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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #650 on: March 02, 2021, 05:33:56 PM »
After hundreds, if not over a thousand flowers, on 3 different seedlings and 1 grafted tree, all flowers have dropped with no fruit set. There are still a few straggler flowers hanging that bloomed later, maybe 10 in total, but they are not getting any bigger and I expect them to drop. The vast majority of flowers presented as female but there were 30 - 40 that presented as male flowers. I hand pollenated and there were plenty of bees working the trees for nearly a month. These trees are 8 years old and have fruited in the past when I hand pollenated using pollen from a male tree grown by a friend.
I had trees flower like that 3 years in a row before i finally got some fruit set. I didn't hand pollinate.
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« Reply #651 on: April 05, 2021, 06:54:28 AM »
My J33 jackfruit fell down as a cyclone brushed past an probably won't make it. A friend helped me chop down my giant siam starfruit also and I was looking for other volunteers for mulch patrol as some trees need to be cut from the team to make room for new additions. My big Luc's garcinia has been skating on thin ice for a long time and has had a few reprieves from death row. After seeing my 2 younger smaller ones burst into flower once again for an off season flowering, its fate was sealed. Suddenly this ass dragging 12 ft tree has burst into bloom a day or two before it was going to be chopped after 8 years. Nostradamus would be proud of this tree and I am glad I hung on a nit longer.

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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #652 on: April 05, 2021, 08:34:10 PM »
Trees in South Florida are blooming again. The buds started appearing over a month ago and the flowers started opening on 4/1. This time, I am calling in reinforcements. I acquired flowers from a friend's male tree and will be going back for more.  The current bloom is a little lighter than the previous bloom but there will still be hundreds of flowers.
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« Reply #653 on: April 06, 2021, 12:05:13 AM »
My J33 jackfruit fell down as a cyclone brushed past an probably won't make it. A friend helped me chop down my giant siam starfruit also and I was looking for other volunteers for mulch patrol as some trees need to be cut from the team to make room for new additions. My big Luc's garcinia has been skating on thin ice for a long time and has had a few reprieves from death row. After seeing my 2 younger smaller ones burst into flower once again for an off season flowering, its fate was sealed. Suddenly this ass dragging 12 ft tree has burst into bloom a day or two before it was going to be chopped after 8 years. Nostradamus would be proud of this tree and I am glad I hung on a nit longer.
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« Reply #654 on: April 06, 2021, 06:42:46 AM »
Raul you knew my trees when they were jus seeds and I would not thoughtlessly take to one with an axe. The defiant one has now been broken in so all is good.

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« Reply #655 on: April 11, 2021, 02:28:36 PM »
My J33 jackfruit fell down as a cyclone brushed past an probably won't make it. A friend helped me chop down my giant siam starfruit also and I was looking for other volunteers for mulch patrol as some trees need to be cut from the team to make room for new additions. My big Luc's garcinia has been skating on thin ice for a long time and has had a few reprieves from death row. After seeing my 2 younger smaller ones burst into flower once again for an off season flowering, its fate was sealed. Suddenly this ass dragging 12 ft tree has burst into bloom a day or two before it was going to be chopped after 8 years. Nostradamus would be proud of this tree and I am glad I hung on a nit longer.
Seems like when you give up all hope is when they flower and fruit?
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« Reply #656 on: April 11, 2021, 08:59:04 PM »
I agree with that statement. It seems that the tree is waiting for our hopelessness.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #658 on: April 14, 2021, 08:24:02 PM »
From 3 months ago. This is not going to get any bigger and will abort. Normally they abort in a month but sometimes two. At three months, this is a record holder for my yard.


Hand pollinated a week ago. With good pollination, they grow quick.

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« Reply #659 on: April 15, 2021, 07:49:33 AM »
I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.

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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #660 on: April 15, 2021, 08:10:44 AM »
Fruits on male trees are runts. That sucks that you got all males.  Time to top work two to female. Here is a pic of my fruit from last year.


I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #661 on: April 16, 2021, 05:21:28 AM »
I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
My experience here is that the bigger trees are males. The smallest tree fruited first.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #662 on: April 16, 2021, 04:00:56 PM »
I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
My experience here is that the bigger trees are males. The smallest tree fruited first.

If I understood right, male trees would make good rootstocks for female scions from Raul then?

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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #663 on: April 16, 2021, 04:33:51 PM »
In my small sampling, I kept the 5 fastest growing seedlings of the 30 seeds I planted and they all are female. I grafted male scions to larger potted seedlings to see if a larger rootstock(7gal, 3+ft tall) will work better than the slow growing previous grafts that I have done on smaller rootstocks (3gal 1.5 ft tall). Previous attempts were scions sent from Mexico and may not have been from vertical branches, which may be important for garcinias.
 
I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
My experience here is that the bigger trees are males. The smallest tree fruited first.

If I understood right, male trees would make good rootstocks for female scions from Raul then?
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #664 on: April 16, 2021, 05:11:51 PM »
I looked at the flowers on my 3 that are festooned with flowers right now.The two younger smaller 9 footers have flowered many times and only produce a few fruit not much bigger than achacha at the biggest. At this moment both of these trees have 96% male flowers and only a few fruit set. My big 13 foot tree has flowered for the first time now and all flowers so far are male although only a small proportion have opened.
My experience here is that the bigger trees are males. The smallest tree fruited first.

If I understood right, male trees would make good rootstocks for female scions from Raul then?
Yes indeed!
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #665 on: April 17, 2021, 12:24:39 PM »






These Lucís are on a female tree I got from Brandon.  I hand pollinated them with pollen from my big male tree, with a high % of take.  These are way,way bigger than the little occasional runt my male tree puts out.  At least I have a pollen factory of a male in my yard to get things done.  Too bad they are planted about 250 feet apart 😳


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« Reply #666 on: April 17, 2021, 12:35:47 PM »
This is my male tree - must be 15 ft tall. 

6ft human for scale ...




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« Reply #667 on: May 03, 2021, 09:13:33 PM »
Pollen from Sleepdoc's tree gets the job done. The flowers on my tree started opening at the beginning of April. I got my first batch of pollen on 4/3. In a month's time, the biggest of the first set of fruits are the size of small achachairu.   These two pictures are from the first of my trees to flower. This tree flowers like crazy.  It is in full sun.





This is from my second tree, just a few feet away from the first in full sun.


This is from a tree that I planted on the north side of a big keitt mango tree. To the east and directly over, there is a coconut palm. The west side is open so the tree gets full sun in the afternoon from April until maybe November. This tree is the biggest.


This is from a grafted tree that was grafted 8 or 9 years ago but is less than 4 ft tall. Maybe Jumbo.

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