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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Flying Dragon plant
« on: November 27, 2021, 11:18:40 PM »
Personally, I would prefer trees on other things than FD. Iíve found a semi-dwarf such as C-35 or Standard Trifoliate, or even US-942 are much better choices, even in containers. FD in containers tends to grow about 1.5ft and non stop fruit, rarely putting on any other foliage. So leaving the tree rather bare and to struggle a lot. Just my personal preference though. Trees on FD rootstock just grow so awfully slow!

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Flying Dragon plant
« on: November 25, 2021, 09:39:21 AM »
Tried messaging him and didn't respond, wanted to know if his flying dragon was true to seed or zygotic

Most FD are true, or mostly true to seed. Mine were seed grown of 6 years and fruit stands true.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Desert lime (Citrus glauca) seeds
« on: November 11, 2021, 06:54:15 AM »
CCPP has these? Iím about to order if they do. I didnít even check with them assuming itís not in the states. I attempted to go through the order process, but it comes to about $50 USD after tracking (and permits I guess) to ship out 20 seeds. Who knows if theyíre viable? I donít think I could take a chance at that price.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Desert lime (Citrus glauca) seeds
« on: November 10, 2021, 07:57:02 AM »
Iíve been searching for years, havenít found one yet.

This seems to be the only place I can find them, but from Australia so take it as you will. I havenít purchased from here before so I cannot say anything about them.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Kinzu/Hong Kong/Fortunella hindsii seeds
« on: November 08, 2021, 08:34:52 AM »
I still have around 40 seeds left if anyone is interested! 100% germination rate with the methods Iíve used.

Awesome, thank you for your input! I originally planned to use it as a main component in bonsai substrate. So I will likely use it as that, as well as citrus container mixes.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / ISO coffee
« on: November 02, 2021, 07:20:31 AM »
ISO coffee beans to sprout! I know I can buy them off ebay, but prefer to buy directly from people here!

I just wanted to run this by a few more knowledgeable people than I.. I wanted to use the remainder of my cherry stone grit in my citrus containers but wanted to ensure there wouldnít be drawbacks. It is made of granite stone, no larger than that of turface/smaller pea gravel. Since itís an igneous rock, I know it has a high mineral content, but they tend not to leach unless in powdered form. Correct me if Iím wrong here?

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Flying Dragon seeds
« on: October 31, 2021, 07:34:41 PM »
Currently sold out, will have more in maybe two months? Once fruits ripen fully.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Flying Dragon seeds
« on: October 29, 2021, 09:40:53 AM »
Got some fresh flying dragon seeds if anyone is interested.

15 seeds for $5, $4 for shipping.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Kinzu/Hong Kong/Fortunella hindsii seeds
« on: October 28, 2021, 08:45:33 PM »
Got an excess of seeds of the all ďrareĒ Kinzu Kumquat. Mine fruited in 1.5 years from seed (in less than favorable conditions). Said to be able to fruit in as little as 8 months. Great for bonsai.

12 fresh seeds for $5, $4 shipping to the US.

Iíve tested all these below:

Mars Hydro (1000w, and 2500w, 120w and 260w actual)
Sonofarm (1000w and 4000w, 100w and 440w actual)
Viparspectra (1000w, ? Actual)
Unitfarm (1000w, 60w actual)
Canagrow (300w bulb, 60w actual)
Sansi LED (70w actual)
Bloom Plus (1000w, 80w actual)
And various burple lights I would never touch again lol.

In my opinion, the best is sonofarm. Same quality as Mars Hydro, only cheaper. Plus a 5 year warranty? Canít beat it! Made with quality Samsung LM301Bís, plus genuine controllers.. It has fewer chips than the Mars, but run more power through each. A little lower power consumption overall, but very equivalent to Mars and runs around $100 less.

So sonofarm and Mars tie for output, but sonofarm sells them cheaper with a longer warranty. Viparspectra would be a good second place after the two tie, and bloom plus is not far behind (especially for the price). The brightness is definitely noticeable when comparing bloom plus to sonofarm, but quite similar to viparspectra. So due to the price point, Iíd rather buy 2 bloom plus for the same price of 1 viparspectra lol.

Unit farm would come in next, but it has more of a harsh white light to it than a warm full spectrum. Still grows my trees well! I use it for newly grafted trees as itís not so intense.

Sansi is my number 4, but when spending the money, Iíd rather buy panels. Sansi sells their 70w for $70, and bloom plus panel is around $45. Bloom plus has much better coverage. Canagrow makes a really nice high powered bulb if youíre just looking for something small. $25 canít beat that.

So anyway, sonofarm is my top (plus theyíre all dimmable) I plan to buy more panels to replace the others as my trees grow and I feel like investing. In the pic below, left two panels are both sonofarm, on the right far back is my 2500w Mars, and the other two are both bloom plus. Iím using the viparspectra and other Mars over my rooted cuttings. All in all, my actual draw is around 1000w TOTAL using everything I have plus two root mats and 3 ventilation fans. If you look closely, you can see the difference in brightness of the chips. Sonofarm I feel takes the crown over all. I will note that the Mars has been used last winter so brightness does deteriorate overtime.

I personally use sonofarm panels. Newer company, but great quality stuff. Otherwise for cheap lights I use bloom plus lights. Most of the cheaper ones all work the same with similar output. Iíve been testing lights for a few years now so if anyoneís interested I can do an actual breakdown of the on brand expensive stuff vs cheap knock offs.


Pic was a little cut off.

Thatís pretty resourceful! I grow my cuttings now in a rather controlled environment. Fan kicks on above 80F, heat mat kicks on under 80F. Has 100% success on everything Iíve tried so far, so trying my new methods with the harder to root stuff. Iíve got 90% success out of finger limes so far.. waiting to see for oranges and kumquats. And the Kinzu now!

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I tried to root them before from cuttings, but had little luck. You got yours from nuncar?

I just plugged around 30 to root this time around to see how it goes now that I have upgraded my equipment.

Now I am patiently waiting for mine to turn orange. How long did it take you? Mine set in August

I want to say mine took from mid July when it first pushed flowers till now to ripen. Not crazy long. 3-6 months I would say as some was mature before they turn orange as well.

Post some pics! I purchased mine from nuncar and this is what I got haha. So mine came true. Mine was rather cheap from there, ran around $25.

If people want on the list, just to see how many seeds I have to divide, send me a pm. Being thereís a lot that want the seeds I ask for shipping costs! I will send whole fruits. I have roughly 30-50 fruits. Some ripened, some not fully yet.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Australia Gering Up For HLB
« on: October 15, 2021, 08:07:38 AM »
I agree, I hope the finger lime comes in to save the industry. Iíve been following it for sometime now, the peptide looks very promising when looking at the actual data. Hopefully it performs just as well in the field. Weíll see in a few years. 

Neither, bud I've been told Procimequat is more lime like and actually had something to it, whereas Kinzu is basically just a seed or two with skin.

Yes, procimequat. I was lazy lol.


If anyone is looking for P-quat, woodlanders just sent me a nice little tree with 1 fruit on it. They still have them and are shipping this month only.


Starting to ripen. Definitely is Hong Kong.. should have seeds soon.

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