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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: December 06, 2021, 12:36:23 PM »
That Parfianka pomegranate looks amazing! Got to add that to my want list of fruit trees!
Sure does!  What a great, healthful fruit!

Non-astringent persimmons are just flavorless matter in my opinion.
Really?  I've never found them flavorless, but they're nothing like a soft persimmon.  Some people (my wife included) don't even like soft persimmons because they're turned off by the jelly-like texture.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: December 05, 2021, 01:17:58 PM »
Glad to see you all had a great tasting put on by Brad again concrats.
But please folks when referring to cherimoya names please give credit where credit is do Honey Heart is a name that some Nursery started naming after the true Honeyhart named by Orton Englehart now passed on but the person who came up with that variety!! Old time CRFGer and I'm surprised that folks keep confusing that name, give credit to rightful person please.
HONEYHART  Cherimoya registered with CRFG-27th Nov. 1976 by Orton H. Englehart
HoneyHART by EngleHART.  How dare they mess with that!  That's a crime.  I met Orton Englehart back in the 1970's, or rather I saw him running around, taking orders from his bossy little wife Ann, "Orton!, Orton!"  They grew the most delicious fruit, a wide variety, at their little ranch in the Escondido area.

Hey, SoFlo folks, are you inspired enough to make it (mango tasting) happen here next summer??

The worst experience of all: astringency in persimmons that aren't soft (except for the non-astringent type)!  The wateriness of avocados that are picked too early.

Do soursop seeds grow just as easily?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Prioritizing Fruit
« on: December 03, 2021, 08:56:30 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 30, 2021, 04:41:49 PM »
Paul you would have already needed to cut the fruit for it to be ready by Saturday I think. 

So it seems like the group is pretty small which is good, I dont want a big party this time.  Theres a lot of equipment and mess here with construction and parking is limited.  Please just bring yourselves this time, no guests and no new people this time sorry.  Several new people asked about coming, nothing personal I just dont want so many people this time.  Last time there were friends of friends and family of everyone and the UPS driver and his hot daughter :o and my brothers wifes aunts daughterinlaws sisters cousin once removed. Too many people, I didnt even get a chance to chill out and talk to most people that came.

We can do a huge party next time I promise.
Ok, gotcha.  No extravaganza.

Interesting. So do you guys know if the lowland  fruits taste as good as those grown in higher altitudes? And does white sapote trees grown in lowland tropics produce the same yield as the trees in the highlands? Thanks guys.
They probably taste better in a drier climate, like most fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya tasting /get together
« on: November 30, 2021, 09:51:32 AM »
This is turning into an extravaganza.  I can feel the excitement building.  Go, Team Cherimoya!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My coastal southern California garden
« on: November 29, 2021, 10:48:08 PM »
Thanks for sharing, Janet.  Bee-you-tee-ful!!

Do you have anything positive to offer this forum fishy, or are you just here to troll?
Peace, brother.  Happy Thanksgiving!

That is a great idea John. Exciting to think forward to mango season and meeting up. Overdue to visit Satya as well, hopefully he is around when the time is right.
"When the time is right" and the mangos are ripe!

I hope 2022 is another good year for mangos in SoFlo so we can have a mango tasting social for local members.  SoCal members shouldn't have all the fun.  If Satya's not traveling, he's cool with using his place across the canal from Greynolds Park, NMB.

if I have extra cherimoyas in december Ill send some to palm springs if you cordinate with me.
Now there's an offer you can't refuse!  How awesome of Brad!

Sprouts had USA grown cherimoya for $6.99 last week.
USA grown cherimoya is probably from the Santa Barbara area, & not hot-water treated.
Chilean grown cherimoya are still good, but since they're hot-water treated, not the best representation.
So I'd still give Sprouts in La Quinta and Whole Foods in Palm Desert a shot.  Whatta ya got to lose?  Wealthy folks in that area who I'm sure appreciate exotic gourmet items.  Call in advance.

In my "yout" in SoCal (like 40+ years ago), the cherimoyas you found in stores--primarily health/natural food stores--were often very good.  So seek out Whole Foods.  Dude, you get around!  I hope you like dates.  Coachella Valley is famous for dates.  There used to be some really great grapefruit, too, grown in those parts.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:44:54 AM »
That's true about original Hass tasting better than Fuerte.  My dad planted a Hass tree in the front yard in South Gate, CA, in the 1970's.  Boy, that fruit was outstanding!  Rich and nutty-flavored, not like the Mexican Hass found in supermarkets these days.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 20, 2021, 10:18:54 PM »
Did Fuerte fall out of favor years ago?  You don't hear any mention of it these days.  It was THE avocado back in the 60's and 70's.  I remember all the Fuerte trees in Fallbrook.  Is Bacon still grown?

Yes, it's too bad dwarfing rootstocks aren't used uniformly.  What a big difference that would make!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papayas without the vomit taste
« on: November 20, 2021, 09:31:37 AM »
I grew Red Lady several years back and found the flavor to be non-offensive, sweet, and good.  But it's an F1 hybrid so you can't use the seeds of your fruit to grow another plant with identical fruit.  Aloha Seed of El Centro, CA, sells the seeds.

I had a Neelam tree, but after the first year it fruited I removed the tree.  That's how bad the fruit tasted.  I really should have given it a few years to see if it improved, but I was anxious to get a replacement in the ground and growing, being limited in the number of trees I could plant.

There is this old post worth perusing.

It lists description of dwarf or compact mango varieties from other posts in the forum.
Thanks for finding this thread.  10 pages.  Wow!  The list seems to include varieties that can be kept compact through regular pruning.  Not all are naturally dwarf(ish) or semi-dwarf(ish).

The first three.  I don't anything about Juliette.  Neelam.  Amrapali. I think Honey Kiss and Little Gem can be kept semi-dwarf.  Piņa Colada?

You might try Garden Prince, which has the lowest chill requirement and is self-pollinating.  I would imagine the challenges would be the same as with peach trees as far as pests and diseases.  Are you growing any peach trees?  I know you're south of Orlando, but if I lived north of Orlando (outside of the Florida mango zone), I'd be trying lots of things, including nuts and olives.  Obviously, I don't know anything about the subject, just my thoughts.  The kind of thing that used to drive MIA Rob mad!

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