The Tropical Fruit Forum

It is common to find meyer lemon sold as rooted cuttings, but it could be grafted. 

My meyer lemon appears to be a rooted cutting, I am thinking of grafting it onto Flying Dragon and getting rid of the original plant.  I don't need a ton of lemons.

What is the problem of lemon as rooted cutting? Is the tree too big, or root is too weak?

@EricSC, Do you use regular dish washing soap or a specific insecticidal soap?

Malhar,

I do have insecticidal soap, but for convenience I just used kitchen dish washing detergent (the one "environment friendly" bought from Costco) . It worked well, but you may adjust and test when temperature are different.   Last summer, It did not work to the aphids on my egg plant but damaged the eggplant leaves.

"Whether I add a emulsifier or not I frequently shake the solution to ensure a uniform blend."

I think thats an essential step, add the oil and some water to a jar, shake with lid on to produce a white oil, then add to spray tank and fill to spray level.

Nozzles are important too,  very fine low volume nozzles will give good coverage of foliage with low amount of spray applied.

Oil sprays will burn Citrus leaves at the wrong time in hot climates and under plastic houses.

Very valuable info.  Thanks.

For a complete elimination of insects listed below, and for ultra safe personal protection, use a good horticultural oil.  It eliminates most all common insects that attack citrus. Can be sprayed between 32F to 90F.  Insects NEVER become immune, no matter how often or how long horticultural sprays are used.  Be sure to keep ingredients (water & oil) blended while spraying

Insects killed:
Rust mite, red spider mite, scales, white fly, thrips, mealy bug, aphids, Greasy spot, loosening of sooty mold.

Now all the bugs waked up and come back.   

In use Horticultural oil, I found that it could damage leaves on some plants.   At the same time, the dish detergent can work the same way but much less damages.

My questions are:
1, Will horticultural oil or veg oil deter the CLM moths to lay eggs?
2, Will the soap water or detergent water kill the CLM moths?

Will the Amazon insect net work the same way?  If so, the tree can stay outdoor.   

sc4001992,

So from my reading, the ones without necks taste about the same as those with necks? 

Brian, I don't know much about the breeding either. But I think what they are saying is there were three different origin of the sumo. One was submitted from China (who said it was a sumo from Japan, could have been a seedling ?), and other one was from Brazil (don't know how they got it, or where), the last one is the true variety that you buy from the market, it came from Japan but not commercially available to buy any budwood from CCPP. Sunkist/Suntreat owns the patent rights and will not just let anyone grow it. They select growers here in CA to plant/produce the sumo for market.

If you live in FL, you can buy a Shiranui Mandarin Tree at $49.99 now.   The fruits on the pic looks those sold in store.

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The Shiranui is a Japanese mandarin hybrid between a Ponkan tangerine and a Kiyomi tangor. Its fruit is large, very sweet and produces no seeds making it a highly desirable fresh fruit variety.

Although officially known as Shiranui in Japan, this mandarin variety has been trademarked as both ‘Dekopon’ and ‘Sumo’. In Korea it is called ‘Hallabong’ and in Brazil it is called ‘Kinsei’. No matter what you call it, the Shiranui can be recognized by its large protruding bump on the top of the fruit, which is ripe in early spring to early summer.

Parentage: Ponkan tangerine x Kiyomi tangor
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sc4001992，

When do you usually finish picking up gold nugget.  My reading is, the alternative bearing is related many things.  One of the key factor is how long that you let the fruits hanging on the tree.

The issue is: if you let the fruits hanging on the tree longer, they will taste better (up to June).   But that will minimizes the spring blooming so get into alternative bearing.   If you finish picking in Feb, it can probably be avoided but the fruits will taste about average.

sc4001992，

Last week, I picked up the third Sumo fruits.   It is about the same sweet as other manderine.  No seeds.  I guess I will need to wait for a couple of more weeks to pick the last two left on tree.

For Sumo and Ponkan, which one do you prefer based on your accessment?

One time I bought some (I guess is some sort of Murcott) from a local store.   They have thin skin, bright orange/red color, sticks to flesh, many seeds, very sweet like honey.  To eat it, you will have to cut them into pieces.  Very messy to eat them.

Remembered Millet mentioned that there is not much difference between a grafted Meyer and a rooted cutting.  I noticed those Meyer lemon plants sold at HD look like rooted cutting (with no graft union)
Since Meyer is easy to root, will it be a good rootstock?  I have a few of cuttings rooted in last year which I am thinking to graft some buds on them.
Do you know or had experience of using Mayer lemon as rootstocks?
1, Plants can grow vigorously
2, Fruit bearing and taste
3, Disease resistance

Is Thong Dee pomelo ready to pick up?  How do you rank it?