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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #300 on: May 02, 2021, 02:53:18 PM »
ok, good. Very nice of Ken.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #301 on: May 02, 2021, 03:22:07 PM »
Anyone doing bottle graft or approach graft? Simon? Just tossing around ideas.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #302 on: May 02, 2021, 03:24:43 PM »
I was noticing some dying back of the tips of the plants so I went ahead and clipped them all to graft onto some M. californica.  I left rootstock & a bit of graft in most cases and plan to wrap those in tape.  I'll probably just be doing cleft grafts.

 I just got 4, 5 gallon M. californica to try and graft a few of each type onto.  They are a pretty common tree in nurseries here in Northern california. 

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #303 on: May 02, 2021, 11:27:18 PM »
I'm interested in 1 of the Dongkui.
I'm in Hawthorne near LAX.  If still available
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #304 on: May 04, 2021, 01:09:03 PM »



I donít want to jinx it but I think I see signs of life on my donqui

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #305 on: May 04, 2021, 04:52:57 PM »
Anyone doing bottle graft or approach graft? Simon? Just tossing around ideas.

Hey Fang, I plan on approach grafting onto M. Californicus but Iím going to wait until the grafted plants have fully recovered before attempting anything.

How is your plant from the first group buy doing? Do you have any advice for us?

Simon

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #306 on: May 04, 2021, 04:54:44 PM »



I donít want to jinx it but I think I see signs of life on my donqui

Thatís very promising, please keep us updated! Iím afraid to even look at my plants too long for fear that it will just up and die on me.

Simon

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #307 on: May 04, 2021, 05:14:44 PM »



Grafted what I could onto californicus. I do not hold out much hope at all for these grafts. Maybe the micro grafts... only one scion I took was decent and healthy looking (the smallest one)

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #308 on: May 05, 2021, 12:26:06 AM »
That looks good.

I removed more dead woods.
Only 2Ē long branches left.
No buds.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #309 on: May 05, 2021, 12:38:51 AM »
i noticed theres no buds on any of the trees.  the rootstocks from the local nursery, covered in new growth and buds.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #310 on: May 05, 2021, 09:23:53 AM »
At the very tip of one of mine (it was dead) it had the same bud look as californicus. I donít have much live wood left on the scions (has to cut back a lot) and the lower stuff wasnít budding like the top, and then not all of them either - I think just biqi

Hoping for the grafts!

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #311 on: May 05, 2021, 12:28:07 PM »

I feel I should mention that Fang Liu has done many many yang mei grafts onto my myrica californica and even though some took and pushed leaves for over a year, they all ultimately and quite suddenly died.  He reported to me this week that he had finally successfully grafted onto a myrica californica plant I had given him (his was still in the pot I think;  mine in the ground) but I believe Yunfei Chen found grafting on East Coast bayberry was more successful than on our west coast version (so you folks in  FLA may be in luck!)  The article on Chen https://www.californiabountiful.com/features/article.aspx?arID=2451also made it sound that he was grafting onto yang mei seedlings he had grown so who knows? 

Lol, wax myrtles? Plenty of those around here if anyone wanted to trade something for Florida wax myrtle rootstocks. I might go ahead and start severing runners..

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #312 on: May 05, 2021, 12:42:31 PM »
I'm curious what the rootstocks of our plants are. One can assume yangmei, I guess. If our graft doesn't work on what we received... Maybe we will still get some yangmei if the root stock survives?


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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #313 on: May 05, 2021, 02:10:56 PM »
Been following  this from beginning.  I was in on the first go around and unfortunately mine did not survive.  Truly an incredible effort and I hope everyone has 100% success with your trees!  Hey beicadad...you should write up your procedures, findings, conclusions from start to finish.  Should make for one hell of a read!  I'm sure it would be a good source for anyone else wanting to do something similar.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #314 on: May 05, 2021, 02:53:30 PM »
Most of my smaller branches are completely dried out and dead. Some of the thicker branches are still partially green.

I found one bud sprouting from one of the rootstocks and I immediately pinched it off. Iím still hopeful that at least a few of us can keep these plants alive and hopefully fruit them.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #315 on: May 05, 2021, 03:06:37 PM »
Simon, I would not have pinched off the only thing growing. Now your rootstock may not make it. If you left it alone at least you could see what type of rootstock they used if your Yangmei doesn't make it. I would wait until you see new bud growth on the original grafted branch before removing the rootstock buds.
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #316 on: May 05, 2021, 03:10:26 PM »
Simon, I would not have pinched off the only thing growing. Now your rootstock may not make it. If you left it alone at least you could see what type of rootstock they used if your Yangmei (graft) doesn't make it. I would wait until you see new bud growth on the grafted branch before removing the rootstock buds.

I'm pretty mean to my grafted plants and never let them grow anything below the graft union till it is fully established and growing well. It would be sad to not give the graft the energy it needs - but I admit that you probably have decades more experience than I do Kaz, so, maybe I'm wrong to do this.

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« Reply #317 on: May 05, 2021, 03:14:16 PM »
Oh, I thought he was talking about the actual Yangmei plant received, and not the rootstock (californicus.) of the newly grafted plants.

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« Reply #318 on: May 05, 2021, 04:16:37 PM »
Oh, I thought he was talking about the actual Yangmei plant received, and not the rootstock (californicus.) of the newly grafted plants.

I think Simon was referring to the rootstock of the Yangmei plant, not the m. californica.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #319 on: May 05, 2021, 04:37:37 PM »
Hello, my plants are all still pliable and not dying back.  I am considering wrapping some of them entirely in buddy tape.  Just to seal in moisture and keep them going as long as possible.  I will wait one more week then inspect the roots on 1 plant to see if the tree is trying to come back.  They are being kept in the garage where the temperature is nearly always 70-80F and under weak grow lamp on 24/7
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #320 on: May 05, 2021, 05:30:59 PM »
I only have buds on BiQi. It is losing leaves but the branch stays green so far. Some buds seem to be swelling but not very sure yet. I did some grafting too. Too early to tell.

My setup is very primitive - a trash can with plastic cover. I open it up during the night and cover it during the day. Give it some spray a few times.




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« Reply #321 on: May 05, 2021, 05:45:47 PM »
Those buds look great, I think you're successful on keeping it alive!

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« Reply #322 on: May 05, 2021, 06:27:36 PM »
Thats looking promising!
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #323 on: May 05, 2021, 06:47:07 PM »
Simon, I would not have pinched off the only thing growing. Now your rootstock may not make it. If you left it alone at least you could see what type of rootstock they used if your Yangmei doesn't make it. I would wait until you see new bud growth on the original grafted branch before removing the rootstock buds.

The growth was coming from the rootstock of the Yangmei plants that we received from China. Iíve grafted many many plants as most forum members have seen from my various posts here and I highly recommend pinching back growths from the rootstock in order to focus the energy to the grafted scion which I want to push. Any energy given to the growth of the rootstock will equate to that much less available energy to the scion.

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« Reply #324 on: May 05, 2021, 07:34:00 PM »
I'm curious what the rootstocks of our plants are. One can assume yangmei, I guess. If our graft doesn't work on what we received... Maybe we will still get some yangmei if the root stock survives?

seller that the rootstocks are yangmei seedlings.