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Mangos








Sorry, typed & then removed a picture & forgot to retype... White flesh & yellow flesh last picture are both Okrung just one riper and both were sweet with yellow being a little sweeter but more brown/black spots to spit out.

Most okrung have the butt crack. The top of the butt crack near the stem often turns whitish yellow while the rest of the fruit is still green. Look for that clear white appearance on greenish fruit if wanting to pick before falls off.

Both fruit tasted good in the last picture and both were sweet but more of a sweet limey taste in the green fruit and other riper was sweeter with a stronger peeling taste.

Once off it proceeds to the brown/black spots, sort of like us on our arms when we get too old; so eat quick. If I wait a day too long, I usually bite through the black spots and pull them and the fruit downward off the seed and then spit out the black/brown material on the skin and still get a pretty good taste. It's easier than picking/pulling/cutting it off with a knife as you lose too much. Anyone who eats fish head soup without batting an eye should be able to do it... lol...

I've only had one year that fruit was on it July and the later fruit like most varieties is usually better and also bigger size trees have better odds of sweeter fruit.

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I really don't have a Favorite as it changes too Fast... lol

But, after about 6 years, I got 5 DOT mangos to try... All were great but I ate them fully ripe... It's in the top 10 list for me...

After 7 years, my first two phoenix mangos were average mangos for me so not worth the wait IMO.
Update::: The remaining Phoenix were much better and I did enjoy eating phoenix when left on the tree till overripe and fully colored (first phoenix were partially green skin). Still not happy with low productivity at my location without spraying.

Orange essence grafted onto 4 other trees surprisingly were more pointed shaped than round and were ripe before the original orange essence tree that I bought with big round mangos and growing slow since holding so many fruit per it's size. Two other people agreed that it must be orange essence since not orange sherbert (good also but creamier) and I have only two Orange tasting choices that I grafted onto other root stocks over 2 yrs ago...  Both excellent mangos in my todays top 10.

Pickering took a big fall as only 1 of about 8 tasted this year had any hint of coconut and were just average mangos so they are way out of the possible top 10 list (never really in it)

I'm still super in love with Carrie and it stays in my top 10.


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I like Keitt much more than Tommy Atkins

A German youtube taster was surprised the new Spain grown Keitt are in his opinion better than Osteen also grown in Spain::::   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tiPe4gcqSQ

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 16, 2023, 10:05:52 AM »
This year the glenn have been real good or real bland. I've never seen
such a contrast.
Now that my Glen have been producing over 6 years, most of these trees only produce sweet fruit from the beginning of the season. A few may be less intense for first week of bearing fruit.

Years ago before mature trees, the fruit was bland sometimes for a few weeks.

This year sweet intense peachy flavor for approximately 99% of the fruit of Glen.

I tend to get a similar effect with other varieties not being as intense flavored the first week of that tree bearing fruit. If the tree is young, a much higher percent chance of diminished flavor especially first week. However, many older trees have good fruit flavor from the beginning of fruit harvesting.

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Fast Growing?

A tree like Pickering that is often loaded with fruit especially if a young tree, will grow slower.

For me, Pineapple Pleasure held zero fruit the first 6 years and thus it was very fast growing.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 12, 2023, 12:19:29 PM »
 :)   The Carrie Twins    :)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: June 09, 2023, 11:33:17 AM »
Cutting and eating my first home-grown Sugarloaf now!

Consensus from me and the wife : excellent, but overripe. Picked when was yellow in one spot. Uneven ripening as always but really good and coconutty. The over-ripe by a day thing shorted us on the pineapple flavor and I missed alexs instructions on when to cut it. Great mango I’ll let y’all know how the rest of them are.
I have 1 large similar so it is probably ready by how it looks compared to yours. (2 late bloom fruit are at the top but half dollar size only). It looks like the ripen from the inside and bottom by your cut open E4. So should I check the bottom for softness of just pick and eat when lenticels look whiteish or something else?

Galations, I eat the peeling on Florigon, ripe sweet tarts (none yet), Carrie, okrung, and a few others.

In the past my Pickering was a slow grower and the fruit so so with a lot of fungus on everything. This year 2 pickering have tasted very good with coconut hints as many have previously described over the years. I am assuming the tree being larger has helped it with it's current flavor change but unsure except it is good tasting now vs. the past 6 yrs IMO.  *** So this is a reversal on my opinion of Pickering***

IMO the older the tree, the better tasting the fruit in most all cases for the variety eaten.

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 :)  Peachy Glen Mangos For Sale   :)

Mango Farmers sell those mangos...

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After 2 years being planted in the soil or more:::
1.Especially people in Southwest Florida after hurricanes, did the planted air layered trees survive the winds/diseases/plant pathogens/etc. as well as traditional grafted rootstock mango trees?

2. Did the air layered mango trees bear as well?

3. Do you think the air layered  mango trees fruit tasted as good as similar aged traditional grafted trees?

4. Once planted in yard/field soil, did or do the air layered mango trees require special care with more water/nutrients/minerals/ etc.  vs. traditional grafted trees and for how long if any extra care required?

Thanks in advance for your opinions...

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 ;)   Getting old or the trees are getting big, or both... Hasya now is getting round fruit shape on one or more as in picture... So if in a container I would not be able to tell which is hasya or morena after I picked them... lol...

Oh, IMO they both taste the same also for Hasya & Morena fruit or so close unable to tell the difference.

Hasya tree picture with fruit and leaves chewed from Sir lanka:::



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only Morena tree:
first picture of fruit is pretty large and close to round ending 44 number. All the others are same tree and may or may not get large and round on the Morena.











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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 03, 2023, 02:09:58 PM »
I enjoy the vanilla cream filled glazed type donuts and it would be easy to change the filling to mango flavors.

But a lot of the current cream fillings taste awful and I usually do not want to chance it.

Just remember to keep the dough as glazed doughy is the best.  ;)

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It seems like my Haysa was a little longer
it looks more like my Morena fruit
I have a large Morena & Hasya tree and a few other variety and there is no way that I could tell by the picture as to what variety that fruit is if either or even another variety.

My Large Hasya tree always has the football shaped fruit.

My Large Morena tree can have Large football shaped fruit but if they get larger, the fruit becomes round and not football shaped. So my largest Morena are almost always round.

By weight my largest sapodilla has been large round shaped Morena in my yard and not Hasya. Probably depends on how many fruit per tree as Hasya have been close in weight
 many years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 03, 2023, 11:51:58 AM »
There is no substitute for Krispy Kream donuts.
My wife prefers the cake donuts as well as ice cream with multiple tastes vs. my favorite vanilla bean.

Down to business buddy, She & You are WRONG... haha... just kidding... Everyone is right on their taste bud palate...

So far 8am Glen mango & 11am finished off the 2 delicious Glazed donuts after 30 sec. microwave meltdown.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy donut day
« on: June 02, 2023, 09:05:51 PM »
Well........ It's the Real Deal to me this morning so off I went to Walmart for a Box of 12 glazed Donuts....

And they were worth it.... Ahhhh Good, soft, sweet, delicious, mouthwatering, sensational, unbelievable, fantastic, Colossal, monumental, unforgettable....
***DONUTS***

Picture added... I had some help today, but only 2 left in the Box.... lol







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I love data from prior years and events... Opinions ... lol... All have one or more...

Back on topic::: Yes I got rain today and yesterday and yes the ditches are holding water and yes the soil is saturated.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJv1IPNZQao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOKElp_jGLQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI&t=119s
lol......... Just started skimming through 1 st video and I gotta say:: I Love It  ... Someone who actually shows the tabulations of data .. Yea...
I checked out what he says about the 1930's being hotter in the summer than recent summers and sure enough NOAA has verified the data.
Look at the all Time Records tab.
If those temps had occurred last summer or this summer.... Current Gov't would have made us all get on our bikes or walk... lol...
https://www.weather.gov/arx/heat_jul36

Graphics / MapsTemperatures (July 5-18, 1936)All-Time Records
All-Time Records Set in July 1936

Location   Temperature   Date
Decorah, IA   111°F   July 14
Fayette, IA   110°F   July 14
New Hampton, IA   110°F   July 13
Mondovi, WI   110°F   July 14
Richland Center, WI   110°F   July 14
Rochester, MN   108°F   July 11 & 14
La Crosse, WI   108°F   July 14
Lancaster, WI   108°F   July 14
Viroqua, WI   108°F   July 13
Hatfield, WI   108°F   July 14
Osage, IA   107°F   July 14
Friendship, WI   106°F   July 14
Grand Meadow, MN   106°F   July 14
Mather, WI   106°F   July 14
Neillsville, WI   106°F   July 14
Sparta, WI   106°F   July 13
Medford, WI   104°F   July 13

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Rise and fall of ocean levels is interesting as is how to get a mango tree to grow and taste best as a lot of factors often totally different than the other factors are affecting both.

Interesting to consider plate tectonic movement as one of the possible variations of land above and below sea level. It seems satelites monitoring curvature of the earth and land mass above sea level would be helpful and they probably are today by some. Also many many stationary points around the land portion with gps etc. should belp with an idea of is more land above sea level or not.

I could see big cracks possibly forming deeper oceans with more land. I could also see the reverse... lol... Have AI solve the riddle...

In a video I just watched showing someones view of the earth billons of years ago seems to inititally have less land, then as time nears current time they project more land, but in the future they turn around and project less land again with a lot of ocean water in the amazon basin and North Americas great lakes region.... Not sure why initially land was rising and future projection for oceans rising due to which factors is not presented in video as the world turns with time lol...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango allergies - home remedies?
« on: May 31, 2023, 09:02:36 PM »
Wash with soap & water to remove as much as possible as soon as possible.
My favorite home remedy is pulled from the medicine cabinet: hydrocortisone 1%  cream or ointment and applied on affected area if no medical contraindications with your health.

Benadryl taken at maximum recommended dosages (may cause drowsiness) if no medical contraindications.

Don't wait to treat it. Vesicles can form if a severe allergic reaction and go to physician for stronger prescription medication. Also, stop scratching/rubbing as you may start to believe your skin is being slowly eaten away, especially if vesicles rupture and raw skin is scratched/rubbed....

On prescription many steroid oral products in dospaks 5 to 12 days different paks and is good to stop local and systemic spread. On prescription many stronger topical steroid products to rub on affected areas if only a local topical reaction.



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It is very unusual for me to see a google search with the wrong answer to a common question but IMO here is one:

Wood from trees, like stumps, branches, and limbs will take a very long time to decompose, upwards of 50-100 years if left whole.Oct 11, 2019

IN S. Fl the above is FALSE at least for laurel oaks (water oaks).


I'm not sure as to why anyone would say this long long period of time as I am sure 7 years ago I killed a tree and it rotted and fell over about 6 months ago.

Anyone believing it would take 50 to 100 years would probably hire someone to remove and haul off the tree... I believe in recycling wood back into the soil and thought all should know at least in South Florida expect 7 years for most trees to rot and fall over once dead IMO. (No need to have it removed unless codes require removal).

Dragon fruit enjoyed climbing it before it fell over and are still growing through the fallen pile of sawdust/wood.

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Mites... Sulfur... Spray...

Did your tree with the infected limb have 1/5 tree of fruit, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2,2/3, or a loaded tree of fruit? Just wanting to know what impact it had on the tree... Also is the 1 limb 1/10 of the tree, 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, or 9/10 of the tree...

Some mangos have various disease spots etc. etc. etc. but if the trees give me fruit.... I won't throw in the towel. Same with any other fruit tree for me anyways... Just wondering percentage of tree infected and impact on fruit production while it is still living....

To me, it sounds like the state is also willing to live with it as I believe they think it will not go away and it will just be a constant battle with never destroying the mite...

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Stop.....Check Again.... Your Kids will not be happy in the Pool.............


Renovations
The following facilities or services will be unavailable from May 10 2023 to July 31 2023 (dates subject to change):

Swimming pool

https://www.reservations.com/hotel/the-wyvern-hotel?rmcid=tophotels&utm_source=googleads&gclid=Cj0KCQjw98ujBhCgARIsAD7QeAj3o9dqVhIaZY5DYZ8luhPs2lSX8V9xITXRG7Sc7s-VanM7G8gDSQQaApYcEALw_wcB


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I'll jump in here,  PPKs are sweet and citrusy. They kind of don't even taste like a mango, but I don't mean that in any negative way. My only criticism is that its production is quite variable for me. This year I got zero PPKs! That said, my tree is still pretty young. Still, I would never be without a PPK tree.
Interesting, as I also have a light harvest with less PPK's this year vs last year.

Almost all other varieties have more fruit this year vs. last year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: May 25, 2023, 11:07:35 PM »
I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.

In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really?  Are you sure they're Kent?  Kent is the original fiberless mango.

Brain fart. Keitt, not Kent.

lol..... Too funny...

But, let me help you out as both keitt and kent have little fiber and I enjoy both when home grown but they are often with little taste in the supermarket due to shipping/when picked/etc. etc. etc.

Perhaps Tommy Atkins as also in supermarkets and are known to have more fiber which makes them firmer and lowers bruising/smashing during shipping

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/tommy-atkins
Also look over the other varieties at Alex's site.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sea weed
« on: May 23, 2023, 08:48:07 PM »
Poisoning Fear, panic, etc. etc. etc.   
Take it with a grain of Salt..

Google foods that contain Arsenic and decide if you really want to eliminate them all from your diet, also many nuts, etc. etc. etc.

You are unlikely to find anyone paid by government, universities, etc. to tell you anything other than it can or might accumulate with prolonged ingestion/contact/etc. and can eventually in High amounts in the body cause ... death.

But many other common minerals/metals in vitamins taken daily can also be toxic if in too high amounts in the body...
Googled:::

 "
What metals build up in the body?
Disease Overview

Many of the heavy metals, such as zinc, copper, chromium, iron and manganese, are essential to body function in very small amounts. But, if these metals accumulate in the body in concentrations sufficient to cause poisoning, then serious damage may occur.

Moderation in everything as too little or too much of many many things can kill these carbon based bodies... lol

The carbon atom is the essential building block of life. Every part of your body is made up of chains of carbon atoms, which is why we are known as "carbon-based life-forms." Chemically, we're just a bunch of inert compounds.Feb 6, 2015

Decrease the worrying... It'll come .... eventually...

Be thankful and enjoy each day as I'm sure most of us do...



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