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I love data from prior years and events... Opinions ... lol... All have one or more...

Back on topic::: Yes I got rain today and yesterday and yes the ditches are holding water and yes the soil is saturated.

lol......... Just started skimming through 1 st video and I gotta say:: I Love It  ... Someone who actually shows the tabulations of data .. Yea...
I checked out what he says about the 1930's being hotter in the summer than recent summers and sure enough NOAA has verified the data.
Look at the all Time Records tab.
If those temps had occurred last summer or this summer.... Current Gov't would have made us all get on our bikes or walk... lol...

Graphics / MapsTemperatures (July 5-18, 1936)All-Time Records
All-Time Records Set in July 1936

Location   Temperature   Date
Decorah, IA   111F   July 14
Fayette, IA   110F   July 14
New Hampton, IA   110F   July 13
Mondovi, WI   110F   July 14
Richland Center, WI   110F   July 14
Rochester, MN   108F   July 11 & 14
La Crosse, WI   108F   July 14
Lancaster, WI   108F   July 14
Viroqua, WI   108F   July 13
Hatfield, WI   108F   July 14
Osage, IA   107F   July 14
Friendship, WI   106F   July 14
Grand Meadow, MN   106F   July 14
Mather, WI   106F   July 14
Neillsville, WI   106F   July 14
Sparta, WI   106F   July 13
Medford, WI   104F   July 13

Rise and fall of ocean levels is interesting as is how to get a mango tree to grow and taste best as a lot of factors often totally different than the other factors are affecting both.

Interesting to consider plate tectonic movement as one of the possible variations of land above and below sea level. It seems satelites monitoring curvature of the earth and land mass above sea level would be helpful and they probably are today by some. Also many many stationary points around the land portion with gps etc. should belp with an idea of is more land above sea level or not.

I could see big cracks possibly forming deeper oceans with more land. I could also see the reverse... lol... Have AI solve the riddle...

In a video I just watched showing someones view of the earth billons of years ago seems to inititally have less land, then as time nears current time they project more land, but in the future they turn around and project less land again with a lot of ocean water in the amazon basin and North Americas great lakes region.... Not sure why initially land was rising and future projection for oceans rising due to which factors is not presented in video as the world turns with time lol...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango allergies - home remedies?
« on: May 31, 2023, 09:02:36 PM »
Wash with soap & water to remove as much as possible as soon as possible.
My favorite home remedy is pulled from the medicine cabinet: hydrocortisone 1%  cream or ointment and applied on affected area if no medical contraindications with your health.

Benadryl taken at maximum recommended dosages (may cause drowsiness) if no medical contraindications.

Don't wait to treat it. Vesicles can form if a severe allergic reaction and go to physician for stronger prescription medication. Also, stop scratching/rubbing as you may start to believe your skin is being slowly eaten away, especially if vesicles rupture and raw skin is scratched/rubbed....

On prescription many steroid oral products in dospaks 5 to 12 days different paks and is good to stop local and systemic spread. On prescription many stronger topical steroid products to rub on affected areas if only a local topical reaction.

It is very unusual for me to see a google search with the wrong answer to a common question but IMO here is one:

Wood from trees, like stumps, branches, and limbs will take a very long time to decompose, upwards of 50-100 years if left whole.Oct 11, 2019

IN S. Fl the above is FALSE at least for laurel oaks (water oaks).

I'm not sure as to why anyone would say this long long period of time as I am sure 7 years ago I killed a tree and it rotted and fell over about 6 months ago.

Anyone believing it would take 50 to 100 years would probably hire someone to remove and haul off the tree... I believe in recycling wood back into the soil and thought all should know at least in South Florida expect 7 years for most trees to rot and fall over once dead IMO. (No need to have it removed unless codes require removal).

Dragon fruit enjoyed climbing it before it fell over and are still growing through the fallen pile of sawdust/wood.

Mites... Sulfur... Spray...

Did your tree with the infected limb have 1/5 tree of fruit, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2,2/3, or a loaded tree of fruit? Just wanting to know what impact it had on the tree... Also is the 1 limb 1/10 of the tree, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 9/10 of the tree...

Some mangos have various disease spots etc. etc. etc. but if the trees give me fruit.... I won't throw in the towel. Same with any other fruit tree for me anyways... Just wondering percentage of tree infected and impact on fruit production while it is still living....

To me, it sounds like the state is also willing to live with it as I believe they think it will not go away and it will just be a constant battle with never destroying the mite...


Stop.....Check Again.... Your Kids will not be happy in the Pool.............

The following facilities or services will be unavailable from May 10 2023 to July 31 2023 (dates subject to change):

Swimming pool

I'll jump in here,  PPKs are sweet and citrusy. They kind of don't even taste like a mango, but I don't mean that in any negative way. My only criticism is that its production is quite variable for me. This year I got zero PPKs! That said, my tree is still pretty young. Still, I would never be without a PPK tree.
Interesting, as I also have a light harvest with less PPK's this year vs last year.

Almost all other varieties have more fruit this year vs. last year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 25, 2023, 11:07:35 PM »
I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.

In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really?  Are you sure they're Kent?  Kent is the original fiberless mango.

Brain fart. Keitt, not Kent.

lol..... Too funny...

But, let me help you out as both keitt and kent have little fiber and I enjoy both when home grown but they are often with little taste in the supermarket due to shipping/when picked/etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps Tommy Atkins as also in supermarkets and are known to have more fiber which makes them firmer and lowers bruising/smashing during shipping
Also look over the other varieties at Alex's site.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sea weed
« on: May 23, 2023, 08:48:07 PM »
Poisoning Fear, panic, etc. etc. etc.   
Take it with a grain of Salt..

Google foods that contain Arsenic and decide if you really want to eliminate them all from your diet, also many nuts, etc. etc. etc.

You are unlikely to find anyone paid by government, universities, etc. to tell you anything other than it can or might accumulate with prolonged ingestion/contact/etc. and can eventually in High amounts in the body cause ... death.

But many other common minerals/metals in vitamins taken daily can also be toxic if in too high amounts in the body...

What metals build up in the body?
Disease Overview

Many of the heavy metals, such as zinc, copper, chromium, iron and manganese, are essential to body function in very small amounts. But, if these metals accumulate in the body in concentrations sufficient to cause poisoning, then serious damage may occur.

Moderation in everything as too little or too much of many many things can kill these carbon based bodies... lol

The carbon atom is the essential building block of life. Every part of your body is made up of chains of carbon atoms, which is why we are known as "carbon-based life-forms." Chemically, we're just a bunch of inert compounds.Feb 6, 2015

Decrease the worrying... It'll come .... eventually...

Be thankful and enjoy each day as I'm sure most of us do...


Not even a breeze.  It was so calm that I was out spraying without a care of drift.
We are in the rainy season now (and had a wet end to the dry season)   Fruits are sizing up and the Venus that is prone to splitting has a couple of split fruits already (from the rains in late April).  I think the branch was under strain and just couldn't hold anymore.
Orkine, what variety?  Sorry for your loss, looks like you won't be going hungry though :)
I have the same question as the picture does not look like Venus fruit to me. However, it is the only variety mentioned in the paragraph above discussing the limb and fruit loss...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 21, 2023, 04:42:58 PM »
My guess = Unripe Rapoza mangos.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 20, 2023, 05:18:57 PM »
Peachy Glenns have begun.

...and lots of variety as well. Good to know people
Thanks... Motivated me to go check the Glens outside.
Found 5 ripe Glen and 2 Florigon today.

The daily mango checking has begun here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: it ready to pick??
« on: May 20, 2023, 07:07:23 AM »
Any thoughts?? Thanks in advance   :)
lol................   Yep...............  Feed the vermin some nice cornmeal patties:::

empty cottage cheese containers work well to keep water away while placed in yard,sheds, etc.
50% peanut butter with baking soda 50% if they don't want cornmeal today...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Big problem with bees
« on: May 16, 2023, 05:11:43 PM »
Previously mentioned bee keeper removal = low kill of workers. But queen will grow more worker bees rapidly to replace what is lost when relocated.

No kill & Getting them to leave without beekeeper: 1. Set sprinkler to stay on dropping water on bee colony and open grill. They will leave fast if no hive with babies and just landed and starting to build. May take a few days to 2 weeks if hive has significant comb with babies.

Almost Total Kill::: 1.... Use 4 oz. kitchen soap to a gallon of water and spray onto colony during the night. This is a slow kill taking over an hour and they will sting while slowly passing away. (They will also come at you if holding a flashlight & a few stings)
2. Almost Any pesticide spray applied during the night when all bees are in the hive.
Many people have told me the common flee house canisters when placed upwind will blow over the colony & kill most (similar to the mosquito fogger truck getting too close to a beehive) and a repeat in a week will usually almost wipe it out of living bees.

I have a very smart squirrel: It ate the peanut butterl!!! 
Game should have been over by now... It ate the peanut butter = You should know how to end it's existence (rats/squirrels).... Mix 50% baking soda with it.

Squirrel should have been on the bus to squirrely heaven by now...
Also 1/2 baking soda & cormeal mix just in case it's taste change...

Also, either a racoon or opossum enjoyed chewing on typical rat food bars for about a week (Large enough animal to pick up the bar and eat it above the bricks it was placed in). But it/they no longer chew on it... I think they jumped on the bus also.

Yes, my squirrel/rat population is down since using 50% baking soda with cornmeal and/or peanut butter placed in plastic containers like from empty cottage cheese.

I still like the bars securely placed for larger critters.

So i stumped it and then left it alone....and it grew back.

10.8.22 has some suggestions to try for those wanting to try to help protect a avocado tree... Very interesting ideas. I might quote a few, but here is the link:

"There are things that can be done to help the tree grow healthy and therefore not be a susceptible host for the laurel wilt fungus.

The most important step to take is to get the mycorrhizae back into the soil to help support the tree. All trees are considered mycorrhizal dependent, so dont grow your trees without them. Email me at if you dont know how to get the biology established around the root systems of your trees, lawn, ornamental plants and everything else you want to grow in your yard.

Fertilizing correctly is also important, and that begins with a soil test. If you are interested in that I can also email you a copy of our soil testing form. It takes time for the soil food web to get established, so identifying low levels of any nutrients will be easy to correct.

To produce nutritious avocados, it is also beneficial to re-mineralize the soil with trace elements from a volcanic source, at least while the soil food web is getting established.

Another beneficial practice for the tree would be to spray the foliage with a liquid seaweed spray. This is a simple way to provide trace elements and growth hormones directly to the foliage of the tree, for translocation throughout the entire canopy. Spraying weekly will provide the most benefit.

One last thing you can do to help boost your trees defenses against the fungus would be to add aspirin to the liquid seaweed solution and spray them on the foliage together.  Research at the University of Rhode Island found that spraying a plants foliage with salicylic acid from aspirin results in a Systemic Acquired Resistance in the plant, which can help the plant protect itself from insects and diseases.

In the research, of an aspirin was dissolved in water and sprayed on the foliage of plants. It may be easier to dissolve 3 chewable baby aspirin, in a small amount of hot water, add that to enough cold water to make a gallon, and add the liquid seaweed to spray them together."

A few new ideas like the Aspirin addition, at least for me.

In South Florida, the Barbados Cherry plants are stressed in springtime with little rain. The rains began over a week ago and now blooming fruitset etc.

If you get continual heavy rain I'm guessing the plant wants to grow more than reproduce. Try stressing it with something. Even minerals in too high or low amounts can stress/kill plants. Most plants want to reproduce if a fear of death is near and try to set fruit; at least in my opinion. Ask the locals. Perhaps make their growing environment a less desired growth environment to help stimulate fruit set and reproduction.

In the picture, it looks like it is getting plenty of sunshine.

Interesting your wife adding boiled mangoes to yellow cake mix, might give that atry thanks Palmcity!

Update::: Original cake added 1 and 1/2 cup boiled green mangos but cake was too lemony and not fluffy enough.
2nd cake added only 1 cup boiled green mangos and skipped water and cake was better and fluffier.

The Rectangle cubes of boiled mango were frozen to be used later for many things needing a lemon taste or just add to water, stir, dissolve and add sweetener for lemonade.

I had a heavy limb of Young/Tebow mangos crack last week and was hoping they would ripen but no luck. I pulled down the limb and decided to bite into the wrinkled mangos and they were pretty good. Something between a Glen and Florigon mango (more like a Florigon). I enjoyed eating one outside this morning and took them inside and ate 2 more tonight. Here is a picture of the wrinkled underripe Young/Tebow mangos I ate today.

I'm willing to try most anything especially if I grew it.

Make sure you wash the skin of any drops as snails can carry some bad bad infecting organisms.

Oh, Forgot to mention.... Yes I like eating the skin on the Young/Tebow and also on the Florigon Mango (but I never eat the skin on a Glen as it tastes bad to me).  Very similar to eating a slightly greenish ripe Florigon, which I enjoy.

Tonight I will lay a 24"x24" chicken wire on the ground, connect it to AC neutral (grounded), then secure a 6" dia cardboard on the center of the chicken wire, as isolator. Then on the cardboard will secure a metal pan with fish/meat, and the pan is connected to 110v hot wire. The chicken wire will be staked to ground so nothing can move and might cause short circuit to the hot pan. When it walk on the chicken pan, nothing will happen, but when it lick the pan, it will remember not to gear near any piece of chicken wires. Will place a few pieces of chicken wire around the plants to reinforce the conditional response.

Will use a timer to disconnect the power to the setup in the early morning or I pull off the cable from the outlet, whatever comes first.

Pictures of project completed?

If vermin standing on cardboard and touching pan = no charge passage hot to neutral
If vermin standing on pan and eating in pan = hot only with no circuit completion.
If vermin lick the pan while standing on pan or cardboard = no circuit completion.
If Vermin standing/walking on wire and then touch pan = Completion of circuit. Correct?
So, hopefully vermin does not walk over wire and onto cardboard and or on pan and eat it all and then simply walk off first on cardboard and then to neutral wire without being on both neutral wire & pan (no jumping allowed animals). Animal might jump from chicken wire to pan and not get circuit completion also.
If carboard is cut to about exact measurement of pan sounds better than a large piece of cardboard allowing escape; correct? Probably secure cardboard to pan and hope animal does not flip it/drag it upside down for circuit completion for a long period of time if fuse does not blow.

Just guessing... Pictures???

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 03, 2023, 11:42:07 PM »
I have a E4 similar size but only 1 left after the wind, fungus, & normal drops. The 1 is about the size of yours.

However, 2  panicles bloomed and about 4 miniature bb size fruits are on it so maybe a late season possibility also on the reblooms.

Carrie trees have many many reblooms.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Grumichama blooming in S.Fl.
« on: May 02, 2023, 03:53:12 PM »
After the rains, I have 3 Grumichama in partial bloom.

So, check yours and water if not in bloom yet.

Hopefully will be able to eat a few in a few weeks before the fruit fly, etc., lay worms in them.

Also Barbados Cherry started blooming again after the long dry spell in S. Fl.


Couldn't bare to throw them away, I might make green mango salad

Wife has been using yellow cake mix and adding boiled mangos in directions instead of the water in the recipe on back of box.


Re: What two mango trees would you like to cross and have a Seedling
Reply #8 on: April 30, 2023, 11:07:36 PM
Quote by Orkine:::
... and here I was, thinking you (Honest Abe) just wanted Dwarf Fruits. :)

That idea of dwarf fruit may actually be desirable as my Large Fruit Punch definitely lost more fruit by falling off the tree during the winds vs. other mango varieties...

Really Large may not be a desirable trait vs. dwarf or average size mangos.

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