these trees, not sure where I got it.  But it is one of the better growers here.  Hasn't set fruit yet but its growing really nice.  And I need to top work some seedlings and want to use this one if you think it tastes good I will probably use it.

Ahhh, I was wondering if you meant fruit or trees...yes, ZHPP released the trees.  Its definitely worth growing and from what I have direct knowledge/involvement,  most who have had it like it very much.

Rob, just so you know, whenever you recommend something I usually plant it out soon after. Thank you. Also would you recommend p-22.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kandrian bananas
« on: May 15, 2021, 05:35:22 AM »
Rob, I have one too but itís not fruited yet, I have other varieties too, if you need something let me know.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID this mango
« on: May 13, 2021, 11:18:07 AM »
#3 is Valencia pride. I have one that my parents like eating green.

Wait for two flushes. These little flushes could be from the scionsí energy reserves so itís not a sure thing there is a good union yet. I had one graft take a whole year to have a flush.

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