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Indian Mangoes in Florida
« on: October 30, 2018, 11:36:34 AM »
Hi all,

I'd love to know what Indian mango varieties are people growing in South Florida.  I imagine that a lot of people are growing Alphonso, Mallika, Allumpur Baneshan and Neelam but what else is growing here?? - and what other varieties do well here?  I want to add to my little collection, and I would love to have some suggestions.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 12:44:57 PM »
Hi all,

I'd love to know what Indian mango varieties are people growing in South Florida.  I imagine that a lot of people are growing Alphonso, Mallika, Allumpur Baneshan and Neelam but what else is growing here?? - and what other varieties do well here?  I want to add to my little collection, and I would love to have some suggestions.  Thanks!

Alphonso does not do well in Florida. I had a tree but yanked it out after 3 years. I have Kesar, which does great and produces well. I have Himsagar as well, which is even more productive but perhaps not as good as the Kesar. I have planted Son Pari as well, but the tree is yet to produce. Have heard great reviews about the mango and its productivity.

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 02:15:38 PM »
Hi all,

I'd love to know what Indian mango varieties are people growing in South Florida.  I imagine that a lot of people are growing Alphonso, Mallika, Allumpur Baneshan and Neelam but what else is growing here?? - and what other varieties do well here?  I want to add to my little collection, and I would love to have some suggestions.  Thanks!

Alphonso does not do well in Florida. I had a tree but yanked it out after 3 years. I have Kesar, which does great and produces well. I have Himsagar as well, which is even more productive but perhaps not as good as the Kesar. I have planted Son Pari as well, but the tree is yet to produce. Have heard great reviews about the mango and its productivity.

I got the chance to taste Son Pari this past summer, and I really enjoyed it.  I recall it being "lighter" than Alphonso and having a very nice traditional flavor and texture.  I have a small tree planted as well, and am really looking forward to tasting it again.

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Re: Indian Mangoes in Florida
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 02:53:19 PM »
Amrapali is mega dwarf and excellent flavor if you can find it. It shared first place in a mango tasting at one of the local fruit clubs.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 06:49:00 PM »
Amrapali is mega dwarf and excellent flavor if you can find it. It shared first place in a mango tasting at one of the local fruit clubs.

Sounds like a must-have variety. Where can I get an Amrapali?

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 12:51:48 AM »
Oscar and JF have Amrapali.  I got scions from Oscar.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 06:20:06 AM »

Alphonso does not do well in Florida. .

Is that the consensus?  I have one that’s not doing well, I thought it might be because deer keep attacking it. I just gave up on a small Edward and yanked it, maybe it’s time to yank this Alphonso also? 
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 08:49:33 AM »

Yes, the verdict is out on that one: Alphonso does not do well in Florida.  Kesar does well. Productive and very clean mangoes.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 07:14:13 PM »
My Alphonso does well enough for me. I enjoy the fruit.

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Re: Indian Mangoes in Florida
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 04:07:52 PM »
We’re growing these “common” Indian varieties:
Alampur Baneshan, which may be the same as Iman Passand in the US
Alphonso
Iman Passand
Kesar
Mallika
Neelam
Paheri - the Jamaican ‘Bombay’
Sonpari

And these less-common ones (at least here):

Ambika
Ameeri
Amini
Amrapali
Arka Neelkiran
As lul moquarar
Borsha - might fruit for first time
Dasheri
Gilas
“Himsagar” - brought from India by Ron Hensley in 90s, not the Himsagar of West Bengal
Janardhan Passand
Jehangir
Jumbo Kesar - May not actually be jumbo
Langra Benarasi (?) - not the same as in India
Mahmood Vikarabad
Malda
Panchadara Kalassa
Pedda Rassam
Prince
Royal Special
Rumani - really nice fruit and seems to do well here
Sey Pasala
Shamsul Asamar
Sindhu
Suvarnarheka (Sundari)
Totapuri/Bangalora/Sandersha - lousy ripe. We sell it green
Vanraj
White Alphonso

Some of the older varieties are particularly interesting.....stuff like Amini, Amiri, Borsha . Plus “newer” like Sindhu and Ambika and the ones from Lucknow like As lul muquarar....Though I’m not optimistic about getting the north/central Indian varieties to flower consistently in south Florida.

« Last Edit: January 27, 2019, 04:26:55 PM by Squam256 »

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 05:22:28 PM »
We’re growing these “common” Indian varieties:
Alampur Baneshan, which may be the same as Iman Passand in the US
Alphonso
Iman Passand
Kesar
Mallika
Neelam
Paheri - the Jamaican ‘Bombay’
Sonpari

And these less-common ones (at least here):

Ambika
Ameeri
Amini
Amrapali
Arka Neelkiran
As lul moquarar
Borsha - might fruit for first time
Dasheri
Gilas
“Himsagar” - brought from India by Ron Hensley in 90s, not the Himsagar of West Bengal
Janardhan Passand
Jehangir
Jumbo Kesar - May not actually be jumbo
Langra Benarasi (?) - not the same as in India
Mahmood Vikarabad
Malda
Panchadara Kalassa
Pedda Rassam
Prince
Royal Special
Rumani - really nice fruit and seems to do well here
Sey Pasala
Shamsul Asamar
Sindhu
Suvarnarheka (Sundari)
Totapuri/Bangalora/Sandersha - lousy ripe. We sell it green
Vanraj
White Alphonso

Some of the older varieties are particularly interesting.....stuff like Amini, Amiri, Borsha . Plus “newer” like Sindhu and Ambika and the ones from Lucknow like As lul muquarar....Though I’m not optimistic about getting the north/central Indian varieties to flower consistently in south Florida.

Squam256,

Have you had Manohar?  I believe it's a Chaunsa seedling, and I'm hoping it fares better in South Florida than its mother.  I've not been able to find any info at all on the web.  I've also got high hopes for Vanraj, but that one's a bit of a mystery as well.

Best regards,
Scott 

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Re: Indian Mangoes in Florida
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 07:38:47 PM »
We’re growing these “common” Indian varieties:
Alampur Baneshan, which may be the same as Iman Passand in the US
Alphonso
Iman Passand
Kesar
Mallika
Neelam
Paheri - the Jamaican ‘Bombay’
Sonpari

And these less-common ones (at least here):

Ambika
Ameeri
Amini
Amrapali
Arka Neelkiran
As lul moquarar
Borsha - might fruit for first time
Dasheri
Gilas
“Himsagar” - brought from India by Ron Hensley in 90s, not the Himsagar of West Bengal
Janardhan Passand
Jehangir
Jumbo Kesar - May not actually be jumbo
Langra Benarasi (?) - not the same as in India
Mahmood Vikarabad
Malda
Panchadara Kalassa
Pedda Rassam
Prince
Royal Special
Rumani - really nice fruit and seems to do well here
Sey Pasala
Shamsul Asamar
Sindhu
Suvarnarheka (Sundari)
Totapuri/Bangalora/Sandersha - lousy ripe. We sell it green
Vanraj
White Alphonso

Some of the older varieties are particularly interesting.....stuff like Amini, Amiri, Borsha . Plus “newer” like Sindhu and Ambika and the ones from Lucknow like As lul muquarar....Though I’m not optimistic about getting the north/central Indian varieties to flower consistently in south Florida.

Squam256,

Have you had Manohar?  I believe it's a Chaunsa seedling, and I'm hoping it fares better in South Florida than its mother.  I've not been able to find any info at all on the web.  I've also got high hopes for Vanraj, but that one's a bit of a mystery as well.

Best regards,
Scott

No I’ve not had Manohar yet but would like to try it.

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Re: Indian Mangoes in Florida
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 12:18:29 AM »
Squam256., Alampoor benishan and Imam pasand are different varieties, and these all varieties are hybrids and NOT true to seed, u should plant budded or grafted plants... ???
some of the true to seeds varieties are , Priyoor,Olor,Moovandan,Chandrakkaran ...are basically from Kerala, excellent varieties...

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 01:08:37 AM »
Squam256., Alampoor benishan and Imam pasand are different varieties, and these all varieties are hybrids and NOT true to seed, u should plant budded or grafted plants... ???
some of the true to seeds varieties are , Priyoor,Olor,Moovandan,Chandrakkaran ...are basically from Kerala, excellent varieties...

I am well aware that they are different varieties in India. I said “in the US”, what we have under the two names may be only one of them

And all the trees I grow are grafted.


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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 01:43:36 AM »
Alex..... Of the Indian varieties you have tasted which ones haven't got a turpentine edge to them ??????   Mike

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2019, 09:39:06 AM »
Alex..... Of the Indian varieties you have tasted which ones haven't got a turpentine edge to them ??????   Mike

Rumani and Mallika. Rumani’s flavor is similar to Edward; mallika, when properly ripened, has an orange-citrus flavor like Lemon Zest. Unfortunately Mallika appears heavily prone to bacterial black spot.

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 12:03:47 PM »
My Iman Passand looks like Alampur Baneshan,flesh color is light if that is also a clue.
For florida folks should try Kerala varieties in our humid conditions might be best bet?
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2019, 03:10:01 PM »
My Iman Passand looks like Alampur Baneshan,flesh color is light if that is also a clue.
For florida folks should try Kerala varieties in our humid conditions might be best bet?

In addition to having identical leaves and growth habit, The fruit on one of the “Iman Passand” trees we had (since topworked over) also cracked like “Alampur Baneshan”  ;).
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2019, 06:50:41 PM »
Well I do like the sweetness flavor of my [Alampur Baneshan].
I like to know about Sonpari

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2019, 07:00:10 PM »
Well I do like the sweetness flavor of my [Alampur Baneshan].
I like to know about Sonpari

Sonpari is fantastic and very productive. But sadly, highly prone to bacterial black spot. We lost most of the fruit on the tree to it last year. :(

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2019, 08:42:08 PM »
Squam256., Alampoor benishan and Imam pasand are different varieties, and these all varieties are hybrids and NOT true to seed, u should plant budded or grafted plants... ???
some of the true to seeds varieties are , Priyoor,Olor,Moovandan,Chandrakkaran ...are basically from Kerala, excellent varieties...

Ajesh, maybe I can get some seeds of Priyoor, Olor, Moovandan and Chandrakkaran when I come down to Kerala?  Do you know any place where I can get budwood of these varieties?

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2019, 08:44:20 PM »


Alampur Baneshan and Imam Pasand leaves.  They look quite different to me, but neither have fruited yet.  Maybe I'm just hoping they are different....  What does everyone else think???  The leaf on the right is Alampur Baneshan, and the left is Imam Pasand.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2019, 10:20:45 PM »


Alampur Baneshan and Imam Pasand leaves.  They look quite different to me, but neither have fruited yet.  Maybe I'm just hoping they are different....  What does everyone else think???  The leaf on the right is Alampur Baneshan, and the left is Imam Pasand.

Have these trees both fruited?

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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2019, 05:44:28 AM »


Alampur Baneshan and Imam Pasand leaves.  They look quite different to me, but neither have fruited yet.  Maybe I'm just hoping they are different....  What does everyone else think???  The leaf on the right is Alampur Baneshan, and the left is Imam Pasand.

Have these trees both fruited?

Hi Alex,

Not yet.  I'm hoping for something this year but our warm winter has really seems to have affected my trees.  Not a single bloom yet :-(

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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2019, 10:42:46 AM »
dear mangokothiyan, on ur next visit to Kerala, please go to Kerala Agricultural University sales counter, lot of North India and South Indian mango variety graft plants are available there...

 

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