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Pods arrived today, thank you very much!

I've never had these before. Are they ready to eat now, or should I wait for any changes?

Go at them! The white coating that you eat should slide right off those seeds. I’ve never tested how long they stay good for off the tree, but I did my best to pick ones that were ready to go. Would love to hear what you think of them!

2/12 update
Thanks for everyone’s patience. We had some major storms last week so I waited for this week to harvest and ship. I shipped many orders and have sent updates to those orders which shipped today. More pods should be ripening over the next week, and I expect to have the remaining orders filled.

There are more pods on the tree growing, so put your orders in!

about 3 years for me from seedling to fruit

Wow that seems incredibly fast. My experience was closer to 5 years.

How much is it for 10 pods with shipping? You can PM the price

$30 + $17 usps medium flat rate

I love Matt's Giant sapote, probably the best variety in the states (though not much to compare to). Superb size and flavor and the OG tree is gorgeous. I wish my grafts had been successful; im too embarrassed to ask Matt for more scionwood lol.

But I was fortunate to get in touch with him and view his enormous farm in Homestead; he's put a lot of effort into Jacks and mangos. He expressed dissatisfaction with nurseries selling Matts Giant/Matt Snow since he had no quality control with that and someone supposedly shared that budwood against his directly expressed wishes. Anything on eBay is definitely not it.

If you have the opportunity to get in contact with him and/or travel down to Homestead, I would recommend it. Super nice guy and more than willing to share if you're kind and respectful.

Do you have a picture of the fruit?

Just received my Cuccio tree from Jeremy/RevivalR00ts earlier today. Packaging was very secure and tree is nice and healthy! Very pleased and would def recommend him as a reputable seller.

Looking forward to buying some scions of Vernon from you once it warms up where I'm at, thanks again Jeremy!

Hi Rumen, I truly appreciate your support and especially appreciate the kind words. I’m happy to hear the tree made it safely and I hope it grows well for you. That thing is ready for a transplant and I’m certain as soon as you do, you will see an explosion of growth. When you are ready to add more varieties, hit me up, this year, I should have quite a lot available.

I have some loquat scions I could cut. Pm me if interested.

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Are you really selling scions for profit you got for FREE that people donated for the Orange County Rare Fruit Growers Scion Exchange that took place last weekend? If so you should be banned from the event next year.

Wow, you really are bitter because of me pointing out your burkartiana listing. Pretty aggressive accusing me of that and threatening me. These are fresh cut to order off my established trees, so thanks for your concern.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the Burkartiana listing but I figured you would think that, I would call out anyone who sold scions from a free scion exchange that are meant for peoples gardens and not meant to be sold for profit. What a surprise you’re denying it...especially when I saw you walking around with a giant bag at the exchange...I hope I’m wrong and you’re not really that low, but I have talked with a couple forum members who have dealt with you and they both said you’re shady.

You have no basis for accusing me of taking these scions, which I’m offering here, from the CRFG scion exchange. I have two large trees from which these scions will be cut. I don’t appreciate the false accusations.

My basis is I saw you stuffing your giant bag and now all of a sudden you’re selling the same exact scions that were at the exchange, interesting timing! And to top it off I didn’t see you donating anything! It pisses me off because I donated scions, and those scions weren’t meant to be sold. I wonder how many members missed out on scions because of your greed. It’s not right what you’re doing.

The only Mulberry Scions, that were there was Shangri-La and Pakistani. None of the other ones were offered there. Since I already have those varieties growing, I did not take any Scions. If you would like a video of me, cutting the scions from the trees as I fulfill orders, by all means. And I guess you know everything because since you didn’t see me donate all of the grape scions that I did it didn’t happen, right? You are way off course here.

Are you really selling scions for profit you got for FREE that people donated for the Orange County Rare Fruit Growers Scion Exchange that took place last weekend? If so you should be banned from the event next year.

Wow, you really are bitter because of me pointing out your burkartiana listing. Pretty aggressive accusing me of that and threatening me. These are fresh cut to order off my established trees, so thanks for your concern.

Hi all,

Just my point of view. I have spoken to many collectors and experts in Brazil. Many agree that the purple fruiting species is the true Eugenia burkartiana. I have chosen to start using Eugenia sp. "Pitangão Amarelo da Unicamp" (I need to update our listing, I do admit) to identify the yellow fruit Helton has provided to the community.

This is directly from his website:
"INDIGENOUS NAME:  PITANGA-ACEROLA (because it has a similar taste). It is also called the Yellow Pitangão of Unicamp."

Furthermore, if you refer to the botanical archives the leaves and native region of Eugenia burkartiana align with the purple fruit found by Fabio in Santa Catharina

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:98140-2

This is an ongoing discussion that I believe is still somewhat undecided. I think it is more important that the community is informed. Joe, Kam, and I imported the seeds around the same time, and at first, we all were following Helton's distinction. As Joe has stated Helton has vast knowledge and is one of the most trustworthy collectors in Brazil. But, science and botany are ever-evolving, and sometimes names need to be updated and the community informed (I have put this explanation in my eBay listings of Eugenia sp. "Pitangão Amarelo da Unicamp"). No one is intentionally naming species incorrectly. Both of these species are very special and should be in any serious Eugenia collection.

Another option is to distinguish based on the collectors:
Yellow fruit: Eugenia burkartiana "H. Josue"
Purple fruit:  Eugenia burkartiana "F. Longen"

I hope this helps!

I appreciate the clarification Steve! I think it’d be important to maintain ‘Yellow Pitangão of Unicamp." That will help to keep the distinction between the two.

Truthfully have a hard time trusting ID's unless its from a source that has background in botany/systematics.  I think there's a lot of people in the fruit world that are basing IDs on sight alone whereas it is a much more complicated process than that. I.e. a lot of the psidiums that have gone around/are in my collection have very dubious ID's

Totally hear ya. I definitely could not tell you what is what, but from a standpoint of keeping consistency of what is what going around, those are the names that have been stated. So I guess until proven otherwise, it’d make sense to maintain those names.

Ya man 100% Positive. Seeds were purchased from the man himself Hapa Joe in June 2022. In case you didn’t know he actually goes into the jungle and collects the seeds HIMSELF, so these cane directly from the source, no middle man. So how would you like to pay Jeremy?  😉

So I confirmed with Joe that yours it NOT the same as what’s being sold on eBay by both Kam and Steven as Eugenia burkartiana. Yours from Joe is what’s pictured.


Lol and yes, by the pure definition of middle man, you absolutely purchased from a middle man. But anywho, now there are some questions as what Helton has described as burkartiana is different than whatever source Kam and Steven are getting as Burkartiana.