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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #350 on: May 09, 2021, 10:57:06 PM »
We are still very far from success but here are a few pictures that will at least keep our hopes alive. This first picture is the rootstock growth. Itís super tiny but at least itís something.


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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #351 on: May 09, 2021, 11:02:41 PM »
In that first picture, there are actually two growths from the rootstock.

And here are some pictures of my Biqi leafing out, I think.






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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #352 on: May 09, 2021, 11:04:36 PM »
Same Biqi, the growths are actually a lot smaller than they look. I tried to zoom in to get a better picture



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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #353 on: May 09, 2021, 11:07:00 PM »
These next few pictures are from my An Hai




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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #354 on: May 09, 2021, 11:10:20 PM »
More An Hai





The Donkui and Black peak both have buds but they have significantly fewer buds. My Biqi and An Hai seem to be doing the best so far.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #355 on: May 09, 2021, 11:48:03 PM »
Wow amazing growth! I'm wondering if your extra light Is getting yours pushing faster..

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #356 on: May 09, 2021, 11:55:54 PM »
Look great.
Mines are in the cold.
Yours heated?

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #357 on: May 10, 2021, 12:37:49 AM »
I keep my plants in my house, average temperature is about 75F. I kept them in pretty much ambient light, absolutely no direct sunlight. For the first week, I had the humidifier set to full blast to allow the wood to rehydrate but I had circulating air to prevent mold/fungal growth. After about 5-7 days, I dropped the humidity to 85% so that I can get the vapor pressure deficit where I want it. Iím keeping it at this humidity for the time being.

If the vapor pressure deficit is too low, it could make it more difficult for the new growth to push. Certain nutrients require some evaporation to pull the nutrients throughout the plant. Iím still trying to avoid direct sun as much as possible. Iím pretty much giving the Yangmei  Phalaenopsis orchid amount of light right now.

My wife wonít let me take pictures inside my cluttered house so I took them outside for the photo op. I almost dropped one of the plants so I probably wonít take any more pictures until I see significant growth.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #358 on: May 10, 2021, 12:42:41 AM »
Look great.
Mines are in the cold.
Yours heated?

I did put a seedling heat mat under my plants with the thermostat set to 75F but it never turned on because my house is around 75-80F so I ended up in plugging it.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #359 on: May 10, 2021, 12:26:53 PM »
Wow I canít believe Simon your trees are doing so well! This gives me hope. Thanks for sharing the pics and your expertise.

My Biqi looks the best with some buds (none are popping yet). Others have no leaves or obvious buds.




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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #360 on: May 10, 2021, 01:41:55 PM »
Wow I canít believe Simon your trees are doing so well! This gives me hope. Thanks for sharing the pics and your expertise.

My Biqi looks the best with some buds (none are popping yet). Others have no leaves or obvious buds.

Agreed, unreal progress on those Simon.

Mine are at the same spot, more or less. I see a bit of bud showing but it has not progressed much in the last few days. It's colder than usual right now so that will slow them down.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #361 on: May 11, 2021, 12:07:13 PM »
I plugged my seedling heat mat back in yesterday and this morning it did turn on because it got cold last night. Iím going to up the thermostat to 80F in hopes of accelerating root growth.

I donít see any roots coming out of the bottom of the drainage holes but I donít expect to see any roots for several weeks. Iím afraid that my plants are pushing leaves without sufficient feeder roots. If all the buds pop new leaves, it will require sufficient roots to pull up the necessary water and nutrients. By upping the temp of the roots, Iím hoping the roots will catch up to the shoots.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #362 on: May 11, 2021, 12:14:50 PM »
of all the pictures I've seen so far, An Hai and Bi Qui have the most growth.  Anyone seen any growth on Dong Kui or Black Peak beside Simon?
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #363 on: May 11, 2021, 01:31:10 PM »
of all the pictures I've seen so far, An Hai and Bi Qui have the most growth.  Anyone seen any growth on Dong Kui or Black Peak beside Simon?

I have the same tiny buds on all of mine now. None have progressed beyond the others, just a millimetre protruding from the grafts that was not there when I received them.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #364 on: May 11, 2021, 03:40:28 PM »
of all the pictures I've seen so far, An Hai and Bi Qui have the most growth.  Anyone seen any growth on Dong Kui or Black Peak beside Simon?


I am also seeing growth on my An Hai and Bi Qui but there is no growth yet on my black peak although they are still alive.  The worst of the lot for me are the Dong Kui, where all but one are dead above the graft union.



Bi Qui



An Hai

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #365 on: May 11, 2021, 04:08:50 PM »
of all the pictures I've seen so far, An Hai and Bi Qui have the most growth.  Anyone seen any growth on Dong Kui or Black Peak beside Simon?


I am also seeing growth on my An Hai and Bi Qui but there is no growth yet on my black peak although they are still alive.  The worst of the lot for me are the Dong Kui, where all but one are dead above the graft union.



Bi Qui



An Hai

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Richard, your trees are looking good so far. Hopefully the leaves will start popping on all our trees soon. I agree that the best growth is in the Biqi and An Hai.

My Black peak and Donkui only have a few small buds on them.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #366 on: May 11, 2021, 06:20:01 PM »
of all the pictures I've seen so far, An Hai and Bi Qui have the most growth.  Anyone seen any growth on Dong Kui or Black Peak beside Simon?


I am also seeing growth on my An Hai and Bi Qui but there is no growth yet on my black peak although they are still alive.  The worst of the lot for me are the Dong Kui, where all but one are dead above the graft union.



Bi Qui



An Hai

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they look really good. My Dongkui die back until the graft union. If the rootstock survives I hope to get a male plant. One black peak is probably dead.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #367 on: May 11, 2021, 06:23:35 PM »
For those who don't know, "Bi Qi" means "water chestnuts" in Chinese, referring to the similar dark color of the fruits - some also call it "black charcoal" Yangmei.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #368 on: May 11, 2021, 06:23:50 PM »
Well, the 2 dongkui I got all died above the graft so only have rootstocks now. The grafted part came looking good with green under the bark, but the wood had rotted and was brown so the tree looked alive but actually wasn't and eventually just shriveled up. Same with 1 of the rootstocks below graft. The other one looks slightly better because when I cut it back, the wood was healthy looking, so fingers crossed. Don't see any buds yet though.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #369 on: May 11, 2021, 08:08:27 PM »
My black peak died back to the rootstock and the biqi is now just a couple inches of scion. We'll see. Anhai and Donqui doing the best for sure.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #370 on: May 11, 2021, 09:46:34 PM »
Is everyone using good quality water. Iím using RO water. I read that they may be very sensitive to the chemicals in our city water.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #371 on: May 11, 2021, 09:53:24 PM »
RO water, only watered 2X so far.  Did the second watering a day or 2 ago with RO and 25ppm of 20-20-20 with micro. 
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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #372 on: May 11, 2021, 10:23:49 PM »
Rain water.
No buds today.

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #373 on: May 11, 2021, 11:02:15 PM »
So Far:

Dead:
   Grafts:
      An Hai
      3/4 Biqi
Green:
    Rootstocks w/ Original grafts: All, None pushing

Pushing:
  Grafts:
   Biqi
   Black Pearl (maybe)

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Re: Yangmei (Myrica Rubra) Group Order - trees all gone
« Reply #374 on: May 11, 2021, 11:04:50 PM »
I havenít needed to water yet after potting them since they are kept in high humidity. I will only water them when the pot feels light. I think at this stage itís best not to water until the potting mix is dry. Just like rooting cuttings - overwatering kills new roots easily
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