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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit Post
« on: March 20, 2021, 07:23:54 PM »
Chest height for me, and I’m 6’1”. If the branches get too long, just cut the tip off to stop them growing. This in turn causes the branch to thicken up and store energy for the upcoming flowers. Each to their own, but I never need a ladder to pollinate or pick.

Yes, I agree. I am not a commercial grower and appreciate easily managing them. I'm about to get going on my new ones in ground.

OP, I prefer redwood or alaskan cedar posts. These are cemented into the ground with a raised bed or pot by them. I thought about going concrete this time but realized it's a hassle if I want to rearrange or re-landscape concrete posts going to weigh a considerable amount and it would be hard to repurpose.

Hey John,

I don’t trust anything wood in Florida! I’ve had untreated posts fail in six months and treated posts fail after a couple of years. Cedar and redwood is pretty scarce around here and expensive if you can find it (I’m not sure if I would trust it to last more than a couple years anyway). I was pretty shocked at how fast wood rots down here, very different from out west!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dragon Fruit Post
« on: March 17, 2021, 09:44:22 PM »
After doing some research online and seeing approximately 20 million ways to support dragon fruit, I was left with a couple questions. First, it seems like six feet is the most recommended height; is that just to make fruit easier to see and pick, can I go lower? Second, I recently heard someone recommended not having a support at the top of the post since it isn’t necessary and will make it top heavy (I’m planning on making them with concrete), can anyone confirm that?

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I live in a college town with a lot of college students and sure enough this is one of the local frat boys.

When I lived in the north west we would burry little cups of beer in the ground and slugs would crawl in and drown themselves.  I think the same principle should work here, just scale it up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Different Flavored Bananas?
« on: March 14, 2021, 01:34:01 PM »
After being mildly disappointed by my Blue Java bananas (yes, they are real), are there any bananas that taste significantly different than grocery store bananas? So far all the bananas I have tried either taste like a slightly different stage of ripeness of a grocery store banana or are slightly softer or firmer.

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Rosigold (early) Pickering (mid) Honey Kiss (late)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Fertilizers do YOU use!
« on: March 10, 2021, 08:59:26 PM »
I believe Diamond makes fertilizer blends for the local alkaline soil here in SoFl.

I use worm castings, fish emulsion, kelp extract, compost, and a variety of organic and non organic products.

I missed this post earlier.  So let's take the diamond brand fertilizer for the local alkaline soil.  What do they put in it thats specific for alkaline soil?  Probably extra sulfer.  I guess someone could post the ingredient list so we could analyze it.  But thats the point I'm trying to make if you need to lower PH, you use sulfer.  If your soil is lacking boron, you add boron etc.  You do the same thing over here on the west coast.

I’m not sure if it’s done in fertilizer but different chelating agents are used depending on pH to make things like iron and copper more or less bio available. Copper can also be bound by calcium based rock so different forms could potentially used to avoid that. I’d imagine the form of nitrogen used could also make a difference. Ammonia (NH3) is more toxic to fish at a higher pH since at a lower pH it tends to form ammonium (NH4+). Nitrate NO3 doesn’t really care what the pH is but is supposed to be less bioavalible to plants. But again, I have no idea if any of this makes a difference with terrestrial plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dragon Fruit Fl Vs Ca
« on: March 08, 2021, 12:30:12 PM »
Most of the information online about Dragon Fruit seems to be coming out of California. Has anyone been able to tell if there are differences in how different varieties perform out west vs east? Are there differences in flavor, productivity, disease, vigor, etc?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: March 04, 2021, 12:42:21 PM »
leave the squirrels alone..
they were here before you and will be here after you, they are not an invasive species.. there are enough mangoes for everyone..

This is not entirely true. The Eastern Grey Squirrel has been expanding its range westward, most likely since it adapts well to developed areas and has been introduced to the west coast where it is invasive. Also, if you look at a map of it’s supposed historic range, there is a weird bubble on the west coast of Florida where it was supposed to be absent. I live in that bubble and have them tearing up my yard 😠. 
There would be enough mangoes to go around if they ate the entire fruit but they take a single bite out of each and ruin 10x their body weight in fruit a day.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: March 03, 2021, 09:51:40 PM »
Question regarding genetic variation in monoembryonic mango seedlings:
If you plant a monoembryonic mango seed from a fruit that was born in an orchard with homogeneous genetics, say the large Keitt or Kent mango orchards in Mexico or CA, how significant will the genetic variation be in the seedling tree when compared with the parent tree.  Will you pretty much get a Kent mango if both parents are Kents?

There is some genetic shuffling that goes on during meiosis so no, you won’t get the same thing.  You will get something somewhat similar but there may be enough changes in flavor, fiber, size, etc that the fruit isn’t worth while.

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The only one that is grown in any quantity over here is Mallika, very few people would have had the chance to try any of the others.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Recent cold and impact on local HLB
« on: March 01, 2021, 10:20:21 PM »
HLB does live in the roots. Heat treatments have been shown to be effective at knocking back the disease in the tops of plants but it comes back from the roots.

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Can anyone tell me what is going on with the Fruit Punch flowers? They seem to be curling or growing at an angle.






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Citrus General Discussion / Re: tanglefoot direct application experiment
« on: February 25, 2021, 07:44:03 PM »
I think the biggest benefit of having a backing is that you can remove the fouled tanglefoot and replace it. In my yard it gets gunked up with dirt, grass clippings, and dead bugs after a month or so. Sometimes I’ll put new tanglefoot over the old but I can’t do that more than once without making a huge mess.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Lychee Season
« on: February 23, 2021, 09:45:30 PM »
Last year my Sweetheart set and aborted a handful of fruit. I was bummed but since it was a little on the small side I wasn’t too disappointed.  This year when I saw activity on both my Sweetheart and Mauritius I got excited. A few weeks later all the new growth turned out to be vegetative and no flowers, this time I am disappointed 😠

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vegetative growth/ mixed bloom?
« on: February 22, 2021, 08:52:03 PM »
In my very limited experience, weird growth that is like mixed bloom without the bloom doesn’t die and fall off like a panicle and never becomes normal growth that supports other branches. After watching it do nothing for a long time, I eventually cut it off because it seemed like it was inhibiting normal growth.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Flower Visual Guide?
« on: January 31, 2021, 04:19:06 PM »
Thanks! You are correct about mixing copper and sulfur. I thought I had read of phytotoxicity due to bacteria  eating the sulfur which creates sulfuric acid and lowers the pH of the copper making it toxic to plants but now I can’t find any reference to it. I’ll have to see if I can find some copper soap!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Flower Visual Guide?
« on: January 30, 2021, 03:04:21 PM »
Does anyone have a link to a good visual guide for mango flowers? Ideally something with macro photos of male flowers, hermaphrodite flowers, fertilized flowers, normal dead flowers, anthracnose flowers, and powdery mildew flowers. I think I’ve been staring at my Rosigold flowers too long and I’m starting to convince myself something is wrong lol. Some of the flowers are turning brown and drying up and I’m not seeing fruitlets, PM, and I don’t think it looks like anthracnose. I’m guessing they were just not pollinated but my mind is wandering lol! I’ve been spraying with sulfur every week or two for PM since it’s been mostly dry but we have had some dewy mornings that make me think I should have chosen copper (I’m nervous about using the two too close together).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Refrigerated jackfruit seeds
« on: January 30, 2021, 11:29:53 AM »
Jackfruit seedlings like to root deep and don’t seem to like having their roots messed with. I’d go with an extra tall pot if you can find one. The seedlings I tried found their way out the bottom of a standard three gallon pot surprisingly quickly and dropped all their leaves when I damaged the roots moving them.

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I’ve been attempting citrus. All my trees are pretty young so I can say I’ve been successful or a failure other then a lemon tree that died from what I think was some kind of root problem. I’ve been growing them in partial shade, mulching them with oak leaves and spraying them with oak tea to try and ward off greening.  My biggest challenges right now are bugs and fertilizing correctly. Between leaf miner and Sri Lankan weevils I’m down about 40% of the canopy on some of my smaller trees. I’ve been under fertilizing out of fear of burning them but I think they are much heavier feeders than I’ve been giving them credit and starved. I sprayed them with urea and micros and I think that helped so I’m going to give them another dose this weekend.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best refractometer?
« on: December 10, 2020, 02:45:20 PM »
I’ve never used one for brix but Vee Gee makes the best handheld I’ve used for salinity.  The cheaper ones seem to work well enough but less durable.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Calcium for mangos?
« on: November 23, 2020, 05:37:14 PM »
I really like using tanglefoot for ants/scale and it probably wards off some other creepy crawlies too. It’s definitely more work than pesticides but still not too bad.  I put it on all my trees in spring time when the ants start expanding their territory, just need to take it off or move it mid summer to let the bark breathe/expand.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Germinating mamey sapote seeds
« on: November 01, 2020, 04:31:55 PM »
Press on the seed with a board until it cracks if it hasn’t started splitting already then the paper towel and bag method has worked well for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Blue bananas
« on: October 29, 2020, 02:52:08 PM »
If you feel like taking a road trip, I’ve heard Going Bananas sells fruit. I’d call before hand since they were closed down due to covid for a while and they may not have them ripe when you get there. Honestly though, I wouldn’t put in the effort. I just got fruit off mine for the first time last week and was pretty underwhelmed, they pretty much tasted like a grocery store banana.  The core that spaugh referred to wasn’t as bad on my bunch as some other backyard bananas (I’m guessing due to growing conditions) I’ve had but they’re smaller and harder to peel than a Grand Nain due to their thin skin.  I’m still happy with them since I get sick when I eat grocery store bananas but was fine with these.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too Early/Late To Plant Mangoes?
« on: October 26, 2020, 07:45:09 PM »
After months of waiting, my first success graft to a seedling started pushing growth.  Is it too late in the year to plant mangoes? Is it too early to plant this seedling? Should I wait until it flushes more?

How big/old is it?  Picture?

I’ve had problems posting pictures here but it’s small.  I sprouted the seed in early spring and grafted a few months later.  It’s probably around a foot tall and pencil thick. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Too Early/Late To Plant Mangoes?
« on: October 26, 2020, 02:30:14 PM »
After months of waiting, my first success graft to a seedling started pushing growth.  Is it too late in the year to plant mangoes? Is it too early to plant this seedling? Should I wait until it flushes more?

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