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Perhaps Organocide Plant Doctor, or similar Potassium Phosphite.

Thank you Har.  Will give Monterey GardenPhos a try.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane Juicer
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:40:52 AM »
How fast do these canes grow?  Do they send rhizomes everywhere just like running bamboos?

I love sugar cane juice.  I always bought it fresh squeeze from street vendor when I was in Thailand.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:22:05 AM »
the cambium layer is there right below the bark.  I think theres cambium tissue on the bark and the wood when you do this and it should give maximum cambium contact area. 

but I could have it all wrong and it may end up being a big fail.  Time will tell.  Someone with more knowledge could give us better insight on this.

I am not at all an expert on grafting.  Just good enough to get lucky sometimes with the avocados.  they are definitely not as easy as some other types of trees. 

if the scion and rootstocks are the same or close in diameter I do a cleft and match one side really well instead of this type of graft.

Sounds good.  Please give an update on this method.

Perhaps a systemic disease, coming up from soggy soil?

This is happening to most of my 20 inch tall, 50+ seedlings inside the greenhouse. So you do not think it is powdery mildew, correct?

Any systematic fungicide/bacteriacide do you recommend?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:03:34 AM »
the peoples republic of california also granted me permission to burn an acre of brush.  So I did.  This will become a new block of trees.  Will have it planted out by summer. 

I love "the people's republic of California" and the walking zombie... ha ha

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:00:22 AM »
Brad, so you only peeled off the bark? There is no need to cut into the flesh? 

What I did was cut into the flesh at maybe 1/3 of the trunk thickness and slipped the scion in.  It only work 30% of the time. 

From now on I will follow your method.  Will this method work on citrus too?


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 19, 2022, 08:24:58 PM »
Mishandling of the packages does happen.  I am sure customers in Texas would understand.  Thank you for being a valuable member to the community.

Har, what disease/nutrient deficiencies on the mango leaves? Pictures show top of the canopy and bottom of the leaves.  Thank you

Hi ,you can use a clone rootstock. It can control the graft part growth

Procedures please.  Interesting concept

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: January 07, 2022, 12:57:44 AM »
It's like mid 60s here.
Thank you for looking my place up and the advice.  Will graft a couple more avos tomorrow since the scion buds I have are really plump and swollen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: January 06, 2022, 05:27:54 PM »
Yes they will flower but they will also make leaves and push new stems.  Yes remove flowers on any tree that is too small too hold fruit. IE just grafted this year. 

For me it gets too hot here in March and April so its better to graft now.  If you live somewhere cooler, you have more flexibility in when you choose to graft your avocados.

Thank you. I grafted a couple seedlings in mid November and now the buds are starting to come alive.  I read your posts on avo grafting s along with illustrated pictures.  They are very helpful.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: January 06, 2022, 12:05:54 AM »
i started top working the rootstock trees this week.  Ive decided to do mostly hass, reed, and sharwil trees.  Also a few nabals and a couple other odd ball trees but those 3 are the main ones Im propogating. 

I took some pics, the bud wood on some varieties is super swollen right now.  looks awesome.  Im super stoked, the trees were just fruits hanging on the tree one year ago and now after 6 months in ground I am already top working! yay

Brad, “super swollen buds” make great candidate for grafting?
 Would they not be more likely flower buds(swollen)at this time of the year? 
If they make a great candidate for grafting and the grafts took, should all pushing flowers be trimmed off?  Thank you for helping out with the clarifications.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Are these Sumo tangerines
« on: December 20, 2021, 11:57:01 PM »
It looks like sumo to me. How was the taste, was it sweet with some acid/tartness so maybe a 7/10 in sweetness?

Kiyomi doesn't usually have the large bump/neck, and has pebbly outer skin.

Yeah sweetness could be rated around 7/10 with a few seeds.  I think I picked them early since the fruits are not completely turn full orange color.
I picked them while staying at a resort in Indio, closes to UC Riverside.  All citrus trees were huge, must be 10+ years old.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Urea Spray
« on: December 20, 2021, 11:43:27 PM »
Tomorrow is December 15, which is two and a half months before citrus flowering.  Therefore, tomorrow is the day to spay the foliage with the first urea spray to induce a better bloom, thus a better crop.  I did not spray last year and the crop was less than usual.

Millet, most of my tangerines, and navel are still hanging on the trees.  Could I spray the trees with LB urea? 
From what I read on the net, spraying the trees with nitrogen with turn the fruits more acidic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can this annona be identified?
« on: December 15, 2021, 10:38:26 PM »
Thank you. Will try to germinate the seeds. 

Should I germinate them now or wait until spring?
How long the seed stay viable?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can this annona be identified?
« on: December 14, 2021, 12:37:32 AM »
Taste bland not so sweet...

Use sulfur spray for powdery mildew.

In your opinion, is sulfur spray better?  Never use sulfur.  Does it dissolve in water?

Gerrberaric Acid does increase internode on mango. I used it on my seedlings and the internodes between leaves are very long.  The stems are quite thin from stretching.

Citrus General Discussion / Are these Sumo tangerines
« on: December 07, 2021, 09:51:10 PM »
We went to a resort in Indio, Ca, last weekend.  They grow lots of citrus varieties there and all full of fruits.   All trees are very big and I would say are all 10+ years old.  Medium thick skin, easy peel, with almost seedless.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 27, 2021, 07:37:50 PM »
whats the marvel avocado?  is that the south african one?  is that a patent protected one or something that is available to grow?

I've got a few mature size trees but most of my stuff is small seedlings I planted in the ground that need to be grafted.  Ive got around 125 new trees to top work in January.  Im doing things a little different and growing zutano and bacon seeds in ground then top working.  I'm only going to end up with around 200 avocado trees total.  Maybe 250.  So its not a big planting.  Just something to make a little side money from.  We don't have water service.  Its all coming from a 4in well.  So I can't get too crazy with the plantings.  we have around 3 acres of different trees.  About half is going to be avocados. 

I've got a grafted experimental tree Im trialing here that may be a winner.  The fruits are super good and no one else has them.  Its a seedling tree from a friend.  Ill have to get permission to propogate or sell it but it seems like it may be a real winner.  It will be several years before I can really pass judgement on it though.

I'm growing pretty much every kind of avocado I can get my hands on here.  I've found most of them to be not worth growing for various reasons.  Same with dragonfruit.  Tried them all, most are not worth growing.

Brad, the fruit looks very beautiful. The skin turns dark when ripe just like haas?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 22, 2021, 10:08:25 PM »
Jason by the way, the hass here alternate every year.  An alternating season every other year is ok if its reliable.  It seems to be pretty reliable they make a big load every 2 years. 

Sharwil and reed on the other hand can alternate and get on a 2 or 3 year interval.  And they make less fruit and grow slower.  So you can see the cost per fruit to the grower is much higher compared to hass.  I can put the sharwils and reeds on 12ft space though where hass is on 18ft. 

Lamb and gem alternate less than the rest but even they still can alternate a bit.  Those are the 2 stud trees for high density planting and heavy production.  They are probably good for selling to a resturaunt but for individual buyer they just arent the A grade fruits.

Brad, why Lamb and Gem are considered B grades to you?   Majority of people seem to like them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango leaves trouble shoot
« on: November 08, 2021, 02:08:09 AM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango leaves trouble shoot
« on: November 06, 2021, 02:47:17 AM »
Can someone tell me what is wrong with the mango leaves? TIA

Kocide (Copper Hydroxide) fungicide/bactericide works mainly as a preventive, when sprayed before symptoms appear.  It has been used on mango trees
in conventional agriculture since at least the 1970's, usually tank-mixed with mancozeb/Manzate.  Mancozeb now gets a lot of bad press from California.

Thank you Har.  So can I spray my tree as often as I want to, regarding diseases prevention?
If diseases start to appear, what products would you recommend? I am new to mango.

Har, is kocide3000 good to use on mango trees?  Can it be use as preventive or only use when disease symptoms appear? I live close to the beach, fog and high humidity are very common. Thank you

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