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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #300 on: November 14, 2013, 02:23:11 PM »
I have got some jabos that I need to post pics of...

I have some peculiar seedlings that popped up...I can't identify them...so it's exciting for now...that is, until the leaves revert back to normal, and I realize what they are!  or maybe I'm lucky...and have a new variety...I think it will be a little of both.

I also have a grafted tree (scions taken from my friends tree) that I can't identify....it reminds me somewhat of truciflora, but the leaves are fuzzy when young...and fuzzy on the undersides when mature...also, I've seen the mother tree flower, and they don't hang from stalks...so it can't be a variety of trunciflora.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #301 on: December 21, 2013, 10:58:48 AM »
As of right now I don't have pictures of my jabo collection bc it would take some time, but I promise to work on that and get something up.  Over the past year I have acquired the following trees; m. Aureanna, m. Grandiflolia, m. Coronata restinga, m. Sabara (of course), m. Glaziovana, vexator, m. Truncilflora, m.  Spirito santesis, plinia edulis, red (hybrid) and some stuff from pine island labeled sabara X and crown 1, 2, 3.  Most of this is thanks to Adam! Lol.
Now I was looking on e-jardim and heltons website and wanted to know if anyone is collecting the following Jabos; myrcianthes pungens, m. Phitrantha ( really want to find this one), and m. Oblongata?
Sorry for the spelling guys. Anyway most of my trees are small or seedlings but I have two Grimals on the verge of fruiting, and 4 reds that are fruiting and my sabaras are fruiting as well.  The other stuff will take anywhere from 5 to 10 years :/  what is everyone's jabo collection looking like?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #302 on: December 21, 2013, 11:22:16 AM »
If it's not to late I'd like to join Adam.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #303 on: December 21, 2013, 05:29:52 PM »
If it's not to late I'd like to join Adam.

it's never to late to join...I'm glad you realize you have a problem.

too many damn species of myrciaria/plinia to collect!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #304 on: December 21, 2013, 06:26:56 PM »
Unfortunately, I have become a jaboticabaholic. I have at least 100 pots full of jaboticaba seeds and seedlings of so many species and hybrids I never new about. My plan is to have lots of different jabs planted out at the family farm, Turing it into a sort of PYO jab heaven. My grandfathers azalea collection has had its day. The soil should be perfect for them and is some of the best alluvial soil in town

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #305 on: December 21, 2013, 06:48:16 PM »
BMc you and me both. I have 13 species and a number are seeds in pots. Some of these species have numerous varieties that I have recently acquired. M.trunciflora I had 6 varieties, M.coronata I had 5 varieties and similar numbers for M.jaboticaba and M.cauliflora. I have given away most varieties of these 4 species as I really only need a plant or two of each species.

If the seeds all come up I can officially retire from jaboticaba acquisition.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #306 on: December 21, 2013, 07:35:56 PM »
Bmc, what varieties man? Sounds like you have a heck of a collection!
Mike T I didn't realize Truncilflora had different varieties? I wonder what I have, I bought 2 seedlings from Oscar and seeds from Oscar as well.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #307 on: December 21, 2013, 08:05:33 PM »
kgk look at the link in the other jaboticaba thread that BMc posted. It mentions a few varieties and relationships between them. Most of the time just species are identified not varieties. I thought that white jaboticaba was just one species until I got seeds from 2 named types. Unfortunately only one white type came up.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #308 on: December 21, 2013, 11:39:20 PM »
I think a whole book could easily be written on just all the different jaboticabas. I wish one of our Brazilian brothers would do it. I will mention it to some of them to try to encourage them.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #309 on: December 21, 2013, 11:46:23 PM »
We gotta get Helton on this forum!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #310 on: December 22, 2013, 05:54:55 AM »
I think a whole book could easily be written on just all the different jaboticabas. I wish one of our Brazilian brothers would do it. I will mention it to some of them to try to encourage them.

It will be great, if the book can be written sooner. I can't  wait to have one.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #311 on: December 22, 2013, 05:56:58 AM »
We gotta get Helton on this forum!
Not easy as he doesn't speak/read english.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #312 on: December 22, 2013, 07:09:57 AM »
We gotta get Helton on this forum!
Not easy as he doesn't speak/read english.

Does he speak google translate?  ;D

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #313 on: December 22, 2013, 09:32:25 AM »
Mike T, I read that article, it's interesting.  Truncilflora is one of my favorites just based on how the tree grows.  It's unlike any other of the varieties I have. Really all them either have subtle or more pronounced differences in the shape of the tree, etc.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #314 on: December 22, 2013, 05:16:57 PM »
We gotta get Helton on this forum!
Not easy as he doesn't speak/read english.

Does he speak google translate?  ;D

Obviously not because he has someone else handle all his english correspondance. Not everyone wants to bother with google translate. Anyway like the saying goes, a lot is lost in the translation.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #315 on: December 22, 2013, 10:31:00 PM »
I think a whole book could easily be written on just all the different jaboticabas. I wish one of our Brazilian brothers would do it. I will mention it to some of them to try to encourage them.

It will be great, if the book can be written sooner. I can't  wait to have one.

I'm planning on writing a short book about jaboticaba, but I'm still a few years away from being ready.

It won't be as extensive as a book you'd get from Lorenzi (et al) but it will have some good information (and pictures) about all of the jaboticabas in the USA (of which I believe I have the most diverse collection in the country...and possibly the whole world, outside of Brazil).

I would also include a section about how to propagate them, and what some of the graft compatibilites are.

I wish I could get started sooner, but I'm still trying to get my story together.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #316 on: December 22, 2013, 11:08:27 PM »
Saff now you have to tell us how many species and varieties you have and which ones you are still chasing.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #317 on: December 22, 2013, 11:45:25 PM »
Saff now you have to tell us how many species and varieties you have and which ones you are still chasing.

Here is what I can tell you...without listing everything.

I have over 20 different varieties and species,

but I only have about 15 different species. (some are species I can't identify)

I will be getting a few new species and varieties this year, but only about 3.

Some I don't have, and don't care much about getting...and the ones I'm still after, I keep quiet about!  so I don't increase demand before I get my share!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #318 on: December 23, 2013, 12:21:32 AM »
Saff it seems there is much afoot in the world of jabs and even some underground seeds being acquired.I think there may well be more species and varieties that are good to eat than many jaboticaba enthusiasts realise.

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« Reply #319 on: December 23, 2013, 09:00:13 AM »
I think a whole book could easily be written on just all the different jaboticabas. I wish one of our Brazilian brothers would do it. I will mention it to some of them to try to encourage them.

It will be great, if the book can be written sooner. I can't  wait to have one.

I'm planning on writing a short book about jaboticaba, but I'm still a few years away from being ready.

It won't be as extensive as a book you'd get from Lorenzi (et al) but it will have some good information (and pictures) about all of the jaboticabas in the USA (of which I believe I have the most diverse collection in the country...and possibly the whole world, outside of Brazil).

I would also include a section about how to propagate them, and what some of the graft compatibilites are.

I wish I could get started sooner, but I'm still trying to get my story together.
Adam you really do a good job. Having a jaboticaba book is fantastic for me. I do not have a book that introduce jaboticaba in details so far. So I really really want one. Looking forward to your book ready :)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #320 on: December 23, 2013, 02:55:45 PM »
The story of how I became a Jaboticabaholic is a tragic one.

It was a dark and stormy night and it twas I who was craving jaboticaba.
The fruit on friends tree had turned a violet purple and I was drawn to
devouring it. Juicy and succelent, with rich overtones... it was perfect.
Then I couldn't stop, I got three trees tasted more and more jabo until
the season was over, I was doomed. But shalt I get revenge!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #321 on: December 23, 2013, 05:51:00 PM »



How dark should a red hybrid be at peak flavor and ready to pick?

This is my first fruit from this tree.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #322 on: December 23, 2013, 06:30:06 PM »
JC,

congrats on the red fruit!

once they turn red, they take a while (especially this time of year) to reach the stage of being super ripe...about 1 week, or more.

if you eat it now, the texture will be slightly firmer, even slightly fibrous...it's also has a more tart flavor, with a seemingly thicker skin.   I have learned to enjoy the fruits at this stage, because the rats and birds usually get them before me if I let them go any longer.

if you can protect the fruit (maybe with a net, or small plastic clam shell package) and let it ripen for another 5-8 days, the fruit will turn a deep wine red color, the skin will become very thin, and the pulp becomes very succulent and smooth, and the flavor is much sweeter, like a blueberry yogurt to me.

btw, if you pick them early, they will ripen a bit more if you let them sit on a plate (at room tenp) for a day or two.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #323 on: December 23, 2013, 06:42:24 PM »
Thanks, Adam!  I'm going to cover it w an organza bag and wait for the red wine color. It started coloring up yesterday so I'll look forward to a weekend tasting! 

Thanks again!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #324 on: December 24, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »
Hello! I was told go for the Red jaboticaba (hybrid) and the Grimal (m spirito santensis) So they are good for fast bearing fruit and does well in pots indoors? What do you think?

If so I want to buy one of each as soon as possible! :)