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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made a grafting knife!
« on: December 12, 2021, 12:15:15 PM »
I was using disposable snap off box cutter blades but felt bad throwing so many away, they are deathly sharp when new.

Where did you dispose them? Recyclers will get cut sorting things out, landfill will have the wild dogs limping with wound feet.

Sapote, the proper practice for this sort of thing is to have a sharps container. A glass jar or plastic bottle you put all your spent blades, needles and such then seal it with a top before disposal

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My coastal southern California garden
« on: December 01, 2021, 12:08:24 PM »
What a homie little garden. I think many of us strive to have orderly little orchards and your food forest is just perfect

Unfortunately I came home today to find my Valencia Pride which was just starting to turn yellow the other day when I left had split on the tree. Luckily it seems to be close to ripe so I covered the split with a bandaid and put it in a paper bag with bananas hopefully I'm a few days it will have a little give and I can enjoy my first properly grown mango!

Reason for the split? I'm guessing it may well be the hot and dry Santa Ana winds we've been having. At the end of summer I switched my irrigation timer from every 4 days to every 7 going off on Sunday. I imagine the hot dry winds this week changed the ETO drastically I should have irrigated a little sooner. But if anyone has any other theories let me know

For the flower and veggie mix they specifically say it is safe for food growing. But that doesn't appear on the outdoor indoor (which seems better suited to fruit trees). Is the outdoor indoor still food safe?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Backyard Garden in So Cal
« on: November 02, 2021, 12:54:14 AM »
In theory if one is so concerned with the cleanliness of their hardscape it could be hosed down once a week and some would permeate into the soil and the pavers would act like mulch. But maybe only the top inch of soil would wet from that action.

The last flush of growth on my Valencia Pride has started showing yellow between veins. It was looking healthy before. I would usually spray with Southern AG spray as it looks like mag, zinc, iron deficiency.

However, I still have fruit hanging on the tree. Should I just spray after harvest, or should I throw down my iron sulfur pellets which I would usually do around this time but I've heard not to fertilize the tree when nearing harvest.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 31, 2021, 01:21:51 PM »
I have a pottery studio at home so I am week versed in the dangers of silica and the respiratory tract. I also have wollastonite but would rather stick with actual ferta. My soil test did not give me silica levels, bit it was a basic one done through my local water/ soil district. I doubt I am low on silica though, just thinking adding as additional.

Good input Brad, I am just being impatient. I did have success when an upright flush started flopping by tying it up and once the growth hardened off I untied and it remained upright.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 30, 2021, 06:04:31 PM »
I do have a ph tester and will adjust ph up or down to slightly acidic which is common practice in hydroponic gardening, but not generally considered for common gardening.

Thanks for the feed back as I should test run it on one of my less valuable trees before application overall

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 30, 2021, 04:37:22 PM »
Hi all,

I have noticed on my trees and from comments on mango trees in socal that droopiness of the trees (grafted in particular) can be quite an issue, heavy blooms and fruits causing newwer shoots to drop down. I was remembering that in cannabis growing silica is often added to increase the branch strength as heavy yields can commonly snap branches leading to a ruined crop. I have had success with silica in this regard.

I did some quick Google search and found this article
Which summary says the same qualities are applicable to fruit trees. Stronger branches, better resistance to extreme Temperatures.

Has anyone tried this before? I believe I will begin giving it a go. Right now I'm in a cycle where growth will flush three times and the longer it gets the more it wants to droop. Then it blooms and requires all kinds of tying to support upright growth

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: weird looking Imam Pasand
« on: October 28, 2021, 02:45:05 PM »
I have often had small fruits which develop this dual fruit charactaristic but they have all aborted. Sometimes they will make up up to 50% of fruit set. I have wondered what has caused this

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: October 27, 2021, 02:56:57 PM »
Wow! That looks marvelous!

Much appreciated Tony! I would be interested in seeds and seedlings!

Interesting that your Maha was done before others. I was under the impression Maha was a very late season tree.

My Valencia looks like it has a at least a couple more weeks on the tree.

Hey Tony,

Reading through previous posts researching Valencia prides I have several times encountered people mentioning a coconut flavor to them. My fruit is still hanging on the tree and ripening here in Riverside (just starting to get red blush but no yellow yet) and ai am very excited to taste what I hope is a proper Valencia Pride and not the more stunted fruit I harvested in prior years.

As an aside, if you have any spare NDM or Maha seeds I'd love to take them off your hands!

Those bastards!

I witnessed an opossum hustling through my yard the other day and thankfully staying away from my mango tree. Perhaps mangos aren't common enough here to be a target for them... Yet

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango trees
« on: October 13, 2021, 02:09:32 PM »
Pm sent

Awesome looking canopies!

There is definitely a difference in a bay area roasting and inland empire roasting.

Johnny, that is a good point about the feeder roots. I have seen healthy large trees in small areas but perhaps they are not as productive. However, I have to work with what I've got

On south side of the house I have a 4.5' wide concrete walk between the house and a cinder block wall which I could cut 3x3 tree wells into. I'm just worried about them getting roasted during our window of intense summers.

That said, I see many trees with southern exposure doing well.

If I were to flip, suggestions on fruit trees for north exposure? Was thinking cherimoya and coffee

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango placement opinion, Riverside California
« on: October 02, 2021, 09:13:38 PM »
Hi all, today I broke up concrete adjacent to my home as it was not really functional, and I would prefer less concrete and more trees.

This results in a planter bed 3.5' wide and 17' long (I will remove the the rest once gas company verifies line). The area is on the north east side of my home so trees recieve morning sun and afternoon shade in summer, until they grow into the sun. I think this will work well based on mango in trees around here (and that mango trees I planted in the full inland sun require shade cloth to grow well.)

I have seen several very mature mango trees planted right next to homes and walls with no structural damage and feel comfortable planting this close to my raised foundation, is this something I should second guess?

Plants are spaced 8' on center  in photo, from left to right 7' tall manilla seedling, 4' tall grafted Mallika, 5' tall multi branch espada seedling. Does this seem appropriate for socal?

Soil is clay/sand and will remain so with top few inches removed from the concrete replaced with amended soil, and then several inches of mulch to bring level with driveway. Iron/ sulfur and gypsum will be showed to soak in over our (hopefully) rainy season.

Anything I am overlooking? Thanks

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB polyembryonic mango seeds
« on: October 02, 2021, 03:47:57 PM »
Hi all, I know the Florida season is over but the CA season is starting to wrap up and I'm hoping to get some good polyembryonic mango seeds I can grow into trees for myself and not graft.

Would very much like lemon zest, sweet tart, nam doc Mai, Kensington pride and r2e2 (I'm aware people don't have a high opinion of them) or any other variety that tastes good and is a good growing plant.

Will pay shipping and per seed.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« on: September 18, 2021, 08:07:59 PM »
Hey guys, I'm curious if Valencia Pride is usually this late in the season for SoCal. My tree didn't set fruit the first two flowerings this year due to what seems like bad water management on my part. A little cold snap later in the season cause a little bit of flowering and it hung on to one fruit with my revised watering schedule.

But this fruit is on the tree and no hint of yellow to it this far. I'm not complaining just wondering if it is typical.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Small Red Ivory mango tree fruiting
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:54:09 AM »
Wow, they are growing slow, but growing!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« on: September 15, 2021, 01:35:27 PM »
Thanks for the in depth reply, I will give it a go next year and hope your new scheduling makes a better crop!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a stupid question?
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:17:53 PM »

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