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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chili Peppers in tropical climates
« on: July 21, 2021, 12:36:16 PM »
Do you guys normally grow them in pots or in the ground?

Also do you notice any difference in taste between the store bought variety vs home grown?
In my yard, they do best in pots in partial shade. Trinidad scorpion has been the most productive for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is This PPK?
« on: June 28, 2021, 10:35:33 AM »
This is the first year Iíve let this tree hold fruit and itís probably still too small (I got impatient after three years and was starting to suspect it had been mislabeled).  That combined with the really dry spring we had wouldnít surprise me that the fruit is undersized. Also why I was thinking it was too big for PPK.  Iíve had Mallika before so hopefully I can pick it at the right time and see if it tastes right.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is This PPK?
« on: June 27, 2021, 01:54:16 AM »
Im almost thinking that is a Mallika.

I have had a sneaking suspicion that it might be Mallika. Not what I wanted but it could be worse, still a citrus mango. Figuring out when to pick them is going to be rough since I donít know what it is and I could be one of the really tricky ones!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is This PPK?
« on: June 25, 2021, 11:25:03 PM »
Here are some PPK I picked recently. The tree started ripening fruit about 2-3 weeks ago.  Flavor is excellent.  No resin.  Very refreshing with the lemon/citrus flavor concentrated near the skin.  The flesh sometimes gets a little gelatinous.  I haven't tasted all the newer Zills or the more exotic varieties from, say, India, but I would guess PPK is a Top-Twenty Mango.  These were grown approximately 9 miles from the coast in north Broward County.  The fruit and tree are clean--no MBBS or other issues.  I didn't pay attention to the leaves.  I will when I go back to pick more fruit.


(My hands are neither small nor large--average for an under-six-foot male.)

Thanks John! Iím at the northern end of mango county and a couple weeks behind south Florida so that makes me feel better about the timing.  I already harvested ripe Fruit Punch, Cac, and Venus so it seemed late but those were all first time fruiters too and maybe were early. Iím over 6ft and have large hands, also my fruit seems wider than all the pictures Iíve seen but that could just be the angle.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is This PPK?
« on: June 25, 2021, 04:08:30 PM »





I bought this tree as a PPK three years ago and this is the first time Iíve let it hold fruit.  Iíve never had a chance to try PPK so I canít compare it to anything but I was under the impression that it was smaller and earlier. It has some wavy leaves but theyíre not all wavy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rosigold Blooming Again!
« on: June 12, 2021, 07:44:22 PM »
It looks like Rosigold wants to be both my earliest and latest variety since it is blooming again for the third time this year after holding a decent crop. Iím guessing it might be due to drought stress? Does anyone else have trees in bloom right now?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tier Mango Reviews
« on: June 06, 2021, 05:41:45 PM »
Awesome, I've seen sugarloaf described as having a coconut flavor too so I'll post my review soon for that.  It's still rock hard right now!  My child recognized the lemon flavor in PPK.  The good thing about PPK is that it's an early season mango.  Family members always have to be considered when planting a tree for sure.  Right now I only have Glenn and Pickering at my home, both early season.  Glenn is amazing this year but for some reason Pickering tastes horrible.  I remember it being good before but this year it's fibrous and bland and tastes like Tommy Atkins?

Last year I bought a couple Lemon Zest that were very fibrous, had a strong Carry spice and no citrus flavor. I think some trees just have an off year sometimes. Sometimes they have on years too, the Pickerings I was buying last year seemed extra sweet and had a strong coconut flavor that I have tasted in past years!

You sure it was a Lemon Zest you bought and not a mis-named fruit?  I have eaten 100s of LZs and NEVER had one that even comes close to that description. Your description sounds more like an East Indian or Madame Frances.

That is entirely possible.  I did compare them to pictures after eating one and they did look like LZ but it looks like the two you mentioned are similar as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top Tier Mango Reviews
« on: June 06, 2021, 03:50:01 PM »
Awesome, I've seen sugarloaf described as having a coconut flavor too so I'll post my review soon for that.  It's still rock hard right now!  My child recognized the lemon flavor in PPK.  The good thing about PPK is that it's an early season mango.  Family members always have to be considered when planting a tree for sure.  Right now I only have Glenn and Pickering at my home, both early season.  Glenn is amazing this year but for some reason Pickering tastes horrible.  I remember it being good before but this year it's fibrous and bland and tastes like Tommy Atkins?

Last year I bought a couple Lemon Zest that were very fibrous, had a strong Carry spice and no citrus flavor. I think some trees just have an off year sometimes. Sometimes they have on years too, the Pickerings I was buying last year seemed extra sweet and had a strong coconut flavor that I have tasted in past years!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: April 21, 2021, 07:10:50 PM »
Regarding the .177 stopping/kill power....I have dropped woodchucks, crows, and squirrels at 25 yards with the Air Hawk w/.177 lead pellets.

You absolutely can kill those things with a .177 and probably large animals as well, especially if youíre a good shot. The recommendation for .22 is by people who frequently hunt squirrels and gun manufacturers because it reduces the chances of non humane kills. The guns usually cost about the same so if you are going to buy a gun and donít already have one, Iíd go with the.22

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit Post
« on: April 20, 2021, 10:35:50 PM »
Does anyone have pics of their trellis?  I'm looking for more ideas and leaning towards a pot solution in case I move in the future and can bring my DF with me.

I wouldnít worry about moving them, they root so easily from cuttings you can just hack off a big section of your plant and be well on your way to have a full size plant again. My neighbor gave me a 4 foot section of his plant and I just leaned in against a palm trees and it took off! It just wonít fruit which I understand is common for DF grown in shade like this.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: April 20, 2021, 10:24:45 PM »
From what I have read, you are more likely to get humane kills with the .22.  With the.177 there is a higher chance of missing vitals and not have a big enough hole to bleed out leaving the animal to slowly die over several days. I went with the.22 and took it to the range to make sure I can hit them in the head reliably.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: .22 pellet gun with scope
« on: April 19, 2021, 09:14:11 AM »
I just got a Hatsan Mod 95 with the gas spring instead of a mechanical spring which is supposed to reduce the double recoil. I was recommended to shoot it several hundred times to break it in before mounting the scope which is also supposed to help with the recoil. I have also been reading that you need to use a scope specifically made for air rifles or they will fall apart. So far it has been plenty accurate, I can reliably hit something the size of a quarter from 15 yards without a scope which is further than I need for the squirrels in my neighborhood.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: April 14, 2021, 10:04:40 PM »
Iíve been eating the first crop from my Rosigold for a couple of days now. Itís its second year fruiting and while I was happy with it last year, I think itís a little better this year (or I just havenít had a decent mango is a while). It isnít knock you socks off amazing but Iím still really happy with this little tree! Who else is getting mangoes?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: hilariously under-potted annona
« on: April 11, 2021, 06:04:24 PM »
Did you try moving it? Iíve had neglected seedlings send extensive root systems out the bottom of the pot to the point where I had to dig them up to move them.

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You could check if airport to airport is cheaper. This is shipping it directly through an airline like Delta. The biggest hitch with this is someone has to drop them off at the departing airport and someone else has to pick it up at a the receiving airport. Itís more complicated but can save some money.  You could also see if someone on the forum has a business that does a lot of shipping since they can potentially get a dramatically better rate.

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I would like:
1 x Donkui
1 x Black Peak
1 x Biqi

Iím in SW Florida and can pick up anywhere between Tampa and Ft Myers (or a little further if needed).

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I only ever check this section despite also growing and enjoying citrus. I just donít think to check/keep up with the other section. I bet many others are in a similar boat and further splitting would compound the issue. Splitting is really only necessary when threads are disappearing to page 3,4,5 in the first hours, that doesnít happen here.

Totally agree. I check this section several times a day but only check the citrus section a couple times a week. Subdividing into different sections will effectively divert attention away from smaller topics not give them more attention. There are other forums that have divided like this and they are terrible.  I visit those maybe every six months.

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In the articles I read they compare the flavor to pomegranate, would you say that is accurate?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Potential For Root Rot?
« on: March 22, 2021, 08:20:51 PM »
Today I was ripping out some old shrubs in an area that I plan on planting a mango and some hibiscus. The roots of the shrubs (plumbago I think) looked really unhealthy and some of the older growth was rotting. The area is where the old decaying root system of an old tree is that was cut down to ground level over five years ago. Is this something that will effect the next plants I plan on putting in?






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So, I tend to get periodic outbreaks of mealy bugs in my greenhouse, and it seems like they bounce back pretty quick after treatment.  This made me wonder, are these NEW bugs, or are they old bugs that have "recovered"?

So I set up an experiment - 4 mealy bugs in 4 little plastic containers.  Each one got a "dose" of a drop of one of four things applied directly to their squishy little bodies- "all season" horticultural oil, alcohol, pyrethrin+sticker, and just because I had some handy, Physan.
I killed the first few by accidentally squashing them, until I started giving them their "dose" while observing through my USB microscope.

The verdict - NOTHING killed them in the first three days.  By day four, only the horticultural oil recipient was dead.  The alcohol bug is very revved up, doing laps in his little container.  Following closely in energy is the Physan bug.  The py+sticker dude is moving weakly, occasionally falling onto his back and waving his little legs, then righting himself again.

They all appeared to lose their waxy coating at first, but once dry, they all gained it back again.
By the time he died, the "Hort Oil Bug" was only about 50% covered with his wax.

Makes me go Hmmm...



Mr. Alcoholic Mealy Bug

Maybe mixing some soap in with your spray would help get past the waxy coating (except for the oil)? Detergent is supposed to be synergistic with some disinfectants against certain bacteria with waxy outer layers for the same reason. Or you could just stick to oil lol.

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Some fig varieties in Florida will grow and then get large branch dieoff and keep repeating that process (I think has to do with nematodes) and they go dormant part of the year anyway so Iíd go ahead and transplant it somewhere else. Or, are you talking about a sycamore fig?

OP stated its a strangler fig, most commonly F. aurea (but could be other tropical species).  Super fast grower but can be quite invasive.

Yes, strangler fig. Normally parasitic but I have some that are free standing. They can become very cool looking trees when they get big but Iíve been reading that their roots can cause problems.

Looks like Cac it is! Thanks Alex!

Yeah, the stranglers can look very cool but roots are an issue.  They are are more of surface roots which makes them topple over in hurricanes.  I have one in my yard that looks very nice but due to its size and proximity to the house,  I really need to have it removed.

You werenít kidding about the shallow roots, I just ripped two 6 footers from the ground like it was nothing! Just wish sable palms came out that easy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I think I killed my Mangrove tree
« on: March 22, 2021, 12:59:12 PM »
MANGO not mangrove. Mangroves are protected by law (wild ones anyway), donít want you get in trouble. My guess would be that you damage the roots while moving it or burned it with fertilizer. What kind of Vigoro did you use? They make many different kinds.

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Some fig varieties in Florida will grow and then get large branch dieoff and keep repeating that process (I think has to do with nematodes) and they go dormant part of the year anyway so Iíd go ahead and transplant it somewhere else. Or, are you talking about a sycamore fig?

OP stated its a strangler fig, most commonly F. aurea (but could be other tropical species).  Super fast grower but can be quite invasive.

Yes, strangler fig. Normally parasitic but I have some that are free standing. They can become very cool looking trees when they get big but Iíve been reading that their roots can cause problems.

Looks like Cac it is! Thanks Alex!

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I have a spot in my yard where Iím thinking about planting a shade tree. Currently there are some smallish strangler figs growing there that I was thinking about leaving and letting get big but Iíve been reading that they may become problematic. I have been considering planting a mango in that area as a shade tree instead. Valencia Pride has a reputation for having uncontrollable growth and becoming a massive tree in a short period of time and would be ideal if it werenít for the fact that the majority of the VP fruit Iíve had had been mediocre at best (I have had some decent ones but most have been disappointing). Are there any other mangoes that approach the vigor and disease resistance of VP but have somewhat better fruit?

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Iíd be very wary of subdividing the forum too much, especially by pulling lower interest topics from the main discussion or this will end up like the terrible banana forum where itís really hard to find anything and you waste a bunch of time going between different sub forums and various topics end up getting neglected.  It might be worth giving higher interest topics (ie. mangoes) their own space to help highlight some of the other topics, but there is enough overlap in members and information that itís probably not worth while and may do more harm than good.

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