The Tropical Fruit Forum

“Dream annona” is that a green Annona squamosa?? What is called Green sugar apple in AU?

Cheers

Hey,
Have you seen the tree of this fruit?
Does it have hairy leafs like cempedak or non hairy like jackfruit.

I guess to get a correct answer you just have to bush walk in your area and see for yourself.

Here are some of my guidelines:

Usually you will find stands of fruit tree's with different age and not just a single one, a stand can cover many hundreds of square meters.
Usually the fruit trees are large since most have to receive sun to fruit properly. This makes it hard to ID trees since you can't just look at the leaf since it's 10-30m up. So you could be in an area with heaps of Marang for intance but not even know it bacause you can't id the tree's. Fallen leafs are sometimes hard to ID.

Around water courses such as slow rivers, water holes, edges of swamps there will usually be more edible fruits.
Where there has been a disturbance, landslide, cyclone etc there will usually be some fast growing pioneering fruit trees.

Research the native animal propulation to figure if tree's in the area are more evolved for birds then primates for example. In FNQ there's no primates like moneys so fruit here isn't evolved for that species. IMO evolved more for pigeons etc.

look out for old shelters, roads or past human habitation, I have found atleast 2, aproximately 20 year old loggers huts with rambutan and mango trees around in the FNQ moutain forest.

A few weeks wrong and you could miss the fruit or fallen flowers, so if you want to learn your area you gotta go bush walk very often initially, atleast if your close to the equator. Write in a diary when things fruit.

Peace

Mine Had about 15cm diameter stem 1m from soil before it produced a fruit to maturity.

Musang king and blackthorn are fashionable atm and I remember 10 years ago getting a seed to grow of a long laplae which is the most glamorous of all. This week I'll pick up some fresh long laplae flown in from Thailand. What are the chances of getting another seed of a seedless variety?

Hey Mike,
Where do you order the Fresh Thai Durian? and how much is it?
If it's not frozen then is it irradiated? Or do they just fly em in and hope it does not bring any new bugs???

Pink star apple out of stock.

You will be able to see on the undeside of the leafs if it is a greenskin variety. It wont be bronze gold it will be more like silver under the leaf.
But on the pink one the underside of the leafs are gold bronze like the purple type.




P.S Added. Sacha inchi.

Hey,
I prefer scoria over my local sand because when Scoria is formed lots of air is traped, scoria is almost like pummice but denser (they are both made from lava). So there will be quite a lot of small airpockets in the potting mix whith scoria. The sand does not do this since the sand parcitles are small and very dense.
Also the Scoria that I can source localy has decent paramagnetic force. https://www.britannica.com/science/paramagnetism

I do realise that Scoria can be ground into sand consistency but if it has that consistency then there won’t be much air space left. So 6-10mm graded scoria is good. Which is like roadbase gravel.

When I meant sand before i meant my local source of natural occuring sand that is mainly granite and quartz. This material has no air pockets in the grains.

Yes agree sometimes feed/livestock stores can have cheap bulk materials.

Shpaz, maybe there’s some raw material depots anywhere near you that sell bulk bags of pummice or scoria. Or maybe even by the Tonne if you need that much.

In FNQ I pay 100$ per m3 of Scoria. That is quite expensive because I live far from the quarry.
Pummice is aprox 40$ for 25L so I can’t afford that. 100L Perlite is 50$.
Some beaches here has pummice on them but I don’t want to grab that.

I only use perlite for tubes that I intend to ship to people, because it’s much lighter then scoria.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoria

Does anyone else measure EC of their potting mixes??
If people intend to buy premade mixes then it is good to buy a bag of a few types and then test with an EC meter and see which one is closest to 500 micro siemens or another value if you know specific EC desired for a specific crop.
When I buy manures i test them to see the “strenght”, 5000 micro siemens is good for chicken manure.
Some brands blend in so much compost or woodchips that their manures can be used as potting mix  and not manure fertiliser because they are more like 300-500 uS (0.3-0.5 mS) . Measuring helps to be consistent.

https://atlas-scientific.com/blog/how-does-electrical-conductivity-affect-plant-growth/

Looks like the yellow fleshed variety. But hard to tell.

Ackee is so delicious!!

I don’t recommend dealing with these forum users:

SaltwaterTx,
We agreed on a barter deal and I sent him superior Abiu seeds, he recived them and was happy because they germinated. He  never sent any seeds that he said he would, was menat to send Manilla Tamarind. I have messaged him many times but he has not responded. If anyone wants proof I am happy to message it.

JCJC
We agreed on a barter deal, I sent him Marang and Mangosteen seeds. He recived them and where happy. He was meant to send me Katmon seeds. He never sent anything and didn’t reply to any of my messages after he recived the seeds.

Rare Forest Plant also (rareforestplant.com),
This seller have repetedly sent me rotten and dead seeds. The last time i bought from this seller all the seeds where rooten and obviously very old. They had white mould on them in the packet and it was visable that the embry was rooten.
Most times around 50% are rooten and do not germinate. The seller have included replacement seeds before with other orders but they usually where no better than the original.
The seller refunded me for the last order which was good of the seller.
Even if I place an order very shortly after a seed was advertised they usually where delivered in bad condition. Shipping is 1-2 weeks. The last order shipping was only 1 week so I am quite sure seeds where sent in bad condition.
I urged the seller to send fresh seeds. I whould have hoped the seller would have told me the seeds are old because then I wouldn’t had bought and the wouldnt have to be a dispute.

Overall there has been a good experience for me bartering with people on the forum.

Peace

Copper oxy chloride works but it can be mutagenic and hurt sperm ( in fruit flys are high concentrations but ao could do that to humans too) so it’s advised to wear protective gear. Copper oxy chloride are sold under many different brands.

If you mention whats the active infredient in the branded products you mention its easier for us to assist with recommendations.

And as Peter said you can use Boreaux mix. Calcium hydroxide and copper sulphate.
You can also use calcium oxide if you cant find hydroxide but when you mix Ca oxide with wate rit will get really hot and create CaHydroxide anyway, but the hear helps to mix the two.
I think calcium carbonate works too but in Italy I have seen them use Calcium hydroxide, often time Cahydroxide is sold in finer powder so easier to get even mix with copper sulphate.

There should be Bordeaux mixes to buy.

Ohhh nice!

Was it vigourous or did it require a but of care to get it grow and fruit well?