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Re: Yangmei on Sale ---> WEEE
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2025, 11:08:45 PM »
I think the fruits are nice to eat fresh, but they are more suitable for processing just like raspberry, blackberry, and blueberry.  If you want to invest in long term, think processed goods ( juice,wine,dry, and candy) at large scale.

Short term would be growing to sell cuttings and plants like Figaholics did.  These is because they are vigorous grower type of plant.

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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2025, 11:39:31 PM »
Thanks Kaz for the detailed fruit pics! If they become available in the Bay Area I'll have to buy a box.

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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2025, 01:00:54 AM »
Thanks Kaz for the detailed fruit pics! If they become available in the Bay Area I'll have to buy a box.

They are available in the bay area. Got a box to try.

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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2025, 02:08:58 AM »
Thanks Kaz for the detailed fruit pics! If they become available in the Bay Area I'll have to buy a box.

Is bi rite near you? That’s where they were originally released and only sold there until last year when Harvey had enough to supply weee for shipping.

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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2025, 02:18:50 AM »
I have always thought of pawn shop owners as sinners.  Here is another one, yangmei farmers, taking advantage of the others in bright daylight.  Price not justifies the cost.

You clearly have no idea about economics. Either do I, but I do understand the concept of supply demand. There’s essentially zero supply in a huge demand. If somehow it gets to the point where it hits the main stream it obviously will not be that much.

I do have some understanding of supply and demand, and capitalism.  After all, I have spent a good portions of my life living under communism, socialism, and capitalism looking for quality of life.

As far as the cost of maintenance, I would not imagine, in China, that yangmei costs 5 to 10 time the price of longan , lychee, etc... A decent comparison would it costs more to maintain yangmei over fig?

Anyway, like Kaz said, before jumping on the wagon, buy the fruits; eat the flesh; and sell the seeds to help recover the cost.

I shouldnt have come off so harsh like that, but you also shouldn’t be so harsh to our fellow fruit grower and ONLY COMMERCIAL YANGMEI PRODUCER, Harvey, and Calmei/ Charlie, for making it even possible for many of us to try yangmei. Without them, there would be very few people eating fresh yangmei here in the states. They for sure should not be labeled as you have stated.
I don’t have a ton of yangmei experience, but I can tell you that I have spend many thousands of dollars specifically on yangmei and I don’t have much to show for it. A few trees still alive and barely growing, not even close to fruiting yet.

Do you know how long China has been producing yangmei? I don’t know how much they sell fruit for in China, but they have a massive production over there, which I hear has surpassed apples.

All I k is is that I am enjoying ya gneiss so much which is why I have no problem shelling out like I have. I can only hope that it continues to gain traction and that prices will drop and everything yangmei will be widely available.

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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2025, 09:45:16 AM »
They require so much work in terms of maintenance and the manual labor involved with harvesting is insane compared to other common crops.
I am curious what are the extra maintenance requirements for yangmei when growing commercially outside of the harvest season?

Harvest season incurs much of the cost but because Yangmei is such a new crop, the initial investment for grafted trees, soil conditioning, consultations, etc are also very expensive. Depending on what rootstock you use, the soil requirements are different and certain rootstocks take longer to reach commercial production.

Once the trees are in ground, not all trees may survive so you have to purchase replacement trees. Once your trees are large and in full production, there is a lot of costs involved with pruning the trees because they grow so vigorously.

That’s not even the half of it, I do some Yangmei consulting and don’t want to get into the details but just before harvest season, if you haven’t prepared properly, you could easily lose much of your crop.

Hey Simon, I’m just curious and it’s not questioning your abilities or experience but I’m wondering what your credentials/experience is with yangmei to where you have all this proprietary information and provide consulting to what sounds like large scale operations for growing this? Obviously you have container growing these dialed in and I wish I was even a fraction as far along as you are with these!

Im a get your hands dirty kind of guy so much of it is through personal experience and trial and error. This is after doing years of research of course. Unlike many of the sellers out there that are simply importing trees from China and reselling them, I have successfully grafted hundreds of trees on various rootstocks.

I have field tested hundreds of trees, lost hundreds of trees. I also have data from research articles tgat give suggestions on soil nutrient analysis and soil pH suggestions that I have proven to be false when growing in California. I have many trees that were given to friends spread out around California to test survival rate when grafted onto various rootstocks and I have performed fertilization experiments as well.

I also did plant research specializing in both plant growth promoting mycorrhizal fungi/bacteria and also pathogens. With Yangmei, you can’t just read published articles from Australia or China because there soil, climate and bio burden is very different than ours.

I highly recommend people experiment and test out for yourself. Also, take careful note and document everything. Yangmei is a new crop in the USA so we have to do some trailblazing.

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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2025, 12:52:52 PM »
Simon, that’s awesome, thanks for taking time to give more insight on your experience. In the end, whatever it is that you’ve done, your results speak clearly of how dialed in you are with them and most of not all are dying to get to where you’re at. Keep on keeping on man!

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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2025, 02:02:48 PM »
I do appreciate yangmei farmers for bring this fruit to the west.

Maybe I'm too harsh on the yangmei farmers because I think their approach is wrong. If you want to spread yangmei to the mass or become a fortune 500, you don't want sell at a price where consumers have to pay with an arm and a leg.  You want to sell at decent price, even cheap, even free samples, even at a loss for early stages of company.

Follow proven models.  Take Costco for example.  There are lot of free samples of food.  If consumers like the taste, they grab them at a decent price.  They will come back for them even after the sampling period is done.  Costco even throw a $5.99 rotisserie chicken at a loss to lure customer to come.  And when they come, they might end up buying that products , besides the chicken.  These things tie together.

Anyway, sorry for getting off the topic of this thread.

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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2025, 03:24:35 PM »
Perhaps when supply outstrips demand, we will see a price decrease in these fruit, but they are selling out within hours suggesting they could charge more. 
I hope no one gets the impression that agriculture is a wealth generating economy.  Most of us do this as a hobby, but if you are looking to build a Fortune 500 company, I would discourage you from farming.
I appreciate the civil discourse in this thread.  With all the yang Mei growing failures, we need the support group for sanity.

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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2025, 04:01:52 PM »
I don't think anyone here wants to start or thinks it's possible to start a fortune 500 yangmei company, but I bet a lot of people (including myself) would be interested in starting a small scale orchard as a means to make enough to survive haha

Sounds like that is within reach for less than the average home in my area  :-X

I think by far the biggest problem is risk, firstly you risk literally not even being able to keep the trees alive, then you risk water regulation changing and you can't irrigate anymore, if you make it past the pests and challenges to get fruit then you have 5 days after hand picking before it's mush and unsellable.  Finally you face competing orchards once more people figure out how to grow them.  Look at the price avocados sold for in California in the 80s and 90s before the market finally corrected due to the flood of fruit from Mexico.

I really enjoy reading through these sorts of threads for folks thoughts and opinions as well

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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2025, 04:52:37 PM »
Ok, enough of the small talk. This thread is to say you can buy the fruits again on WEEE.

I just checked and it looks like they have more in stock, but you must change the date to Thursday for my area and it shows qty=15 is available. So maybe they are limiting sales to only 15 boxes for Thrusday- Sunday.

I already got my 2 boxes, I will wait until they have the other varieties to buy again.




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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2025, 06:50:05 PM »
I guess parcel shipping isn't even possible?  I only see Local Delivery as an option, if I enter my zip as 90210  :D

But somehow I don't think it will reach me when I fill in my real address three thousand miles away.

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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2025, 06:55:11 PM »
I guess parcel shipping isn't even possible?  I only see Local Delivery as an option, if I enter my zip as 90210  :D

But somehow I don't think it will reach me when I fill in my real address three thousand miles away.

They spoil super fast. Sometimes overnight after ordering. While the plastic clamshell is probably slightly better than cardboard, it also is full of condensation so I am wary that they will survive. I think ice pack + overnight ship, maybe survive? Bout to be $100 delivered, I'd guess, for 30 fruit.


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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2025, 06:58:24 PM »
Ah, well.  Maybe I'll visit CA or China during yangmei season some year.

I paid a fortune for a box of fresh maprang fruits once, and they were actually amazing and renewed my interest in trying to grow it.  But if yangmei can't survive shipping then there's no point.
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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2025, 07:07:36 PM »
Ah, well.  Maybe I'll visit CA or China during yangmei season some year.

I paid a fortune for a box of fresh maprang fruits once, and they were actually amazing and renewed my interest in trying to grow it.  But if yangmei can't survive shipping then there's no point.
They shipped pretty well for me last year.
I would go ahead and give it a try.
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« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2025, 07:13:54 PM »
I guess parcel shipping isn't even possible?  I only see Local Delivery as an option, if I enter my zip as 90210  :D

But somehow I don't think it will reach me when I fill in my real address three thousand miles away.

They spoil super fast. Sometimes overnight after ordering. While the plastic clamshell is probably slightly better than cardboard, it also is full of condensation so I am wary that they will survive. I think ice pack + overnight ship, maybe survive? Bout to be $100 delivered, I'd guess, for 30 fruit.

I have never had them spoil that fast, in fact, they seem to last quite a bit. I store them in the fridge, they’re better cold anyways.

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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2025, 07:26:14 PM »
35$ for half a pound shipped to me.  Is it worth it?  Tempting but seems really steep. 
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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2025, 07:26:43 PM »


Got mine, taped shut on both sides.

Says it was field packed on the bottom and to wash first. Excited

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« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2025, 08:32:55 PM »
Are you guys getting them shipped from sayweee.com via USPS/Fedex/UPS??  When I add them to my cart it says Local Delivery.  I see zero options for parcel shipping.  I'm worried that if I actually try to order and put a shipping address in Pennsylvania they will just not fulfill it and I'll have to go fight for a refund.

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« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2025, 08:44:35 PM »
Are you guys getting them shipped from sayweee.com via USPS/Fedex/UPS??  When I add them to my cart it says Local Delivery.  I see zero options for parcel shipping.  I'm worried that if I actually try to order and put a shipping address in Pennsylvania they will just not fulfill it and I'll have to go fight for a refund.
I’m pretty sure it only ships to California based on what others have said (sadly 😭)

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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2025, 08:52:36 PM »
Are you guys getting them shipped from sayweee.com via USPS/Fedex/UPS??  When I add them to my cart it says Local Delivery.  I see zero options for parcel shipping.  I'm worried that if I actually try to order and put a shipping address in Pennsylvania they will just not fulfill it and I'll have to go fight for a refund.

You won't have to fight them for a refund. They sent me defrosted "Frozen" Musan King Durian and refunded it in no time.

A+ company

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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2025, 08:59:41 PM »
Ah, yeah if I try to check out when I enter my actual address in PA it says "no items in cart".

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« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2025, 09:49:32 PM »
Are you guys getting them shipped from sayweee.com via USPS/Fedex/UPS??  When I add them to my cart it says Local Delivery.  I see zero options for parcel shipping.  I'm worried that if I actually try to order and put a shipping address in Pennsylvania they will just not fulfill it and I'll have to go fight for a refund.

The have a private delivery driver guy.
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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2025, 09:55:27 PM »
35$ for half a pound shipped to me.  Is it worth it?  Tempting but seems really steep.
If you e never had, totally worth it. If you have had, totally worth it.

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« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2025, 10:02:42 PM »
Brad, it is $27 each for 3 boxes, and you can sell the seeds for $1 each and recover the full amount.

I just ordered a few more boxes for Friday in case someone in closer states can't get it. Shipping to nearby states takes about 2-3days. Cold pack should help it stay fresh or not get spoiled.

 

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