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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best orange\lemon tasting mango
« on: July 21, 2021, 10:12:44 PM »
strongest orange flavored mango is peach cobbler, that name should be changed. let it ripe to medium firm and taste it, if it is soft its gone too far.

Yes!  Its a super tangerine flavor.  I like its original nickname, "Oh Too" which is a spin off its 0-2 number.
Do you agree with the ripening procedure? If so this is useful to me. I have had 3 and probably let them go over ripe. Tasted yuck

Not sure what you mean by the "ripening procedure."  Do you mean by knowing when to pick due to the almost complete lack of color change?  I wouldn't let them get soft on the tree.  You do have to figure out the best stage to pick and then let it ripen off the tree.  If done right, they are fabulous.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carrie Mango Tree Top Work Project
« on: July 21, 2021, 09:11:03 PM »
Thanks everyone for the EXTREMELY helpful input and gave me additional considerations!   :D 8)

Yes we haven't started to cut the tree as we were determining the best approach. 

Based on the feedback, it sounds like our best chance for success will be to cut 1/3 to 1/2 of the main scaffolding branches (phased approach), wait for the shoots to appear, graft on to the strongest shoots, wait for all the grafts to harden, then at that point, remove either another 1/3 or 1/2 of branches, and continue the process. 

We will cut higher up on the scaffolding branches as Jake suggests to avoid having to prop fruit up from the ground and I'm thinking if the grafts don't take, then we can simply cut more of the scaffolding branch off to try again.

Rob - is your plan at this point with your tree to graft on to the new shoots once they show?

No, there already vaneer grafts done on those branches ala Walter Zill style.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carrie Mango Tree Top Work Project
« on: July 20, 2021, 08:50:17 PM »
Here is my current topwork Yi Xaun project.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best orange\lemon tasting mango
« on: July 20, 2021, 07:28:59 PM »
strongest orange flavored mango is peach cobbler, that name should be changed. let it ripe to medium firm and taste it, if it is soft its gone too far.

Yes!  Its a super tangerine flavor.  I like its original nickname, "Oh Too" which is a spin off its 0-2 number.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Searching for fruits in SW FL
« on: July 20, 2021, 12:39:24 PM »
I know there are quite a few places in Redlands/homestead for mangos. Some of the best in the area. Not sure about the names as I've never visited but heard from a number of friends.

Redlands/Homestead are SE Florida, not SW Florida.

I know but he said he's going to be checking out pine island soon. So since he's going to the east coast, he might as well check out redlands/homestead

I am pretty sure he meant Bokeelia, Pine Island, not Pine Island Nursery.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fiberless mango ?
« on: July 20, 2021, 02:20:38 AM »
I think almost every mango seed has some minuscule amount of fiber, especially around the circumference edge (that wouldn't be noticable other than by scraping the seed with one's teeth or scraping clean with the edge of a knife) but not that runs through the edible flesh.  I wouldn't qualify that as fiber free vs having fiber.

VP and Pickering both have a minimal amount of unobjectionable fiber in the flesh.  I have eaten literally hundreds of LZs and never seen any comparable to these with respect to fiber in the actual flesh.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 20, 2021, 01:54:09 AM »
I would love to see people eat fruit for the fruit itself  and not based on what a random machine says.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 19, 2021, 10:35:33 PM »
Those are some nice looking LZs Simon, thanks for sharing. Here are some almost ready to pick LZs on my second tree. My third LZ is a graft on Manila and holding only 1 fruit this season.





Tbat sure doesn't look like its close to being ready.

At least share a picture or some tips about when to pick.

The shoulder needs to fill out and color change to yellow (similarly to PPK).

I dont think I have any pictures of them hanging in trees.  I have a number of pictures after picking.

Here is one where shoulders have started to fill out but still not ready to pick.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fiberless mango ?
« on: July 19, 2021, 10:27:39 PM »
He did say "top tier."

And that term is extremely subjective,  to say the least.  To many, Carrie is top tier.  To me, bottom of the barrel.  Coco Cream is nowhere bear top tier, to me.  Why use Beverly and VP in the same post as top tier.

I do know people who say Ed wa ard, Harvest Moon and even NDM is top tier.  None of those make my top tier.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 19, 2021, 10:23:40 PM »
Those are some nice looking LZs Simon, thanks for sharing. Here are some almost ready to pick LZs on my second tree. My third LZ is a graft on Manila and holding only 1 fruit this season.





Tbat sure doesn't look like its close to being ready.

At least share a picture or some tips about when to pick.

The shoulder needs to fill out and color change to yellow (similarly to PPK).

I dont think I have any pictures of them hanging in trees.  I have a number of pictures after picking.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal LZ and NDM update 2021
« on: July 19, 2021, 09:18:33 PM »
Those are some nice looking LZs Simon, thanks for sharing. Here are some almost ready to pick LZs on my second tree. My third LZ is a graft on Manila and holding only 1 fruit this season.





Tbat sure doesn't look like its close to being ready.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Searching for fruits in SW FL
« on: July 19, 2021, 09:02:08 PM »
I know there are quite a few places in Redlands/homestead for mangos. Some of the best in the area. Not sure about the names as I've never visited but heard from a number of friends.

Redlands/Homestead are SE Florida, not SW Florida.

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I picked an OS about 3.5 weeks ago and it took 13 days before I cut in. It was still hard. So now itís a month later. So happens that on July 16th 2018 ZHPPís picked all their OSís and had them for sale in their office. I cleaned all mine off this past Friday July 16th too. Yes itís Orange Sherbet time. If only OS could have babies with Kathy can you even imagine how great those children could be!

Comparing dates like that doesnt mean anything. There are too many variables involved.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fiberless mango ?
« on: July 19, 2021, 08:25:36 PM »
Yeah, no fiber at all in Coco Cream or Beverly.

Valencia Pride definitely has some unobjectionable fiver, as does Pickering.

Others with no fiber: Carrie, Cecilove, Venus, Harvest Moon, Edward, Seacrest, Lemon Zest, Val Carrie, Mallika, Juicy Peach, NDM...I could go on and on.

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They look good.  Pick obe with the most color and see if it bleeds.  FYI...it shouldn't take 10+ days to ripen once picked.  If it takes that long to soften up, it was picked too early.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: LOGAN in the season for sale
« on: July 19, 2021, 07:48:00 PM »
Any other varieties besides Kohala?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mangos 2021
« on: July 19, 2021, 12:11:55 AM »

Had what I believe was labeled as Pairi Saly, or something like that. Very good.  Sweet, spicy, tad acid, no fiber. Has anyone heard of this mango, or something similar to that name?

Paheri, Pirie is a north indian mango, Green on the outside, round and very fiberless, but strongly alternate bearing, even less if grown in warm wintered climates.

That could be the one, it's well regarded, considered similar to 'bombay'.

You can also add White Piri to that group.  A descendant of Paheri that is Hawaiian in origin, its known to be better than its parent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mangos 2021
« on: July 18, 2021, 10:12:10 PM »
Well since you both jog my memory. I had one Son Pari  and I still have another one on the graft that I did last season.It is quite excellent. Also I finally had a phoenix at Peak now I understand why some folks like it so much. I now have much love for Karen Michelle and Venus and Cecilove. The Pina Coladas where quite excited this season. I still have K3 Kryptonite Dynamite Kathy and cotton candy in the hopper or finny box whichever term you prefer

A well ripened Phoenix is an excellent mango.

Let me know how your Cotton Candy is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mangos 2021
« on: July 18, 2021, 09:03:35 PM »
In order, kind of:

Ceci Love
Lemon Zest
Krypto/K3
Sweet Tart
early Orange Sherbets. The later ones haven'e been as awesome.
Kesar
Orange Essence
Sunny
Had some fantastic Mallikas, and several that sucked.
Probably left a few off the list.

Had what I believe was labeled as Pairi Saly, or something like that. Very good.  Sweet, spicy, tad acid, no fiber. Has anyone heard of this mango, or something similar to that name?

Did not have Pineapple Pleasure or PiŮa Colada this year, and yet to try a Sugarloaf.

One thing I've noticed with Sweet Tart is that it is hard to tell when ripe enough for perfect flavor, but its pretty forgiving and still really good when picked too early. A tad chalk has grown on me. Was told to look for yellow streaks.

Ceci Love was so good this year, did some chopping and added 9 more grafts to the Glenn tree. It already had 2, that are now 5 small branches.

Son Pari?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jakfruit looks sick
« on: July 18, 2021, 08:01:18 PM »
Itís been watered by the rain mostly, but if it doesnít rain for a few days and the soil seems dry Iíll give it a drink. I gave it some slow release fertilizer ( organic fruit tree mix) in the spring.

The rocks are used as a mulch (I canít handle or breathe actual mulch) and they actually keep underneath quite cool and help retain moisture. 

Iím not discounting what your saying, Iíll remove them and see if it helps and I appreciate the replies.

Rocks are typically not good "mylch" for fruit trees

I also winder if its getting too much water.  I know mist if Florida has been fairly wet in the last month plus.  I dont see the need for supplemental watering.   I also wonder if the organic fertilizer is giving it what it needs.  It may need to be hit with a decent fert with a good micro nutrient package (not sure what you have access to but when all else fails, a good palm fertilizer will usually work).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jakfruit looks sick
« on: July 18, 2021, 07:05:59 PM »
Thanks, I was told they like full sun, so thatís what I went with, I guess not this much full sun. Iíll get it some shade until itís more established.

I dont think the full sun is the issue.  Get rid of the rocks and then ficus on nutrition.

I am assuming its getting watered from our recent rains.  Does that area hold water?  What have you done as far as feeding it?  Was any weed killer sprayed on the rocks?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha Mango...
« on: July 18, 2021, 05:48:43 PM »
Last year, my Maha tree didn't have any fruits at all...had very few blooms and those fell off for some reason. This year seems much better.




That's look like my Maha tree. However, the fruit on my tree was red/pink on one side even not ripe, the fruits on your Maha are very green. I wonder if there are different Maha versions existed.

There is only one Maha.  Location and sun exposure will be the determinant of the pink/reddish blush.  I have seen many Mahas grown in interior Palm Beach County have no blush whatsoever.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I prune my indoor Cacao tree?
« on: July 18, 2021, 11:45:59 AM »
OK Rob, going to repot it today but can't do much about the humidity except I regularly mist it.

thanks

There are many creative indoor growers here.  Someone may be able to provide some input on how to create humidity inside your house in the winter without causing ill effects on your house.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I prune my indoor Cacao tree?
« on: July 18, 2021, 11:30:32 AM »
Grew from seed bought on Ebay, 3 out of 6 seeds germinated and only this one survived.  About 4-5 years old.  Living in zone 7a it is an indoor plant (i used to put it outside in the summer under canopy of bigger trees but it loves the heat of an attic bathroom closed off from the rest of the house.   In the winter its in my living room with the heat at 68 degrees daytime 60 night (I am frugal with heating costs).  It stays green in winter but no new growth.  Spring/summer it shoots up about 6" a year.  I would like a more compact shorter tree - can I drastically prune it - like half way?  And I would assume any pruning would be in the spring?   I have a Hass Avocado plant grown from grocery store fruit that I drastically pruned that put out side branches and filled out - but prob. will never get fruit so there was no risk.

I know the pot looks too small but I have checked and the root ball is small. 



The tree will need more humidity or it will be a lifelong struggle.  I doubt you will ever get a rootball to develop in that pot.  It is too small for the roots to develop.  The tree may also struggle from this before too long.

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