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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: Radoslav on April 20, 2018, 11:43:13 AM

Title: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on April 20, 2018, 11:43:13 AM
It's time to continue ... http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewtopicc951.php (http://citrusgrowersstatic.chez.com/web/viewtopicc951.php)

right now, I got two new cultivars (released in 2012).

Sweet SicilyŽ /clementine Comune 2x × Tarocco 4x/
(https://s7.postimg.cc/r589eqzqv/Ibrido_Sweet_Sicily.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r589eqzqv/)

and

Early SicilyŽ /clementine Oroval 2x × Tarocco 4x/
(https://s7.postimg.cc/j2a33ezpz/Early_Sicily.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/j2a33ezpz/)

both can form an anthocyanic pigmentation, in the form of reddish streaks, caused by cold temperatures, in the pulp.




Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Lory on April 20, 2018, 09:59:14 PM
I'm born italian and i LOVE them especially the clementino !
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on April 21, 2018, 04:24:33 AM
Mandarossa is the new commercial name of Mandared, a hybrid between Clementine and Tarocco, developed in Acireale in 1985.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=sk&rurl=translate.google.sk&sl=it&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.freshplaza.it/article/68800/La-clementina-Mandarossa-della-siciliana-COA-Srl-riceve-premio-allinnovazione-di-Fresca-Group&xid=17259,15700019,15700124,15700149,15700168,15700173,15700186,15700201&usg=ALkJrhjFk6kNpcLsiccHEeqKedS98Cj3ow (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=sk&rurl=translate.google.sk&sl=it&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.freshplaza.it/article/68800/La-clementina-Mandarossa-della-siciliana-COA-Srl-riceve-premio-allinnovazione-di-Fresca-Group&xid=17259,15700019,15700124,15700149,15700168,15700173,15700186,15700201&usg=ALkJrhjFk6kNpcLsiccHEeqKedS98Cj3ow)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Ilya11 on April 21, 2018, 04:42:07 AM
Renamed because it is not really red?
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Sylvain on April 21, 2018, 07:08:01 AM
In italian, rossa (rosso) means red not pink...  ;)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on April 21, 2018, 10:21:04 AM
(https://s9.postimg.cc/u8zb5g78b/Italy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u8zb5g78b/)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Lory on April 22, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
It sounds vert interesting hopefully it has the bright red color of tarocco orange and the woderful taste of clementino :-)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on April 22, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Lory on April 22, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
It sounds vert interesting hopefully it has the bright red color of tarocco orange and the woderful taste of clementino :-)

No flowers on my plants now, so I am looking forward for the crop from summer flowering.
Description says, that taste resembles mix of tarocco and clementine.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on September 29, 2018, 08:54:34 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/VdF9zbvc/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdF9zbvc)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Lory on September 29, 2018, 01:18:18 PM
NIce trees if you remove some weeds they will be very thanful to you :-)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Laaz on September 29, 2018, 02:52:30 PM
The mandered fruit look excellent! Too bad they are not available here.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on October 14, 2018, 06:15:59 AM
Members from Australia can reach the Early SicilyŽ /clementine Oroval 2x × Tarocco 4x/ cv.

http://www.anfic.com.au/portfolio-view/early-sicily-c1867/ (http://www.anfic.com.au/portfolio-view/early-sicily-c1867/)




Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Luisport on December 30, 2018, 05:44:10 AM
Quote from: Radoslav on October 14, 2018, 06:15:59 AM
Members from Australia can reach the Early SicilyŽ /clementine Oroval 2x × Tarocco 4x/ cv.

http://www.anfic.com.au/portfolio-view/early-sicily-c1867/ (http://www.anfic.com.au/portfolio-view/early-sicily-c1867/)
Hello my friend! In terms of flavour and size what's the sweetest and bigest variety? Thank's!
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on February 12, 2019, 03:44:12 AM
Good info:
http://www.ivia.gva.es/documents/161862582/165534201/4+-+Citrus+breeding+and+cultivar+development+at+CREA%2C%20Italy.pdf/8d4107f5-dd28-40fc-9fca-37ef1fe8b793 (http://www.ivia.gva.es/documents/161862582/165534201/4+-+Citrus+breeding+and+cultivar+development+at+CREA%2C%20Italy.pdf/8d4107f5-dd28-40fc-9fca-37ef1fe8b793)
nice pictures there
(https://i.postimg.cc/G4wZTyqc/manda.png) (https://postimg.cc/G4wZTyqc)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: raggashack on February 15, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
fantastic link thanks

the sun red cultivar looks interesting :) have u found a source to buy yet?
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: snek on February 16, 2019, 02:03:49 AM
Tangor  "TaCle"


(https://i.postimg.cc/0rqp0KM7/2019-02-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rqp0KM7)

Overripe fruit is quite pigmented. But I'm not very excited. Fruits badly hold on to the plant. The ripe fruit quickly loses its quality
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on February 16, 2019, 02:05:54 AM
Quote from: raggashack on February 15, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
fantastic link thanks

the sun red cultivar looks interesting :) have u found a source to buy yet?

According to info from Council for agricultural research and analysis of the agrarian economy, Centro di Ricerca Olivicoltura, Frutticoltura e Agrumicoltura (CREA-OFA), OTA9 (Sun Red) is still under trials, so not released for nurseries. I hope this year situation will change.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on February 16, 2019, 02:11:30 AM
Quote from: snek on February 16, 2019, 02:03:49 AM
Tangor  "TaCle"


(https://i.postimg.cc/0rqp0KM7/2019-02-14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rqp0KM7)

Overripe fruit is quite pigmented. But I'm not very excited. Fruits badly hold on to the plant. The ripe fruit quickly loses its quality

Fruit drop and post harvest decay are well known problems of Tacle cultivar.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kHsVNRJ/mapa.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kHsVNRJ)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: raggashack on February 16, 2019, 05:18:46 AM
radoslav u have the good info, thanks man
lets hope its available to buy soon... cant wait to have it. deeply pigmented fruits are always a must have for me.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on November 28, 2020, 02:59:29 AM
First crop of Early SicilyŽ /clementine Oroval 2x × Tarocco 4x/

Weight  of fruits 144-150g.
Easy to peel.
Seedless.
Tastes like sweet navel orange.
According to this article needs several weeks in 5°C to form red pigmentation.
https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/1206147/Early-Sicily-C1867-mandarin.pdf (https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/1206147/Early-Sicily-C1867-mandarin.pdf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/t1BggvBc/early-Sicily2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1BggvBc)


(https://i.postimg.cc/HjcLp2XS/early-Sicily36.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjcLp2XS)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on November 24, 2022, 05:51:37 AM
Early Sicily turned to nice red this year.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cKPx9fw9/IMG-20221124-111438.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKPx9fw9)
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: BorisR on November 25, 2022, 03:58:00 AM
Rodoslav, congratulations on the harvest. How does it taste? At what temperatures did it ripen?
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on November 25, 2022, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: BorisR on November 25, 2022, 03:58:00 AM
Rodoslav, congratulations on the harvest. How does it taste? At what temperatures did it ripen?
Temperature around 10'C. Tastes like very sweet orange.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Florian on November 25, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
Early Sicily looks very nice, congrats! You say it tastes like a very sweet orange. Is there also enough acidity or not?
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Radoslav on November 25, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Florian on November 25, 2022, 02:35:34 PM
Early Sicily looks very nice, congrats! You say it tastes like a very sweet orange. Is there also enough acidity or not?
Yes, it is sweet and acid at the same time.
Title: Re: Pigmented hybrids from Italy.
Post by: Mike Jennings on December 19, 2022, 10:05:22 PM
I’ve been admiring the Italian pigmented clementines from this nursery.

 https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/clementines/ruby-clementine-citrus-clementina/ (https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/clementines/ruby-clementine-citrus-clementina/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/p5FzLnXq/6-A432-E97-FD9-B-46-B5-AB53-A79170642358.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jw9yThKD/9-D9-C9152-03-FF-4427-A249-3-DF20-AD2-AC10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jw9yThKD)