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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango Scions
« on: December 05, 2022, 09:24:41 AM »
Nope sorry,

I'm not sure how things are going in CA with their mango growing, maybe they can help.
This is the time of year in FL when everyone is waiting for flowers so it's hard to find any that wants to possibly sacrifice their 2023 season by clipping scions now.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango Scions
« on: December 03, 2022, 12:08:05 PM »
I am in need of the following Mango Scions.

Chaunsa
Neelam
Beverly
Dot
Harvest Moon
Karen Michelle
Lancetilla
Maha Chanok
Giselle
Amrapalli

If you have any or all on the list please reply.

Any information on where to source them would also be helpful.

Thanks

Most of these will be widely available from various members in the forum.
Tropicalacresfarm sells scions via their website too
Unfortunately, you'll likely have to wait until late spring to buy scions, most people's trees in FL are dormant and we're waiting for flowers.

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Im not as sophisticated with my trash.  We just keep a bucket under the sink and take it out every couple days and burry it under tree in a shallow hole.   No need to do any extra work with it.

I'm in the same boat with composting but since i don't have a big lot i have 2 open bottom 55gal drum with a hinged top i throw everything in.
My father does your method

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is anyone growing Mammee Apple?
« on: November 23, 2022, 01:43:24 PM »
I grafted one of the free stone types from Dr. Campbell's collection.
Jinotepe #2 supposedly.
The tree is around 20ft now, not flowers yet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What causes rot inside mango fruit?
« on: November 17, 2022, 07:01:32 PM »
This happen to a few of my fruit this year.
Not widespread enough for me to panic, I would also like to know what's going on.

From the little I could gather it seems related to Boron and Calcium. That's assuming the article i read was describing this same phenomenon

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Flacourtia indica.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help! Super Haas dying.
« on: November 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM »
How tall is the tree? It a little hard to get scale from the picture.
Also what size pot and soil?
Has the pot dried out recently?
Barring any watering mishaps, I would guess the most likely culprit is letting the tree fruit too early.
It's a good idea to let even in ground tree grow for 3 years without fruiting.
Growing in pots can be tricky because you likely want to control the size and letting it fruit is a good way to do that. But it can be hard to get right especially with trees with bigger fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Taralay Mango
« on: November 06, 2022, 04:14:52 PM »
I have a tree planted, its around 10ft.
I should get fruit next year so if i forget to mention let me know.

I haven't had it in a while but in the world of indochinese flavors, Zinc and Cac have my heart

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Here is a picture of the two types of Vietnamese mangos available in the normal nursery trade in Florida
Both came from my yard in the 2021 season

The yellow one is what they sell as CAC, I believe Alex thinks this is the same as Cat Shu. (this is one of the smaller fruits from the tree)
The green one is Cat Hoa Loc

I personally like the Cac better as I'm a big fan of the Indochinese flavor.
Cat Hoa Loc is a little denser and has a Thai component to go along with the Indochinese.
I eat these ripe



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB jujube that grows well in FL
« on: October 22, 2022, 05:57:27 PM »
im selling giant thai jujubes if you want to drive to ft myers
+1

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post-Hurricane Blues
« on: October 15, 2022, 05:45:50 PM »
When everything more important is situated and you guys are looking to rebuild collections let me know I'll send whatever I can scions, plants or seeds.
I have plenty of annonas scions I can offer

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any Info on Cotton Candy Mango?
« on: October 15, 2022, 05:42:11 PM »
Looks like cotton candy to me.
Most of the late season zills varieties are keepers.
Im finding it hard to decide which ones to keep.
M4 seems a good but later then the rest

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As the title said I'm selling red hybrid and blue (vex.) jaboticaba.
That red are from my tree the blue are from f&s Park.



Heres a typical shot. The reds don't like my city water on their leaves so I plan to pot them up and put them on drip.

I'm selling them in a set of 4 (mix and match) for $50. Shipping included.
Can't ship to CA or other states that don't allow it.
Pm me if interested.

I should have enough to fill a few boxes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya in FL anecdote
« on: September 24, 2022, 08:08:02 AM »
Nice work Joe.
I've noticed the same thing on my RH3, it looks like your true cherimoya made it further though.
Looking forward to that cross

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting June Plum
« on: September 19, 2022, 11:46:20 AM »
Spondias dulcis wildly grown in south florida, I don't think you should have a problem with it.
You can mound it up if you are worried about flooding

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree - Worth it?
« on: September 18, 2022, 08:44:51 AM »
You can use most of the common tropical fruit trees for this purpose.
Just don't get a dwarf varieties.

Mango, Jackfruit, and avocado should all be pretty easy.
I would consider mammea americana or starapple, they are pretty trees and the fruit don't make a huge mess.

I'm doing the same in front of my western-facing windows, I try to keep the canopy level with my roof, I don't let the branches hang over though.

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Picked the last mangos, got atemoyas, persimmons and starfruit left.
Hoping for some more plinias and Garcinia in a a month or 2

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride ?
« on: September 10, 2022, 06:08:31 PM »
I thought the original Australian description for African Pride might be of interest to several people on this thread. I have included it word for word below. Please note that I was not able to include the picture plate mentiond because this is hand typed. However, it looks strikingly similar to the top picture posted by Skahn. Also, (for those who do not already know) Atemoyas are called Custard Apples in Australia and ripening times will be approximately 6 months off of Florida due to being in opposite hemispheres. Also of interest is that the description for Pink's Mammoth in the same book call it "knobby" while Gefner is described as "pointed."

"African Pride was promoted in Queensland in the 1950s by Langbecker's nursery, Bundaberg. It is said to have been introduced from South Africa, but may have originated in Israel as the cultivar Kaller.

The fruit is heart-shaped or conical, small to moderate size and usually contains more seeds in relation to flesh than Pink's Mammoth. The medium-thickness skin is smoother than Pink's Mammoth and bears a series of concave, U-shaped areas like thumb-print impressions with small protuberances (areoles) (plate 2). Skin appearence can vary even between fruit on the same tree. Some fruit can have small, pointed skin segments. This variation in skin appearence could be related to tree vigour.

African Pride produces significant yields in the third year after planting. Harvesting begins in early April in the Nambour district.

Aftican Pride is a reliable cropper but a large percentage of fruit can be small in a heavy crop. Fruit size can be improved by thinning and pruning. For details, see the section on pruning.

The fruit of African Pride is considered more presentable than that of Pink's Mammoth and is easier to pack. It can be presented in single-layer trays. The tree does not exhibit the strong terminal growth of Pink's Mammoth and so is more compact.

African Pride's early consistent bearing behavior makes it the easiest and most profitable cultivar to grow in all districts of Queensland suitable for custard apples. However, it must be managed carefully to produce fruit of good size.

African Pride is the most convenient cultivar for home gardeners, because it begins fruiting only two or three years after planting, and is a smaller tree than Pink's Mammoth."

Excerpt from p.4 of
Growing Custard Apples
G.M. Sanewski
Department of Primary Industries
Queensland Government
Brisbane 1988

Thanks for digging that up.
The main reason I don't like the one that I think is AP is because of all the seeds.
The flavor is more cherimoya then the rest I ate so far.
This description makes me a little more certain what I have is AP

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: September 10, 2022, 11:10:42 AM »
You guys are crazy abiu is TOP notch fruit I rate it right up there with some of the heavy weights.  They do not need cross pollination to produce but yes they can flower heavily and have the flowers fall off a few times, I have one Z4 seedling (NOT GRAFTED) that produced its first fruits at 14 months in the ground and the fruit was incredible as good as any I have tasted and that includes the grafted stuff I tasted at Australians premier tropical fruit farm.  I have all seedlings mostly Z4 seedlings and E4 seedling that is still too little to produce but I rate these trees as some of my most prized.  The Z4 seedling also bears prolifically almost at the level of myer lemon, mine is currently loaded with baby fruits, seems they basically fruit all year with short periods in between mature fruits and flowering again. Heavy rain doesnt seem to have any impact on flowering they produce no matter what the weather is doing.

Maybe over there in Florida your soils are not suitable to produce the best tastes? We are on fairly Acid clay here high nutrient content and they are very happy trees.

We are on the opposite extreme with soil. Low nutrient, sand with a lot of limestone and high ph.
I have mine on a fertigation system and I apply sulfur.
So far it seems to be working

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's September 1st, where are your Mangos?
« on: September 10, 2022, 09:19:48 AM »
I picked out all the kietts yesterday. To much squirrel damage
My friend no longer has Keitts left on his tree.

 ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride ?
« on: September 10, 2022, 08:50:49 AM »
These are from a what was supposed to be arka sahan but I believe they are likely AP. (If any one wants to ID them it would be appreciated)

To make matters even more confusing.
If you look at previous threads the AP they have in CA looks a good bit different then what they are growing in AU. The general shape seems the same but the AU one is even flatter.





I'm probably going to top work this tree to something else.
I never had a bad gefner or Lisa.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's September 1st, where are your Mangos?
« on: September 10, 2022, 08:28:40 AM »
I picked out all the kietts yesterday. To much squirrel damage

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride ?
« on: September 10, 2022, 08:27:34 AM »
What do you think it is?

It was sold to me as a Tim by fruitscapes.
Last year a forum member asked Fruitscapes and they said the Tims
were actually African Prides. Is it a Tim for real? I can call them and
ask them about the Tims they sold but I think there was allot of confusion
already surrounding the Tim. I appreciate the feedback!

I wonder if it could be tropic sun. PPC makes sense too.
Let us know if you find out anything from fruit scapes

I find IDing atemoyas pretty hard since they don't always have the same shape.
I guess the real question is how does it taste?

My mystery atemoya taste good, but it has more seeds than I would like. So far calostro and tropic sun have been the best that I have

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A lot of it is a preference for sure.
With these extra flavorful varieties, it takes some experience to know when to pick them and when to eat them
It gets even harder when they stay the same color the whole time.
Thats one of the reasons why it would be hard to commercialize a lot of these new ZHPP mangos.

For example
Sugarloaf was a newer one for me this year, i probably pick half my crop (5) too early and another 4 too late.
What i learned is that you need to pick it before you see any yellow on the nose.
I'm still learning when the best time to eat it, staying green all the time makes it hard to tell

Zinc and its relatives tend to be better when picked mature green however, they last a long time on the counter.
You can easily leave them there for too long and end up with a flat-tasting mango or even overripe.

Neelam is similar to the Zinc relatives in that you need to pick them mature green but its pretty forgiving if you pick it too early.

Cac is one of the easier ones, its hard to go wrong. I notice the fruits start to look a little dirty when its prime.
Its a commercial crop for a reason

All of the above are based off my trees in South Florida so yours maybe different.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: African Pride
« on: September 08, 2022, 07:05:59 PM »
I'm no expert on IDing these but judging by the non symmetrical shape and size I would say it's in the pink mammoth line of atemoyas

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