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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2021, 07:02:41 PM »
At the supermarket I shop at they sell 4 or 5 cultivars of citrus.   A price is shown for all varieties except one. Sumo never have a price listed.  Must be due to the high price that they sell for.  If people seen the price they would not buy them.

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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2021, 08:22:35 PM »
At the supermarket I shop at they sell 4 or 5 cultivars of citrus.   A price is shown for all varieties except one. Sumo never have a price listed.  Must be due to the high price that they sell for.  If people seen the price they would not buy them.

Millet what variety of oranges or other citrus is most compatible to graft sumo onto?  Assuming I use a grafted tree from the nursery on C35 with some other variety grafted already on it and graft onto the grafted portion?  Use another mandarin or ?
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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2021, 11:28:28 AM »
 Spaugh, C35 rootstock has good compatibility with all oranges, grapefruit and lemons except Eureka.   Compatibility with mandarins/ satsumas is complex and not well understood.  Nearly all mandarins/satsumas perform well for at least 10 to 15 years, but many eventually develop bud union crease and decline.  This decline is the same with many of the common rootstocks.  (Taken from  the Citrus Production Manual.)

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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2021, 06:22:26 PM »
my problem is I dont have rootstocks, I need to purchase some tree thats already grafted and graft onto some interstock. 

So which type of citrus would be best to graft sumo onto anyone?  Just get another mandarin tree?
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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 06:55:32 PM »
There are a few different rootstocks available for mandarins. The most popular are C-35, Carrizo, and Flying Dragon. C-35 and Carrizo are the standard tree size with C-35 being slightly smaller of the two. Flying Dragon is a semi-dwarf rootstock.

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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2021, 11:54:05 PM »
Although not about compatibility, I saw this post from behl: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=42683.msg426955#msg426955

I only started a couple grafts last year, but the healthiest are currently on a Honey stump & Gold Nugget tree, in-ground.  I tried a couple on Cara Cara, but the in-ground ones didn't take and the potted ones are a bit sluggish so far.  Since the in-ground Cara didn't take even though it had calloused and was looking good, I had pruned it by half already, so at least i have a rootstock sucker now to try again later.  You could also skip the interstock with a low bark graft.


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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2021, 11:31:57 PM »
Although not about compatibility, I saw this post from behl: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=42683.msg426955#msg426955

I only started a couple grafts last year, but the healthiest are currently on a Honey stump & Gold Nugget tree, in-ground.  I tried a couple on Cara Cara, but the in-ground ones didn't take and the potted ones are a bit sluggish so far.  Since the in-ground Cara didn't take even though it had calloused and was looking good, I had pruned it by half already, so at least i have a rootstock sucker now to try again later.  You could also skip the interstock with a low bark graft.


thanks for your knowledge and the past posts.  it sounds like any mandarin will be ok.  ill try and find one of the ones mentioned like tango or gold nugget on c35. 

thanks!
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Re: Costco Dekopon Sumo Citrus Marketing Fail
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2021, 01:33:05 AM »
Brad, don't use Tango it's not that vigorous or strong. Most of my Tango tree branches are skinny when compared to other mandarins I grow. But the Gold Nugget is a good one to use for interstock grafting. Gold Nugget grows fast (upward), strong branches and has many branches that are good sized, also gets a lot of fruit. I grafted my Sumo on sour orange, Gold Nugget, Kiyomi, lemon, Valentine pummelo, Cocktail grapefruit. Pretty much any mandarin,orange, grapefruit, pummelo interstock works fine. Just graft it on a variety that is as vigorous a grower as the Sumo.