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Depends on how tall / how big the space, but a solid selection of eugenia planted in a ring would be a consideration of mine.

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Can I claim the Florida?

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I have read that starfruit prefers shade? Mine are doing pretty good in a not so hot spot sun wise.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party?
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:59:06 PM »
I may be coming down to SD for other reasons in the near future, but maybe will line up. I'm thinking of arranging one of these for Central Coast at some point too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name and shame trouble-making birds!
« on: June 21, 2022, 06:19:23 PM »
I've tried a bunch of different ways to protect newly planted trees from putting bricks and rocks around the base to plastic mesh guards. Though I will admit, I am often lazy and take my chances. One thing I've noticed is that the scrub fowl do not seem to be too destructive over the wet season. I assume there is no shortage of moist leaf letter for them to scratch around in. Interestingly, the birds seem to leave my mulberry tree alone. I never net the tree and basically never lose any fruit. I back on to a reserve and there is no shortage of birds around here.

Bizarre. Mulberries are their favorite here. They obliterate them just as they change color.

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I tried this with minimal success, and grafting the other way with cherimoya onto paw paw. Nothing worked long term. I hope you break that curse!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name and shame trouble-making birds!
« on: June 21, 2022, 01:56:01 PM »
American Robin bar none for me. They eat everything here, and often peck into green fruit. Everyone said that white mulberry was immune because they couldn't see it - they figured that out this year and I didn't get a single one. I have to bag fruit that I want to actually eat. The permaculture direction I went in, while certainly great for the trees, exploded the insect and bird population and now I rarely get fruit.

Bb gun?

There are no joke hundreds of birds in my yard during peak fruit season. Nets and bags, my only hope. I live deep in the national forest by a creek so there's a lot of wildlife action here. Luckily we have an overage of mountain lions so not much deer pressure... For now. That's when the gun comes out I've decided.

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Kevin, need to be in month of June 2019, but if no one post for June by the last day of June, then I will say the closest date to June 1st will get it. That will be for all three years (1st yr, 2nd yr, and 3rd year) so we will have 3 winners if no one registered on June.

The cross section of users who: have loquat and can graft, and who joined in June may be quite small - but I like the contest anyhow and hope there are 3 lucky users!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Name and shame trouble-making birds!
« on: June 20, 2022, 06:28:08 PM »
American Robin bar none for me. They eat everything here, and often peck into green fruit. Everyone said that white mulberry was immune because they couldn't see it - they figured that out this year and I didn't get a single one. I have to bag fruit that I want to actually eat. The permaculture direction I went in, while certainly great for the trees, exploded the insect and bird population and now I rarely get fruit.

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I joined TFF on May 10, 2019. Could I be in the running for 3 year?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: June 20, 2022, 03:23:04 PM »
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My natural mystic is also fairly dormant.  Do we not have enough heat?  Everything else is growing great.  Was thinking of pulling my NM as well.

Really confused. Last year it broke dormancy somewhat early. This year it still hasn't moved an inch. I think it may be a far more frost sensitive variety or something and it got really hurt this year in the cold.

I am more like inland temps at my house since it's on the 154 and it has been blasting 90+ for weeks. It's not heat related for sure at my house. Everything else is tearing it up and I'm afraid some of my trellises may collapse. There has to be at least 500lb of cactus on a few of them. Been adding more screws and trying to align the pots so they're absolutely vertical.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitomba Eugenia SP runners?
« on: June 20, 2022, 03:20:23 PM »
Post a photo, I am curious to see that. I have not seen root suckers from pitomba but do see them periodically from involcrata, uniflora, and especially from calycina.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Mulberry Identification help
« on: June 16, 2022, 01:00:21 PM »
Personally I don't know how Kaz does it... If I don't cover may fruit with netting the birds get first dibs on all the ripe ones... not really practical for a larger yard size tree.
Surely there are birds in SoCal?

Kevin

I have had to bag my pakistanis to get them. I live in a really rural basically national forest type area. Got none till I bagged them. Tree is too big to net now so the bagging is ok. I tried a peace offering of bird seed feeders somewhat nearby and they would stuff their faces with seeds AND mulberries... Sigh.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 16, 2022, 12:57:50 PM »
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Your tree look good. When it sends out red buds, or red new leaves, or leaves with red hue, it means the tree is very healthy. Good luck.

The fruits are indeed very delicious and very unique. Iím glad that you like them. Which variety did you try?

I think it is about to push right now, it has been on pause for a very long time in the peat moss I used to root it. Unfortunately many roots broke off when I up-potted it into FoxFarm, but it's still looking ok overall. The peat moss was maybe not the best medium for rooting and I would go 50/50 with FoxFarm peat next time, the peat didn't have enough nutrition and I think it held it back, even from building roots. It was just luck this one survived.

I got the black pearl variety from Calmei. Very good, but VERY expensive. For me it was worth it because I've already spent $400 on yangmei trees so I absolutely needed to know if it was worth this $ and effort.

In my opinion it is worth my losses and I'm very happy to have a tree despite all the heartache. I would try again if we got another good deal for big trees again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: June 15, 2022, 05:36:04 PM »



I up potted my lone biqi survivor into a spicier soil mix. It seems to be doing ok. I lost my other biqi and regret not just cutting it up into branches and grafting to the Californica I have. I will cut the male up and graft when it gets over the transplant shock and boosts again. 

I was lucky try 1lb of yangmei fruit and itís the real deal. One of the better rare fruits I tried with a near perfect balance of sweet, sour, bitter and very juicy. I get the hype now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papayas don't thrive
« on: June 15, 2022, 01:37:57 PM »
They look kind of normal to me if this is a new planting. Papaya leaves fall off at a rapid pace as the tree grows at least for me. They do not like being soaked that much so careful about overwatering. They are very expressive and will start to wilt a bit when it's time to water so I wait for that to be just barely happening then give them a good soak and let it dry before watering again.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Mulberry Identification help
« on: June 14, 2022, 06:41:25 PM »
My Tice was like that. The fruit doesn't look long enough for Pakistani to my eye. Tice had big leaves

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I collect pollen and store it in the fridge without any of the drying that others mention here. Works just fine for about 2 weeks. Some cultivars are much better as pollinators, s8 seems to be basically the one for me. 100% fruit sets.

Also having really good luck pinching the stigma after putting pollen in it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia smithii as rootstock?
« on: June 14, 2022, 06:35:21 PM »
I am definitely not the expert on this forum bit IIRC Eugenia do not show the same cross-species ease in grafting that appears to be observed with many other genus-

I know of at least one anecdote where different varietals of CORG do not graft well and they are, presumably, the same species

No problem grafting CORG cultivars: Ben's Beaut, ScottR's, onto my CORG from Exotica. Zero takes of calycina on CORG but Kevin Jones has been getting it done. I'll try grafting my orange eugenia onto my CORG eventually but it is flowering again so no slicing these days.

Each eugenia seems to be quite individual in its bark and growth habit so I am unsure of graft compatibility. I know FFF tried doing pitangatuba on pitanga and vice versa with no takes and pretty similar bark / fruit.

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A list of species with prices would be great.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: June 13, 2022, 11:33:02 AM »
I ripped out most of my dragonfruit plants and just kept S8 and american beauty.  I like dark star and a couple others but they dont self pollinate.  S8 and american beauty take zero effort.

This is disappointing news. I grabbed a couple dark star vines last year after tasting a couple. No fruit yet but I've been juicing them with extra N. The guy said they were self fertile but maybe they were being cross pollinated by his other varieties.

If it is legitimate dark star, it is not self fertile. Dark star is one of my favorite for flavor but it's not super easy for successful pollination. One of the harder ones for me. If I had more S8 pollen which is the super juice, maybe I'd have an easier time. I'm probably going to tear out my Natural mystic and replace it with S8. It has not revived since winter where everything else has. I liked the fruit a lot and self fertile but it seems dead.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sewer roots
« on: June 12, 2022, 06:22:12 PM »
Feed your nice trees root killer?  Hmmmm

How many feet of line from the house to the sidewalk? 

If its a short run its not that big of a dela to dig up and replace with 4" black plastic sewer line.  Never have to worry about it again.

I'm the same as Brad I guess. Fix it right once. I don't like worrying about stuff but I guess I can see the point if you're going to move out soon or something just take the path of least resistance.

It sounds like the main issue here is there are big productive trees above the pipes already and they cannot be re-located for work, so, it sounds its worth trying the foam? Report back your findings pre / post bore snake camera?

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Holly Tone appears to work well with jabos, and might be particularly helpful when planting in more alkaline soil.

I use it in my pots here to combat the high PH water and fertilize as well. It's good stuff for jabos and eugenia. I have not used Hollytone in my native alkaline soil and stopped acidifying my grimals. They are not PH sensitive the same as other cultivars I have noted. It's the best bet for CA, that's for sure.

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I have very alkaline former seabed sandy soil here in CA. I amended it with just chicken manure and mulch on top and not the hole. Popped a 1g grimal seedling in and it's happy as a clam. I think they are one of the most adaptable cultivars of jabo, especially regarding PH, and you may be overthinking your planting. I recommend against amending soil so much, and especially the use of peat as it can become hydrophobic over time.

At most I amend the hole with 50% foreign material. Lately I've just been digging into the sandy soil, plopping the plant in, and dressing manure up top. Works a treat.

Others in FL may chime in with more experience, just expressing how it's been for me here. I have been genuinely blown away by how fast it's growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sewer roots
« on: June 11, 2022, 10:00:30 PM »
I have heard that PVC is just fine for planting around. Maybe not something super girthy, or something you'll be bummed to cut down if you need to pull the pipe, but that root intrusion or the roots busting the pipe is basically a non-issue.

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