The Tropical Fruit Forum

Wayne Clifton is a really cool guy. One of the nicest people I've ever met. He does a lot of things that I wish I could be doing, and I'm a little bit jealous.

I got to visit him last Sunday for a short time. He has a very nice collection of trees, and good varieties of fruit. His two dream cherimoya trees are impressive, and I got the impression that they are vigorous and productive fruiters.

Among all of Wayne's generosities that day, I was happiest to receive a dream cherimoya from his tree. I drove home with a big grin on my face.



I'll make sure to report back here on how it tastes once it ripens. I'll be excited to know what kind of fruit I could expect from my tree.

Quote from: Coconut on September 04, 2014, 09:41:46 AM

Quote from: fruithunter on September 04, 2014, 08:50:31 AM

I went to malaysia for one week to seek for some excellent fruit there. For me, It tastes not so juicy as nomal malaysia one but very sweet, the texture is firmer.

Rock for shit & giggle I bought some seeds during the debate on it awhile back.  After two years it did fruit, it taste sweet to the scammer that sold me the seeds.  None of my seeds ever sprout, they rotted quickly Dorgon it!

Can you take the seeds home to Taiwan and grow it and let us know so we can bury this issues of Japanese mangosteen fruiting from seeds in two years to rest so I can bury my tears of being fruit traumatize?

Yes, I took some seeds back. I don't believe they can fruit in two years from seeds but someone told me that grafted one can bear fruit in two years. Let's wait for two years, haha.

Your seedlings look a lot like my Japanese mangosteen seedlings. Sorry to disappoint the haters but I bought my seeds from Dorgon.


I honestly thought my money was gone when I purchased these seeds from him so hastily, and then read all the bad things about him. Though soon after purchasing my worries were placated. He has some of the best customer service I have ever come across, especially considering his main language probably isn't English. Seeds took two weeks to get to me, but were immaculately packaged. They were perfectly cleaned, 80% were already germinated and sprouting. They were the best looking seeds I've ever purchased online.

I know this seems pretty controversial, but this is my experience with him. I can't speak on how he did business before, but this is what I personally know of him. I've bought and received seeds from him again so it's not a fluke. I also can't say for sure that the seeds he sells are the exact variety he says they are, it's a leap of faith but I'm a believer. I can attest that he is at least sending the right species, and that he is a master at shipping viable seeds.

I have no affiliation with Dorgon. I honestly don't care whether or not you believe me. In fact I liked the idea of no one buying from him, so his prices stay low and his availability stays high. That's better for me. However I feel like he doesn't deserve all the hate and bad mouthing he receives, so I will stand up for him.

Stuart they look normal to me.  Yes when seeds are young they display all kind of variances based upon the environment; once they reach the two year stages, you can thereof extrapolate the genetic distinction; but to prophecy their mutation is to early.  I waited till the fourth year before I realize this four year old LUCANGOSTEEN in the Aeropot is a natural Dwarf, everyone one in the Aeropot is five to six feet for the fourth year class. I found fruit tree grow fast in aeropot, I copy it from Excalibur when I go up there to see shat exotic new stuff they manage to bring in from Richard trip to South East Asia. Here four year old dwarf next to a yearling in the same airpruning pot. They explode in third year.




Here is a two & half year in ground & shade about four feet



So you have to wait a little to see what lottery winning in genetic you have, its a number game.  I learn in breeding to grow multi years seed crop from many random sources to discover a gem to create a breeding line.  It take a lot of courage to have the patience to wait for results.

On your whitman, please add a super diluted feed like age urine of two weeks; the soursop seedling feed more than the squamosa.  Mine 23 whitman is plant in trial already.   

With best regard,
Jack

Hello there coconut. Have you tried the mexican garcinia yet? I'd like to hear from more people other than luc on how it tastes.

So during my trip to the keys and south Florida I was searching for places to buy grafted mamoncillo varieties. I didn't get a chance to stop at top tropicals during my trip. I'll visit them another time in the next couple of weeks.

There are mamoncillo trees everywhere in key west, yet surprisingly there were no fruit tree nurseries in the keys. Also during my two days in key west I didn't find anyone selling the fruit anywhere. I only picked them off the trees or the ground, they were decent.

All the nurseries in south Florida were sold out of genip trees, except for one that i visited. I won't name the nursery, but they had terrible fruit which they claimed was a certain popular cultivar. They were very sour, with a large seed with scant flesh. It was unbelievable they were grafting from these trees in large scale, I saw all their nicely grafted trees.

This kind of fed my skepticism more with toptropicals. I see whether intentional or not, trees are being mislabeled and sold as something else. Also someone was willing to go through a lot of trouble to propagate something that was not worth the effort.

I was hoping forum member Cookie Monster would have been able to help me out. I believe he has had grafted mamoncillo trees in the past at his nursery. However I never got a response from any of my messages, and I still have not heard from him.

I'd like to have seeds shipped to me. I'd also buy olivaeformis seeds.

It's genip season here in Florida and the Caribbean, but I guess it might be the wrong season in the southern hemisphere for these. Let me know either way if you have access to them and usually buy them when they are in season.

Here is my collection of mail order fruit providers, I included video reviews of the top ones.

What a tease...

Well shah I will have to try these wampee and langsat fruits. The langsat seems popular so I'm assuming it's pretty good. Here's hoping they are in season and carrying it at my local asian farmers market.

 I'm quite fond of guenepa, and I am more interested in Talisia from a collectors standpoint.

I managed to find a website apparently offering oliviformis seeds. http://www.especiesseeds.com/servlet/the-975/Talisia-oliviformis--dsh--EDIBLE/Detail

I ordered some,  but I'm not getting my hopes up on these. Something is bound to go wrong whether it is customs, getting the wrong species, or getting dead seeds. I figure it's worth a try, it's not easy to find and they are at least cheap.