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What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« on: February 06, 2012, 02:55:55 PM »
The thread which discussed the best books reminded me about the South American Sapote, which Mr Whitman like-he said tasted like melon. Does anyone know what happened to that?  :)

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 05:38:43 PM »
it never blew over, at least that how his book reads!  Other stuff got worked during Andrew(1992), but that one handled it.

They have a nice one at fruit and spice, in the greenhouse near North side of park, its around 15ft or so If I remember right...maybe bigger...I didn't pay much attention to it, but Chris Rollins was proud to point it out I could tell...so it must be a bit difficult to grow or source I assume.



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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 08:14:17 PM »
thank you- i have never been to the fruit n spice park-ill have to take a trip down

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 03:12:42 PM »
Matisia cordata is great, but needs selection of good cultivars. There's a huge genetic variation down the Amazon basin ;)

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 03:22:58 PM »
Matisia cordata is great, but needs selection of good cultivars. There's a huge genetic variation down the Amazon basin ;)

That was Bills problem with tree...not enough flavor...I think u r most certainly right!

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 05:18:14 PM »
Some I tasted, specially the big and round ones, were very insipid and watery. Others were exquisite, which I would include in my top 5, dead or alife  ;D

BTW Adam, what freaking animal is it this time??








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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 07:53:42 PM »
Matisia cordata is great, but needs selection of good cultivars. There's a huge genetic variation down the Amazon basin ;)


Agreed. But there are some few selections available already. No doubt more selections would be better. If you get a good one they taste like canteloupe and are totally fiberless. This is a very popular fruit in Colombia, sold in the markets, where it is just called sapote.
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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »


BTW Adam, what freaking animal is it this time??


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HAHA! Purple Frog!!

I like this little guy...looks like a weird seal...I love how it's face looks!

Thanks for noticing!

It will keep changing!


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Nice pics! How big is your sapote tree?


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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 10:16:39 PM »
Those fruits are unfortunately not from my trees, but from experimental station. I have a couple of trees but they have been struggling to grow. The rose beetles really like them and the leaves end up looking like colanders. Here is a shot of a medium aged tree at exp. station. Yes, they get quite large:


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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 11:41:40 AM »
Great pics Oscar! Matisia gets pretty big. As I said, the round fruit used to be more insipid, while the smaller ones was the best, which tasted like a mix of cantaloupe and mango. I should have taken some budwood when I had the chance  :(

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 05:39:41 PM »
Great pics Oscar! Matisia gets pretty big. As I said, the round fruit used to be more insipid, while the smaller ones was the best, which tasted like a mix of cantaloupe and mango. I should have taken some budwood when I had the chance  :(


Hi Felipe, where did you get to taste the Matisia cordata? Were those photos taken in Colombia?
The seeds of this species is very bizzare when you remove the outer coat here is what they look like when they start to sprout:

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2012, 07:45:12 PM »
Is that a real seed?   Looks like gross anatomy class!

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 09:59:03 PM »
Yes that is a real seed!
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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 11:28:31 PM »
Oscar, I got to taste them in the Peruvian Amazon, in a place called Pucallpa.

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 01:46:36 AM »
Yes that is a real seed!
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(obviously) looks like the human brain

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Re: What ever Happened to Whitman's South American Sapote
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 04:10:52 PM »
Yes that is a real seed!
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(obviously) looks like the human brain


Proof that the brain is really a seed:

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