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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 30, 2023, 10:57:25 PM »
Your plant is growing nice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 30, 2023, 08:27:30 PM »
That is good to hear. Yes, please post a photo of the plant.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfi Coast Lemon ID
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:46:33 PM »
That fruit looks correct. I heard that they are not all the giant size fruits.

I will post a few green fruits and leaves for you to compare.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Passiflora-quadrangularis Challenge"
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:44:26 PM »
Any more updates on the rooted cuttings?

I have some bad news on my large vine, it died, probably to much stress when I cut it back so much. Or it could have gotten broken in the main trunk area and I didn't see it. Either way, my large vine is dried up and dead now so my Pomelo can grow strong again.

Lucky for me I had the 2-3 cuttings I started in water to show how to root them so I can start over with those plants now.

So, hope your cuttings are doing well, you may be the only one to have this unknown variety and can give it a name when it has the first fruit, hopefully next year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:46:32 PM »
If anyone else had success with this passion fruit, please post some photos of your fruit, and also let me know if you have a good way to protect the fruits from the critters that like to eat them just when it is ready to pick.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:45:12 PM »
Here's my update on the fruits that actually made it until ripe without any critters eating them.

I hand pollinated as many flowers as I could daily, what a lot of work, but very exciting when I saw the small fruit set in about a week. I covered every fruit with the organza bags.

After the fruits started getting larger, now I had to wait until it ripened as Ron and others had said. It was not quite brown yet, just starting to show some light color (not green any more). Then I noticed one by one the larger fruits were getting holes one the side or the entire half of the fruits were eaten through the bags. So, I double bagged the remaining fruits, and they were still getting eatten through the bags. Tried brown paper lunch bag, it didnt work, so I just let them grow until I saw a slgith brown to dark brown skin to pick them.

The good news is I did end up getting 13 nice size fruits that seems to be ripe now. The bad news is I started out with 37 fruitlets so I thought I should get about 30 good fruits to send out one to each friend on the forum, sorry that won't happen this year.

I will post some photos of the fruits later tonight.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hand Pollination - passiflora decaisneana
« on: November 29, 2023, 02:37:02 PM »
Yes, you can eat the rind, here's an excerpt from Hoang who gave me my first cuttingis that turn into this large vine with many fruits this year.

"Passiflora decaisneana is the hybrid of passiflora quadrangularis (giant granadilla) and passiflora alata.  Its rind is edible.  The arils are sweet (a little sour), excellent taste. "

You do need to hand pollinate the flower (self) or you will not get fruits from my experience this year. Also, for me here in SoCal, the vine flowers from July - November, but the flowers that are hand pollinated in July/August are the ones with fruit set the best.

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Oh, didn't realize it was you Thien, if I have my next Younghan's Gold fruits (have green fruits now) then I can send you a few. All the other varieties right now have just some small fruitlets on the grafts. I will send you a PM when my fruit is ripe.

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greenerpasteur, sorry, I only have my smaller trees that have the yellow sapote rootstock (seedling) and my McDill seedling (that is grafted with c.tetrameria) so both of these trees do not get that large. I have over 20 varieties on each tree so there are not enough fruits on the trees to share, I barely get to taste each one to post photos here for the taste comparisons.

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I have not read those articles. I just wondering myself why some varieties such as Younghan's Gold has yellow flesh when ripe but the leaves have no fuzz underneath it. There are some named yellow sapote that can be distinguished by the wooly leaf (CT#6, #7. my seedling Maddox) and the trees do not grow fast, stays small after 5 yrs. The taste of the fruits seems to be different to me when I eat a know white sapote and compare it to the yellow sapote.

I suppose if it white sapote is a cross between the two then there would be no way to categorize it as either.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: November 28, 2023, 12:07:49 PM »
Yes, definitely could be from an existing named variety.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kumquats seedlings dying
« on: November 27, 2023, 09:35:03 PM »
The weak ones die, the strong ones survive. I plant all my seeds in a community pot and the ones that remain are the strongest. Also applies to loquat seeds I plant.

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Fishie, you can tell from the leaves. The yellow sapote leaves have the fuzzy/wooly bottom side so it's pretty easy to tell. But no, you can't look at the seed and differentiate between the white and yellow seeds.

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Ok, sounds good.

I haven't seen the FB (Harvey's) page before, thanks, doesn't seem like it is current. Also, Marta has a very good review when she has chance to taste the white sapote. From her blog, I heard about Harvey's seedling variety he calls B3 (Delta Gold) and got that one grafted on my tree.

There is another database on the White Sapote, someone here posted from it before.

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Ok, just checked the leaves on the Younghan's Gold, it is not wooley so I guess it is a white sapote even though the flesh is very yellow.

Younghan's is top 3 in taste for me. The best Florida white sapote I have growing on my tree. Vey productive, as soon as it finishes fruiting, it starts again, I have many fruits on it right now. Highly recommend it for those who can grow only a few varieties. The other excellent variety is the C. Tetrameria #7, very productive and excellent flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: November 27, 2023, 12:00:34 PM »
Just had a few Clytia white sapote frutis, taste was excellent, it has a small shpe like a potato, like to take some photos and post it.

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Reedo,

I will trade you 3 cuttings of my seedling yellow sapote (C. Tetrameria) for your Walton cuttings. My Walton grafted branch is very small so I need to add more on my multi-grafted tree.

The taste of my yellow sapote is good, better than average tasting.

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I will post some photos of another fruit I tasted, not sure if it is a yellow sapote or white.

I will also double check the underside of the Younghan's Gold tree and report back if it is wooly.

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Reedo, Michelle is not dwarfing. I was told the large white sapote tree at the OC Fairgrounds which is about 15-20ft tall is a Michelle. It seems to be a normal size tree. I'll look for a photo I took and post it here for you. Fruit tastes good, not excellent. So maybe just average tasting to me, nothing stands out in the flavor.

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Thanks for the info on Clytia and Bob Chambers. I ate the second Clytia and it was just as good as the first on. The fruits are not large but still tastes like the best yellow sapote I ate so far. I will post some photos of the fruits later.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Check out this guys YouTube Channel!
« on: November 26, 2023, 01:08:16 PM »
Nice, subscribed..

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Hi Jack, yes, the yellow sapote from you tastes very good. I also got to try the Clytia fruits and I think that was even better. I have one more Clytia fruit (small one) I picked and will try it soon.

So far, the C. tetrameria #6 is growing slowly and I have not had any fruits on those grafts yet.

I do agree with you about the rootstock and using the C. edulis rootstock and grafting with C. tetrameria. I have some seedling rootstocks (from CSUF arboretum fruits) of both C. edulis and C. tetrameria. The large seedling tree I had growing in my son's yard was the McDill seedling, that tree grew over 20 ft and trunk grew large (5-8" diameter) in 7 years. On that tree, I grafted most of my 34 white sapote varieties except the C. tetrameria.

At my yard, I had the same seedlings from CSUF of the McDill and Yellow Sapote, but these were grafted earlier (3-4 yr old seedlings) with a combination of C. tetrameria and C. edulis varieties (24 total). All four of these trees have never grown taller than 10 feet, and the trunk size has stayed smaller (2", 2",3", & 4" diameter). So, it does make sense to graft them at an early age with the Casimiroa tetrameria to keep the tree smaller.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kishus Are Doing Well This Year!
« on: November 25, 2023, 03:52:09 PM »
Wow, nice tree Kevin, I like the Kishus a lot, but don't get many like yours.

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I agree with Jonah, this is the best place. I got all of my 34 varieties (now 26) from our forum members. Jonah got me started with many of my white sapotes, then got the rest from our senior members here.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Happy Thanksgiving !!!
« on: November 23, 2023, 09:05:27 AM »
Ryan started this post last year so I'll start it for 2023.

"With this year almost to a close, maybe we could share what we are thankful for in regards to tropical fruits"

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1) I'm thankful for the new fruit friends I made along the way this year and tasted some new fruits like the wampee (Al), pinapple guava (Nate), Angelito fig (Thera), Pipino fruits, Crystal seedless guava (Max).

2) Learning from some fruit experts in the field, Max, Thien, Al, Nate, Thera, Johnny, and many others here on this forum.

3) Very thankful to my knee surgeon who fixed me up and now I'm back to easily climbing ladders and digging out large trees again.

Happy Thanksgiving folks.

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