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Title: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on December 02, 2016, 09:52:02 AM
(https://s17.postimg.cc/eja4dtol7/IMG_1998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eja4dtol7/)

Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: sildanani on December 02, 2016, 10:05:38 AM
Where'd you get your seeds from?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on December 02, 2016, 10:41:45 AM
I bought them like that as seen on the picture from Exotica in Vista, CA. They are a bit bigger now after about 10 days of having them.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: HoangNguyen on December 02, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
(https://s17.postimg.cc/eja4dtol7/IMG_1998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eja4dtol7/)

Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.


http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21922.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21922.0)
I can grow Giant Granadilla in San Jose, CA (NorCal).   You can definitely grow Sweet Granadilla in SoCal.  Check out the link above.

Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: onur on December 02, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
(https://s17.postimg.cc/eja4dtol7/IMG_1998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eja4dtol7/)

Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.

They look healthy! Did you pre-treat the seeds before planting like scarifying?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on December 02, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
I didnt grow them from seed. I bought them like that.  I brought them inside my house and placed them in front of a window facing the south as it seems its going to be constantly in the 40s from here on out.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: onur on December 03, 2016, 08:24:16 AM
I didnt grow them from seed. I bought them like that.  I brought them inside my house and placed them in front of a window facing the south as it seems its going to be constantly in the 40s from here on out.

Do you know anybody selling them by any chance? I'd love to have at least one...
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on December 03, 2016, 09:50:56 AM
I got them from here

https://www.yelp.com/biz/exotica-rare-fruit-nursery-vista (https://www.yelp.com/biz/exotica-rare-fruit-nursery-vista)

Maybe you can call them and see if they do mail shipping.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on April 10, 2018, 05:35:09 PM
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Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.

Reviving an old thread. I bought fresh fruits last fall and sprouted seeds recently. Did you get them to flower and fruit? I vaguely remember ppl say it's hard to get sweet granadilla to flower. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on April 10, 2018, 05:56:51 PM
The best environment for P. ligularis appears to be semi-coastal SoCal in the shade.  So if you let it grow up (in the shade of) a big tree like an avocado or white sapote is ideal.  It's really wind sensitive and frost sensitive, but relatively drought tolerant.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Schutzhund on April 10, 2018, 07:24:48 PM
I'm growing some vines here in the Los Angeles Area and they're doing fine, they were grown from seed
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Bananaizme on April 10, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
 I remember Ben Poirier in Fallbrook growing them at his place. Iím not sure if he still sells the vines or not youíd have to call him to see .

William
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on April 11, 2018, 06:38:51 PM
https://garden.org/plants/view/126609/Sweet-Granadilla-Passiflora-ligularis/

I'm growing some vines here in the Los Angeles Area and they're doing fine, they were grown from seed

Did it ever flower for you? I'm getting a little pessimistic that when I asked around, people who grow seedlings never got it to flower let alone fruit. Apparently not suitable for our climate.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: fyliu on April 11, 2018, 07:02:34 PM
It does fruit in LA. The fresh fruits first became available last year in LA, so most of the seedling growers wouldn't be getting flowers just yet, except for a few like barath and the guy that fruited it in LA.

I'm sure there'll be lots of people fruiting it from seed in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on April 11, 2018, 07:41:08 PM

(https://s14.postimg.cc/fiuhxhme5/IMG_3760.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fiuhxhme5/)

Picture from March 13. Still growing. About 3-4 feet tall right now.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on April 11, 2018, 08:35:41 PM
It does fruit in LA. The fresh fruits first became available last year in LA, so most of the seedling growers wouldn't be getting flowers just yet, except for a few like barath and the guy that fruited it in LA.

I'm sure there'll be lots of people fruiting it from seed in a couple of years.

Apparently much more difficult than P. Edulis. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on April 11, 2018, 09:43:30 PM
https://garden.org/plants/view/126609/Sweet-Granadilla-Passiflora-ligularis/

I'm growing some vines here in the Los Angeles Area and they're doing fine, they were grown from seed

Did it ever flower for you? I'm getting a little pessimistic that when I asked around, people who grow seedlings never got it to flower let alone fruit. Apparently not suitable for our climate.

I got it to flower a few years back, but never set fruit.  But this was on a windy rooftop garden in the East Bay, which isn't an ideal microclimate for it. A decade back there were posts on Cloudforest from people who were fruiting it in Coastal Orange County.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on April 12, 2018, 12:51:48 AM
What about pollinators?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on July 19, 2019, 08:43:12 PM
Has anyone had any luck? My vines are still growing strong, still no flowers.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on July 19, 2019, 10:48:49 PM
Has anyone had any luck? My vines are still growing strong, still no flowers.

You might give it some Sul-Po-Mag and also some P, and withhold Nitrogen.  They also seem to really hate dry winds, so on windy days you might spray them down.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: camerony on November 20, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
(https://s17.postimg.cc/eja4dtol7/IMG_1998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eja4dtol7/)

Just wondering if there is anyone out there in Southern California that has had success with Passiflora ligularis - Sweet granadilla. Just purchased a couple of them and any hints or tips on growing them would be appreciated. I have done a search about it but most results came back with negative results and most people saying it will not grow well in SoCal.

How are your plants doing?  I'm looking to buy some vines, but curious if they've survived in SoCal.  Have they flowered?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: BrizzyFizzy on March 01, 2020, 10:26:48 PM
Hi All,

Is there any word on cross-pollination for Passiflora ligularis?  Mr. Google has many mixed results.  I have 8 vines in 100L bags on the fence of my chicken run in Brisbane, Australia.

Cheers,
Christian
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 25, 2020, 12:22:39 PM
Iím curious as well. I only have one that survived and itís about to flower.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on April 26, 2020, 03:05:53 AM
In a Passiflora biological taxonomy document I read a few years ago, they grouped it into the Passiflora "Super-Section Laurifolia / Series Tiliifolia", which would maybe suggest that those in the same Super-Section and/or Series would make for the best cross pollinators.  Looking through the list of Passiflora species in that Super-Section, these are the ones that are more commonly known:

P. gabrielliana
P. laurifolia
P. nigradenia
P. nitida
P. tolimana
P. venusta
P. alata
P. phoenicea
P. quadrangularis
P. maliformis
P. serrulata
P. triloba
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: alangr088 on April 28, 2020, 05:40:47 PM
Yes. The Ligularis are still alive and growing. I saw a flower in late February maybe? I did not take a picture of it because i figured it was finally going to continue to flower but that was the only one i saw, I haven't seen any other flowers since that one time . I recently just saw the first flowers on my Frederick a couple of days ago so I will check later today to see if I see any flowers at the top of my pergola for the Ligularis.   
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 29, 2020, 03:36:22 PM
In a Passiflora biological taxonomy document I read a few years ago, they grouped it into the Passiflora "Super-Section Laurifolia / Series Tiliifolia", which would maybe suggest that those in the same Super-Section and/or Series would make for the best cross pollinators.  Looking through the list of Passiflora species in that Super-Section, these are the ones that are more commonly known:

P. gabrielliana
P. laurifolia
P. nigradenia
P. nitida
P. tolimana
P. venusta
P. alata
P. phoenicea
P. quadrangularis
P. maliformis
P. serrulata
P. triloba

Thanks barath. I'll look around. My alata expired last year unfortunately. I've also been told that Frederick should work and i have that flowering too, so will give it a shot.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on May 13, 2020, 08:37:38 PM
It does fruit in LA. The fresh fruits first became available last year in LA, so most of the seedling growers wouldn't be getting flowers just yet, except for a few like barath and the guy that fruited it in LA.

I'm sure there'll be lots of people fruiting it from seed in a couple of years.

Have we heard of any success yet?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on May 16, 2020, 12:29:03 PM
Mine has been throwing a couple flowers every night for just over a week. Iím getting fruit set with ĎConstance elliotí


(https://i.postimg.cc/1gqPYMLk/73264-A94-AB3-E-4-B19-99-C2-E2914408-BEBA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1gqPYMLk)

And less consistently with ĎFrederickĎ

(https://i.postimg.cc/NLPJ5Yyx/8446-BD67-60-A5-4116-9-E0-E-888-E9-BC352-CA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLPJ5Yyx)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: funlul on May 20, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
Mine has been throwing a couple flowers every night for just over a week. Iím getting fruit set with ĎConstance elliotí
And less consistently with ĎFrederickĎ

Amazing! Have you observed any fruit setting without cross pollination?
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on May 20, 2020, 05:27:11 PM
No fruit w/o cross-pollination, nor with actinia or sidifolia. The last flower i think was yesterday and i did a self on that. It looks like i'm going to end up with about a dozen fruit. Crossing fingers for seeds/pulp.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on June 05, 2020, 05:30:42 PM
update:

Self hand pollination

(https://i.postimg.cc/DmF4xYM7/0597-C672-CA47-4825-8-D59-2-FDD545-C8871.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmF4xYM7)

Frederick
(https://i.postimg.cc/RqR6yQkK/74-EAEDAD-E126-4406-99-EF-91352-A29-E599.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqR6yQkK)

Constance Elliot
(https://i.postimg.cc/njKjHvC8/F06-FF368-01-BF-4-A62-8-ADF-65-E839-F73753.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njKjHvC8)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ScottR on June 05, 2020, 06:59:18 PM
Cool Shane, thanks for update on pollination report!
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on June 24, 2020, 12:53:39 PM
Fruit still looking good. Should they be yellow even before fully ripe? Mine are greenish purple with spots. Could this be a ligularis x Frederick?

(https://i.postimg.cc/VdpQt1W3/2-CFD086-B-E732-4908-87-F7-3-A00500-ADEDF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdpQt1W3)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Oolie on June 24, 2020, 02:22:45 PM
It would be worth trying those hybrids out.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on June 24, 2020, 02:59:17 PM
Ok, this says that there are yellow and purple forms and mine are ripe.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/vines/passion-flower/how-to-harvest-passion-fruit.htm (https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/vines/passion-flower/how-to-harvest-passion-fruit.htm)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Epicatt2 on June 24, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
Isn't the fruit of P. ligularis green when developing but then ripens to golden yellow or a golden orange?  And sometimes has a rosy blush on one cheek?

That's what I remember from when I ate them in Costa Rica and Guatemala.

Paul M.
==
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on June 24, 2020, 10:38:40 PM
Link says yellow or purple/black. Mine is the latter.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on June 25, 2020, 12:34:08 AM
Shane, that's really weird and interesting.  I wonder if it was a cross that produced those.  They look bigger than normal P. ligularis fruit.  I'm curious what they end up tasting like.  If they're like other fruit in that subsection of passiflora, they won't fall when ripe -- you have to pick them.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ScottR on June 25, 2020, 10:39:59 AM
Shane, be sure to show us all pic of fruit when you cut open would be interesting to see if inside is like ligularis which is kind of soft spongy textured or edulis with less spongy and more juice! What ever it will be you might have nice variety hopefully. 8)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on June 25, 2020, 11:01:19 AM
Shane, that's really weird and interesting.  I wonder if it was a cross that produced those.  They look bigger than normal P. ligularis fruit.  I'm curious what they end up tasting like.  If they're like other fruit in that subsection of passiflora, they won't fall when ripe -- you have to pick them.

Hey barath, glad you jumped in here! You gave me this plant years ago so maybe you remember if it could be a Frederick cross? It was June 2015 according to my messages. Recognize this tag?


(https://i.postimg.cc/VSL5cDR8/BF0-D1-F7-A-4023-4-CAA-A58-C-00017-A487-D62.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSL5cDR8)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: barath on June 25, 2020, 09:52:11 PM
Shane, that's really weird and interesting.  I wonder if it was a cross that produced those.  They look bigger than normal P. ligularis fruit.  I'm curious what they end up tasting like.  If they're like other fruit in that subsection of passiflora, they won't fall when ripe -- you have to pick them.

Hey barath, glad you jumped in here! You gave me this plant years ago so maybe you remember if it could be a Frederick cross? It was June 2015 according to my messages. Recognize this tag?


(https://i.postimg.cc/VSL5cDR8/BF0-D1-F7-A-4023-4-CAA-A58-C-00017-A487-D62.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSL5cDR8)

Oh yeah -- I forgot about that!  So I'm pretty sure that they aren't crossed with Frederick, but they could have been crossed with some other Passiflora, but I don't know what if so.  I think I got that batch of seeds from someone in South America, but I don't remember which batch that specific plant was from.  P. ligularis fruit sometimes has some purple coloration, though not as much as your fruit seem to.  I wonder what color they'll be when ripe -- they should be partly or mostly yellow/orange.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ScottR on June 26, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
John Vanderplank book Passion Flowers says; under fruit of passiflora ligularia Large, sweet and very edible, green, turning yellow, orange or purplish when ripe. Ovoid, with hard brittle shell 3 1/5ins. long, 2 2/5 ins wide.
I have seen orange yellow fruit but never purplish!
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: HoangNguyen on July 29, 2020, 03:51:20 PM
update:

Self hand pollination

(https://i.postimg.cc/DmF4xYM7/0597-C672-CA47-4825-8-D59-2-FDD545-C8871.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DmF4xYM7)

Frederick
(https://i.postimg.cc/RqR6yQkK/74-EAEDAD-E126-4406-99-EF-91352-A29-E599.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqR6yQkK)

Constance Elliot
(https://i.postimg.cc/njKjHvC8/F06-FF368-01-BF-4-A62-8-ADF-65-E839-F73753.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njKjHvC8)


Hi shaneatwell,

When you wrote Frederick, you meant you used Frederick pollen for P. ligularis; didn't you?  Any update of your fruits?  My p. ligularis is also fruiting too in San Jose, CA.  They are changing the color to yellow.

 

(https://i.postimg.cc/xqgLWswj/passiflora-ligularis.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqgLWswj)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on September 02, 2020, 12:05:21 PM
Yes on Frederick pollen. Update on the fruit: I had the Frederick crossed fruit when it was still purple and there was no flesh just seeds and white cases. But it did produce seeds so the crosses work to that extent. Then I waited for the others to turn color and have 3 yellow as of a couple weeks ago. We tried one last Saturday. This was from using self pollen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/GB9jgp7S/6-DF12172-E8-EA-4276-BC2-C-523-EEBB81-E9-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GB9jgp7S)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CBZ685Hg/482-A840-D-F614-4-A88-A0-F3-1-E6039-AA3913.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBZ685Hg)

The taste was sweet and pleasant. Not much sour at all. Slightly bitter aftertaste. My wife chews the seeds and she said way crunchier than Frederick. I definitely prefer Frederick for the sweet tart mix. Iíve saved seeds and try to germinate.

Overall the pollination success was approximately
1/20 for Frederick
3/9 For Constance
2/2 for self

Hand pollination with its own pollen seems like the best option. Next year Iíll do mostly that.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Mike T on September 02, 2020, 05:54:16 PM
SoCal should be a great climate for them. I am a bit warm so they don't do as well but they go well at higher altitudes in my local area. Most people seem to prefer edulis and they are more flavourful and have a better acid/sugar balance.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: jvimal on September 02, 2020, 06:12:23 PM
Yes on Frederick pollen. Update on the fruit: I had the Frederick crossed fruit when it was still purple and there was no flesh just seeds and white cases. But it did produce seeds so the crosses work to that extent. Then I waited for the others to turn color and have 3 yellow as of a couple weeks ago. We tried one last Saturday. This was from using self pollen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/GB9jgp7S/6-DF12172-E8-EA-4276-BC2-C-523-EEBB81-E9-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GB9jgp7S)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CBZ685Hg/482-A840-D-F614-4-A88-A0-F3-1-E6039-AA3913.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBZ685Hg)

The taste was sweet and pleasant. Not much sour at all. Slightly bitter aftertaste. My wife chews the seeds and she said way crunchier than Frederick. I definitely prefer Frederick for the sweet tart mix. Iíve saved seeds and try to germinate.

Overall the pollination success was approximately
1/20 for Frederick
3/9 For Constance
2/2 for self

Hand pollination with its own pollen seems like the best option. Next year Iíll do mostly that.


That's great to hear.  I am just starting some from seeds, but I live in the north / bay area.  Hopefully it works out well here.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Plantinyum on September 03, 2020, 10:38:35 AM
I am growing two plants of the golden variety. Slow growth ,some problem with leaf deformation- when the growth spurt starts everything is okay till one or two weeks later when it the new leaves start to get deformed and the plant stops growing. Mine are around half a meter high and very branched out since the growing tip problem discussed above.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on September 03, 2020, 12:29:36 PM
if that was citrus, i'd guess aphids, but i've not seen that issue on passiflora.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Plantinyum on September 03, 2020, 12:56:58 PM
Here are te pics, those red dots seem to apear and right after, the plant stops growing ,its very odd, the leaves get smaller and deformed. Sorry if i'm hitchhiking the tread.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hfpq7xss/IMG-20200903-194854.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfpq7xss)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NyrhVncC/IMG-20200903-194901.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NyrhVncC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qzkTRQsg/IMG-20200903-194924.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzkTRQsg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zbKrLc2H/IMG-20200903-194953.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zbKrLc2H)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hQnqV1Ny/IMG-20200903-194959.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQnqV1Ny)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yDG4LHwS/IMG-20200903-195017.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDG4LHwS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cdbhdz9r/IMG-20200903-195025.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cdbhdz9r)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on September 15, 2020, 12:01:47 PM
Hereís the fruit from Constance Elliot cross. Tasted awful but could be natural variability. Both fruits from the CE cross were smaller than the selfed.

 
(https://i.postimg.cc/RWwBFn4L/199-F165-A-B2-D5-4-CDE-BCDD-75-F5837688-B4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWwBFn4L)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wRtKd1wJ/9-FC174-D6-102-A-4-D81-9823-D92-FAE76-ABB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRtKd1wJ)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 14, 2021, 09:44:51 PM
Wanted to mark that itís flowering again. This year Iím manually self pollinating it. Done 7 so far. Couple a day.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ScottR on April 15, 2021, 10:49:07 AM
Shane, have you grown any of the seeds out of your crosses? Nice work keep the crosses going!
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 15, 2021, 01:08:44 PM
Shane, have you grown any of the seeds out of your crosses? Nice work keep the crosses going!

I tried last year, but none germinated. Not even the selfs. I think my technique is bad.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Kuhyay on April 15, 2021, 02:29:58 PM
How long did these take for you guys to flower, mine is in its second year and has filled out its trellis, but no flowers yet.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ben mango on April 15, 2021, 04:02:51 PM
Big ones in Colombia ,  size of a baseball if not bigger

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3JLkzJW/E91-E0-B41-0993-4-C66-A242-8138-D61310-BB.jpg)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 15, 2021, 06:13:34 PM
How long did these take for you guys to flower, mine is in its second year and has filled out its trellis, but no flowers yet.

5 years for mine. But i don't know if that was necessary. It flowered as soon as it found my yangmei and grew up through it and dropped down the other side. Just on the face of the fence wasn't working i'm guessing.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on April 29, 2021, 01:29:22 PM
Nice Ben! Not what mine look like either in size or color.

On the self pollination, I got 50% take. 5 out of 10. Will pay attention to time of day for the next batch.


(https://i.postimg.cc/301TrGmT/FE8-BFF40-F418-4-C9-D-9-E6-D-7-BC4-DA0942-D2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/301TrGmT)
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on July 27, 2021, 09:26:11 PM
All ripe now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH/IMG-20210723-171542.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH)

Fruit is very sweet.. Pleasant but with no acid balance. Tastes like dilute cool aid. Got 10 fruit from manual self polination.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Plantinyum on July 28, 2021, 03:58:17 AM
All ripe now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH/IMG-20210723-171542.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH)

Fruit is very sweet.. Pleasant but with no acid balance. Tastes like dilute cool aid. Got 10 fruit from manual self polination.
so they were purple while immature , and got orange when ripe??
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: ScottR on July 28, 2021, 10:50:38 AM
Congrats Shane, on fruiting your ligularis, I have one alive in ground now for 4-years but no flowers yet!
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: shaneatwell on July 28, 2021, 11:12:35 AM
All ripe now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH/IMG-20210723-171542.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yDj9Q8fH)

Fruit is very sweet.. Pleasant but with no acid balance. Tastes like dilute cool aid. Got 10 fruit from manual self polination.
so they were purple while immature , and got orange when ripe??

Correct.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Malia on July 28, 2021, 12:34:36 PM
I ate one this year in Mexico. Super tasty. Will they grow in Florida? I thought they are Passiflora maliformis (sweet calabash), but turns out it is a different species.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: roblack on July 28, 2021, 01:13:37 PM
Yes, sweet granadilla grows and fruits in South FL. Have fruited giant granadilla.

I prefer p. laurifolia. Fruits are more complex, yet still no acid.
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Julie on July 28, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
Iím growing one now I started from seed from a sweet granadilla I bought from a local grower with very good taste. Hope it grows and fruits here!
Title: Re: Passiflora Ligularis / Sweet Granadilla
Post by: Mike T on July 29, 2021, 05:21:23 PM
Ligularis is a pleasant enough fruit but ddoesnt enjoy the tropics being more subtropical in its preferences. I personally find them a bit bland even when sweet. I cant help but compare them to top shelf flavicarpas and they are not in the same realm at all.
The term granadilla is reserved exclusively for the giant passionfruit in my part of the world where they have been a backyard feature for over 100years. Some selections of these have better flesh with honeydew tones but generally flesh is bland but can be stewed and the pulp mixed through afterwards fo improve the flavour.
So far as P.edulis edulis goes I recently got a batch of sweethearts with reputedly taste better than the esteemed misty gem which is the standard and they are larger. I did a taste trial of these with Ernie flavicarpa, a prince of passionfruit and was surprised at the gulf between them. The Ernie flavicarpa blew the the edulis out of the water in terms of complexity of taste profile, sweetness and on any other characteristic you care to name when tasting fruit. I'm not sure misty gem is yesterdays adulis if sweetheart is that disappointing.