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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #625 on: August 24, 2021, 12:21:40 PM »
I usually remove the entire old panicles and there is usually an intercalation there where there are multiple buds. I just cut right below the old bloom spikes, often cutting some buds, but itís perfectly fine.

Sometimes my second blooms open in the rains or the weather is still very cold and I sometimes remove the second blooms early on to induce a later third bloom.

For Lemon Zest which is highly susceptible to Powdery Mildew, the first blooms are definitely no good for me at my location so I always remove them. The second blooms will sometimes set fruit but the third blooms set the most full sized fruit.

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« Reply #626 on: August 24, 2021, 12:28:04 PM »
I donít want to over complicate things but I do want to mention that sometimes letting nature take its course will work out. For LZ, if you let the first blooms naturally dry up and fall off, it takes longer for the second bloom to initiate so the time frame for these naturally occurring second blooms without gardener intervention will closely match the timeline of the third blooms if the gardener clipped the first and second blooms.

You just have to look at the weather forecast, the health of your tree and keeps close eye on rains, cold weather and the fungal pressures around the time BEFORE the blooms open.

If youíre using any fungicide, you should treat the trees and neighboring trees prior to the blooms opening.

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #627 on: August 24, 2021, 02:47:50 PM »
In addition to what Simon said, one can pick the timing based on other more reliable varieties, such as Peach Cobbler and Lancetilla. These trees tend to have late flowering, in April or so, but LZ flower too early. So next year, I will wait until PC and Lancetilla have flowers then let LZ holding its own flowers.

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #628 on: September 14, 2021, 07:13:50 PM »
Just a quick update on my Sweet Tart Mango Tree. Only (3) fruit made it without major cracking issues in 2021. I picked one fruit three days ago and let it ripened off the tree. Just ate it today. Fantastic tasting mango even if it was slightly on the overripe side. Deep orange color with a rich and complex taste, juicy. I did not detect any tartness likely due to the overripeness but never the less it was a great tasting mango. I could eat these all day. This and the Indian Grown Alphonso tie as the best tasting mangos I have had. Now I can see why this cultivar is hyped and mine was not even likely at peak flavor. A great mango indeed. I hope for a better crop in 2022. I applied some calcium to the root system of my tree and hopefully, this will help next year.

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« Reply #629 on: September 14, 2021, 09:10:56 PM »
Awesome to hear Johnny! You propogsting those seeds or could you send them my way? Haha

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #630 on: September 15, 2021, 10:58:31 AM »
Hey Victoria,

Unfortunately, the Sweet Tart seeds are not viable. Underdeveloped embryo. Actually, I was lucky to get any fruit this year considering the poor pollination in early spring. Changing my micronutrient application for all of my mango trees and as previously mentioned pulling early flowers off my ST next year. If I can ever get this tree to consistently produce this tree would be worth its weight in gold for me.

If I was growing from seed good candidates are Cac, Seacrest, and Guava. All three grow fast at my coastal location and would even do better in your area. I would contact some of our Florida mango munching friends in June-July next year to see if you can get some seeds. I would get at least 6-8 of each and select the best one or two for planting in the ground.

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #631 on: September 15, 2021, 01:35:27 PM »
Thanks for the in depth reply, I will give it a go next year and hope your new scheduling makes a better crop!

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #632 on: September 15, 2021, 02:53:10 PM »
When would planting in the ground be best for seedling grown mangoes?

Would you prep the soil with anything or just go ahead an plant?

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #633 on: September 15, 2021, 06:01:58 PM »
If i manage to get a seed from the few mangoes that produced this year, should i plant it in ground right away, even though winter is just around the corner?

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #634 on: September 15, 2021, 07:02:35 PM »
👍 I am curious too. I just planted some sweet tart seeds in the ground and they are starting to sprout now. I am planning to cover them in the winter. Thanks.

If i manage to get a seed from the few mangoes that produced this year, should i plant it in ground right away, even though winter is just around the corner?

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #635 on: September 15, 2021, 09:01:20 PM »
The best time to start growing Mango Seedlings is April-June in SoCal based on my experience. I usually start them in 5-gallon pots. Move them up to seven-gallon containers a year later. Never tried to start mango seeds this late in the season. We are heading into the cool months soon and growth will stop by late November. Not sure how they will work for you. Pots are easier as you can move the small plants inside if necessary to keep them warm during the coldest periods. Greenhouses are better yet. Let us know how they work out. Hopefully, you will have some survivors. 

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #636 on: September 16, 2021, 03:43:17 PM »
When would planting in the ground be best for seedling grown mangoes?

Would you prep the soil with anything or just go ahead an plant?

My favorite time is June to mid September when night temp is 60F and above.  Favorite location for SoCal: Eastern side of the structure that will provide shade in the hot afternoon.
I planted the seeds directly on ground without even bending my back: place the seed (not de-hushed) on top of soil, cover it with 3" layer of leaves to keep the seed from drying out and the sun (in nature the falling seeds grow in the bush or thick much of leaves). Water the pile every day until 4" shoot appeared, then cut down to once per week. This direct in ground way save me from dealing with transplanting the long tap root seedlings, and I'm lazy.

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #637 on: September 16, 2021, 04:27:14 PM »
When would planting in the ground be best for seedling grown mangoes?

Would you prep the soil with anything or just go ahead an plant?

My favorite time is June to mid September when night temp is 60F and above.  Favorite location for SoCal: Eastern side of the structure that will provide shade in the hot afternoon.
I planted the seeds directly on ground without even bending my back: place the seed (not de-hushed) on top of soil, cover it with 3" layer of leaves to keep the seed from drying out and the sun (in nature the falling seeds grow in the bush or thick much of leaves). Water the pile every day until 4" shoot appeared, then cut down to once per week. This direct in ground way save me from dealing with transplanting the long tap root seedlings, and I'm lazy.
The best time to start growing Mango Seedlings is April-June in SoCal based on my experience. I usually start them in 5-gallon pots. Move them up to seven-gallon containers a year later. Never tried to start mango seeds this late in the season. We are heading into the cool months soon and growth will stop by late November. Not sure how they will work for you. Pots are easier as you can move the small plants inside if necessary to keep them warm during the coldest periods. Greenhouses are better yet. Let us know how they work out. Hopefully, you will have some survivors. 

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Would a seed taken from a ripe fruit at the end of september be viable until june or should i just risk planting it as soon as possible and baby it through winter?

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Re: Growing Mango trees in Southern California
« Reply #638 on: September 16, 2021, 05:28:39 PM »
All the one's I have are in 1 gallon right now. I have only one in a 5 gallon.

How sensitive are mangoes when it comes to transplanting them from container to soil?