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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 16, 2021, 09:15:39 PM »

I got this mango from mangomen in homestead. Bright yellow on the outside I did not notice any smell to the outside (head cold). When I cut this mango open it revealed a yellow orange fiberless flesh with some viscous juice. The flesh texture was melting/creamy, it had a complex resin that reminded me of something between Venus and a mild sweet tart. The complex resin flavor was present throughout each bite. Pretty interesting mango.

Will cut open the seeds of nebula, Orion, mercurial marvel, and sunny and post when the husks dry out.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 16, 2021, 08:59:01 PM »

Picked this mango up from mangomen in homestead. Again caveat recovering from a head cold, but didnít notice a smell to the outside peel. Itís a canary yellow peel and when opened reveled a yellow orange fiberless flesh with some viscous juice. The mango is sweet with a very smooth melting flesh, I didnít notice any complex resin twist throughout this mango. Eating the flesh closest to the peel I got a peppery taste like that found in Edward.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 16, 2021, 08:45:00 PM »
Mercurial Marvel

I got this mango from mangomen in homestead. Imagine a lemon meringue thatís really, really, fibrous minus the meringue ÖÖ just look at the seed and you will see. Granted guava has some fiber but this is on another level, maybe a good juicing mango 🤷‍♂️


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 16, 2021, 08:34:36 PM »

Picked up this mango from mangomen. I am assuming itís name resembles the appearance of the mango which looks like a nebula! Pretty fitting name I must say. Iím just recovering from a head cold so I wasnít able to pick up any scent from the outside skin of the mango, though once cut open it reveled a bright yellow fiberless flesh with some viscous juice. The flesh was firm and some creamy texture. The flavor was tangy and sweet through and through with a lemony flavor resembling the lemon head candy. Closest to the skin I tasted some resin that reminded me of Fairchild. Overall I really enjoyed this mango.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 03, 2021, 11:28:47 AM »
Hey Syed,

Format is very helpful, and enjoy reading them. On glen aroma I totally agree, mango is beautiful in looks with strong aroma but the ones Iíve had that aroma doesnít translate to meaningful taste for some reason. Looking forward to Zill-0 review, I also heard from a friend that went to Zillís yesterday and picked up some Zill-21 which evidently he was told this is first year the tree has flowered.

One thing that may also be of interest to add in these reviews is comment on possible parentage. For ex ď I was at Zills and bought this new mango thatís supposedly a cross between Carrie and Valencia prideĒ we know this as Val-Carrie yes, and we can also see it evident in the look and taste. I think by adding parentage info people come to an idea in their mind what the flavor may resemble if having had any of the parents.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tough as nails pond apple.
« on: June 02, 2021, 09:50:19 AM »

Exploring the great outdoors today I came across this pond apple loaded with fruit and 10ft from the water in intracoastal. This is surprising to me because this is where mangroves are growing and itís closer to inlet than say a brackish canal.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tier Mango Reviews
« on: May 31, 2021, 09:49:02 AM »
A tip I can offer when opening up the husks is to let the seeds sit out on a plate in the kitchen for 3 to 5 days, the outer husk dries out and becomes somewhat brittle, while the embryo stays viable inside. After 3 to 5 days of drying out I take kitchen shears and trim along the thin edge and slide a spoon in and shuck that baby. If you attempt when seed husk is fresh you are risking an ER visit lol.

Just a thought but would be a good idea to add the posts under the current thread ď mango reviewsĒ to keep the info centrally consolidated. Brix is a great option but weight, length, high res pictures and seed mono/poly are objective info and very helpful, subjective taste reviews a bonus.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: May 29, 2021, 10:53:24 PM »
Rob, I agree with your description for 95% or better of Brewster fruits. As I mentioned above, occationally a tree will put out a few of these round fruits with a large round seed instead of the normal oval one. Strange things happen sometimes. One year we had a Brewster tree in our grove  that produced ALL chicken tongue seeds. We thought we had something special, but the next year it was back to normal and has been that way ever since. More pictures would clear this up.

Very interesting I was opining on this years crop off my sweetheart tree, very few seeds were chicken tongue while most were somewhere in between narrow on top round middle w shriveled tip. Two years ago almost every seed was thin and chicken tongue, tried germinating them and only got one to sprout which later died at a foot tall. This year I sowed probably ~50 seeds between a few 7 gallon pots so will see how many germinate. 🤷‍♂️


Just an obvious question which is sometimes overlooked....does it have a graft line? The newer pics confirm it isnít a cherilata, nor an atemoya.....  90% sure itís reticulata though could be the temoylata.


😅 so yea thereís no graft line so yep you are right Joe. Since I was first told atemoya I ignored the obvious. Thank you.

All good, if you can graft reticulata makes great rootstock for atemoya 👍 .

Just curious which atemoya were you hoping it to be?  I have a few diff ones going that I bought scions from guys on here most are grafted to reticulata some on soursop.


Just an obvious question which is sometimes overlooked....does it have a graft line? The newer pics confirm it isnít a cherilata, nor an atemoya.....  90% sure itís reticulata though could be the temoylata.


Same here, itís been a while since Iíve had white sapote, but I have been unable to track down abiu 🤷‍♂️


Hey Forum,

Looking to buy some fresh fruit of white sapote and or abiu to eat, any help with tracking these down is much appreciated.



This looks like a reticulata or possibly a temoylata as seanny suggested 48-18 ->

The tell is the short flowers as reticulata vs a geffner which are longer, also the glossy leaves as reticulata vs  geffner.



Picked the last off my tree today.... this year was totally about quality over quantity... large and sweet with coco nut water upfront rose finish. 😎

But it was bittersweet because while I was up in the canopy I discovered my tree has gotten erinose mite infection:

I pruned off all the infected branches I could find, gonna do some reading and figure out next steps which I think involves so sulfur spray 🙈🤷‍♂️

Will keep you guys posted on this.


Just curious if anyone has experience with minimum temps these Russellís garcinia can tolerate?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New dwarfing white sapote variety?
« on: May 18, 2021, 10:57:52 PM »

Not trying to cause any grief but looking at the branch angles of the tree I have a hard time believing that the tree has never had some form of pruning done 🤔. Regardless if the tree is in fact 50 yrs old it is incredibly small for white sapote.


It blows my mind how there are fruits found and first described here in this forum, aka lucís garcinia.

Hereís to it never stopping 🍻



Pic taken today, of my sweetheart.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Fruit Guide?
« on: May 14, 2021, 09:57:47 AM »
Try and Lara farms is shipping lychees ...I think I recall the Lara farms deal is 12$ per pound plus 10$ shipping (donít quote me on that)


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wildlife in your fruit trees ?
« on: May 13, 2021, 10:25:39 PM »

Out at night scoping annona flowers and in the sugar apple tree a lizard and butterfly catching some zzzzís with sugar apple flower in background.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: One Seed Loquat Fruit
« on: May 10, 2021, 08:54:44 AM »
I agree with the one seed idea, it would make eating them easier IMO. Last year I was eating fruit off my momís orange type tree (donít know the cultivar) and I got a one seeded fruit and had this same idea to see if I could fruit it and if fruits would have only one seed......ended up using it as rootstock though for the vista white scions you sent me Kaz ...

Good luck with this low seed count idea, I think a good a neat idea would be to do a small YouTube video opening up randomly selected fruits off your tree next year to show the seed count, would definitely watch that.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: May 08, 2021, 06:32:58 PM »
Joe, nice fruits, what type are they?

I think the side away from the sun usually will not have as much fruits as the side that get full direct sun. My large Brewster seems to have the most fruits on the south and west side and very little on the north side. My tree is large enough that nothing blocks the sun (branches above roof). My tree is only finishing with bees pollinating the flowers and some small fruits are visible on the panicles. Looks like I will have many fruits this year.

Interesting take as the side with least fruits is north side 🤔, this is sweet heart.


These peluche pics look incredible nice work!


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: May 08, 2021, 04:06:42 PM »
Just an update on my lychee tree as well as pics to preface this questions: 1) tree flowered like crazy though so many blooms seem to have dried out and aborted fruit? 2) why did half the tree set fruit?!?!

Hereís its ďgood sideĒ

1) notice the dried out panicles with no fruit set:

2) then this side by the road has only 1 or 2 fruit on it?!? 🤷‍♂️

Pics taken today,


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not Shan Eat Well yard tour 2021
« on: May 06, 2021, 08:31:37 AM »
Nice yard shane, my favorite is your multigrafted citrus tree, I canít image how lovely that must smell as citrus blooms are very high on my list of smells. If you ever want to consider selling just random seeds of some of the fruit Iíd like to buy them and gamble on growing them out, that whole tree is a hybrid breeding project in itself. Good luck with your kumquat cross experiment as well 👍


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