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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: xie shan satsuma
« on: September 18, 2022, 04:13:32 PM »
I bought mine from Briteleaf. It developed gummosis, has not been a healthy plant. My meiwa from them is fine though. I don't like how tall and lanky the trees came in though, for container I prefer a shorter form.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: September 16, 2022, 12:45:48 PM »
Mine is in the ground this year, it bushed out a little and grew a new central leader. Hoping it will be hardy, it's surrounded by an evergreen shrub in an L shape so area is pretty sheltered. House is right beside it. Plant in the back is maypop and there are strawberries in this bed. Don't know if I should remove the strawberry and maypop.




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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrids in zone 7a after a low of 12f (-11c)
« on: September 08, 2022, 06:53:17 PM »
looks good, might just protect the bottom of my trees since they are too big now.

my prague is about the same size as yours so hope mine will flower next season

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrids in zone 7a after a low of 12f (-11c)
« on: September 08, 2022, 03:23:12 PM »
I had bark splitting with Poncirus+ on own roots but not the one grafted to regular Poncirus, they are planted in different parts of the yard so not sure if the one is getting more southern exposure. Have you tried painting the stem/ trunks with white paint to reflect some of the sun? Thinking of doing this. My citrumelo did have some bark damage on the southern exposure but has already healed over

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrids in zone 7a after a low of 12f (-11c)
« on: September 08, 2022, 08:39:53 AM »
I grafted them in the spring, so it will be interesting to see what will happen after winter especially to the Prague which grew about 25-30 cm on tai-tri compared to my one grafted to Poncirus that barely grew at all. The FFT on tai-tri put out a leaf and stopped growing. And the Morton only bud swelling on the scion. Will post pictures soon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Confused with guava tree.
« on: September 05, 2022, 08:51:27 PM »
 I bought a Mexican cream guava from home depot as well and so far it's only made green fruit without any sweet flavor at all, never turned yellow. We'll see what happens next season lol

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Brocks farms NJ citrus
« on: September 04, 2022, 08:04:03 PM »
Those are some sweet trees! I'm late to see this post but would have been worth the two hour round trip for something of that size at that price

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: The most hardy non trifolate citrus tree
« on: September 04, 2022, 07:39:53 PM »
Prague Citsuma, is a chimera of poncirus and some kind of mandarin. It produces mandarin like fruit without the poncirus flavors. I have one outside in 7a, will report on survival after this winter.

Changsha is very hardy although you still need to protect it in 7a.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: SunDragon
« on: September 04, 2022, 09:39:43 AM »
Haven't been able to find any other info on Sherman, even emailed the professor at the university that created it directly but did not get a reply. Figured since Sherman is deciduous it might be hardier than SunDragon. Florida does not have a budwood program for home growers only for commerical growers unfortunately

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 02, 2022, 03:58:35 PM »
I haven't tried growing maypop in a container, but my edulis vine did fine in a 3 gallon for 2 years and gave me 30+ fruits. Started another cutting from it and will probably toss the main plant since it's outgrown the pot and not producing, I don't want a bigger container to carry inside. The cutting I took has flowers on it now but the main plant does not, figure since it's root bound. Your maypop will be happier in the ground so definitely plant it when you can.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora incarnata
« on: September 01, 2022, 02:25:52 PM »
The vine with the smooth ovaries produces oblong fruit. Shape is more distinct while they are smaller and still growing, almost look like a banana passionfruit. The flavor is not as good as the round one on the right. But something very interesting about it is the smell, I get hints of pawpaw and banana.



side by side with the other vine





You will know very quickly if it has set, and to me it looks like it has! I noticed that your vine also produces fuzzy ovaries, my other genetically distinct incarnata vine has ovaries that are smooth:

original vine with fuzzy ovaries:








new vine: smooth ovary (before pollinated, and after)








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava dropped fruit
« on: August 30, 2022, 02:42:16 PM »
Ah ok that seems to be the general consensus. Hopefully the fruit will be worthwhile when it finally produces one to full maturity.

How are you pruning yours, I'm assuming you have it in container as well? This one seems to want to grow in every direction, and the wind keeps causing the whole plant to lean over in the pot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava dropped fruit
« on: August 30, 2022, 08:30:57 AM »
Hmm so the "Mexican guavas" I've seen at the grocery store are small and round, these two fruits are pear shaped. Could be mislabeled or a different "Mexican" variety? The inside was white when I bit into the fruit, and seeds were fully developed.

I have the plant in full sun, it appears to be an air layer as I don't see a graft. The fruits are lowest on the branch which probably did not get full sun due to being shaded by the leaves. Maybe the tree did abort the fruit too soon and the heat softened it up?

Here are some pics, it's in a 3 gallon










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Guava dropped fruit
« on: August 29, 2022, 07:53:14 PM »
Bought a guava labeled as "Mexican" two fruit set in spring, today one fruit dropped while still green, more of a light green.

It was soft and juicy, but 0 sweetness. Tasted like tomato, I thought these are supposed to turn yellow?




Here is the other fruit, hasn't dropped yet

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Kumquat x Poncirus
« on: August 29, 2022, 03:14:17 PM »
Just did Hindsii x poncirus+ (dry pollen)





I have a little bonsai/ year old hindsii cutting noticed several flowers today.

My eyes hurt. Biggest issue I had was the dry pollen would not adhere to the paint brush

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: new thoughts on breeding hardier citrus
« on: August 26, 2022, 01:38:24 PM »
My potted kumquats take around ~8-9 months to ripen fruit, turns orange around winter but still needs time to sweeten up into the spring once I bring them in my grow room, except the hindsii which turns orange in half the time? Point being what good is a hardy tree if the fruit will freeze to mush before it's ripe.

For a fully outdoor (unprotected) cold hardy citrus in zone 6 & 7 especially, fruit will need to ripen before hard freezing otherwise if you're going to go through the trouble to protect the fruit while it ripens you might as well grow the non-hardy types with delicious fruit hehe.

Marumi kumquats on Poncirus trifoliata and Flying dragon are said to be safe to 0F with leaf loss and down to 10F with no damage.  I am in Zone 6 (-10F) which is to cold.  The length of winter cold is also to long causing desiccation death in citrus.  In zone 8 a polar vortex will drop to 0F and the Marumi losses leaves and the winter cold is 2 months shorter so the tree doesn't desiccate before growing in spring.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gummosis problem
« on: August 17, 2022, 12:01:00 PM »
Let me know what they say, can't be coincidence that we both have infected plants from them

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Gummosis problem
« on: August 16, 2022, 11:40:17 PM »
Hi frank, my grafted xie shan satsuma started doing this over the winter. i bought "gardenphos" which is a systemic fungicide (phosphorus acid) did a leaf spray made  and a soil drench over the course of the winter. so far there has not been any more gummosis from that tree and I haven't noticed it in any of my other plants. Not sure if it was already infected when I purchased it (BriteLeaf) or if it caught it from the enviornment here in NJ. Apparently its phytophthora that causes it and it starts at the roots so treat your soil. it can also enter tree wounds so make sure nothing splashes any cuts or scrapes on your trunk or anywhere you did a graft especially if its going to rain.

also what is your potting medium? does it stay wet for a long time?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical fruit in Pot
« on: August 04, 2022, 03:55:37 PM »
Taste is subjective but some tropical/subtropical stuff I have fruiting right now I grow in 3-5 gallon containers:

Mexican guavas, I bought a rooted cutting that was a foot tall and now have about 6 fruits ripening on 3 branches in a 3 gallon container fruited in the spring when I bought it.

Feijoas fruiting now after 2 years. Really fast growing but they do need chill hours, I had to up pot to 5 gallons.

Meiwa kumquat, in my experience, smaller citrus fruit like kumquats or key limes work well in a container because they give a lot of fruit (40+ fruits in a 3 gallon). And you can eat the whole fruit peel and all.

A little more difficult but passion fruit in pots work for me, but they need something to climb. I have to wrap the vines back into the container and bring the whole thing inside which is not ideal but I get 30+ fruit in a 3 gallon. Need to up pot these to 5 gallon soon.


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My kumquats tend to drop fruits from the first flowers, it will shrivel up and drop although there will be a fruit here and there until the second flowering which tends to hold most of the fruit. Not sure if it's a temperature or pollination situation maybe both.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing under LED’s
« on: July 29, 2022, 07:03:54 PM »
I grow under LEDs in the winter and actually my new leaves get huge but chlorotic / yellowing does not happen if anything I get leaf drop before I notice this.

Outdoors if my plants have been getting constant water esp since the heat is having me water daily, I do see this on the new leaves and I assume its nutrients washing out or a PH change like you said causing uptake problems. It eventually corrects itself since I do apply diluted fertilizer once or twice monthly with watering. Try lightly fertilizing if you haven't already.

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My Yuzu stump had this as well after cutting it to live wood at ground level. I just rubbed it off and left one shoot that came up from the base of the stump.

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My turunji is back from the dead via cutting. Battling spider mites now.

Did anyone get fruit yet?





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You can dehydrate and store in air tight jars. Can also sell some on the forum :)

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