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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #850 on: June 01, 2015, 12:44:56 PM »
Thanks Adam. I will leave them alone and see what will happen.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #851 on: June 01, 2015, 09:44:20 PM »
Galka,

go ahead and prune the small seedling...removing any small green branches from the oldest woody portions of your tree.

keep doing this, and the tree will typically fruit faster (in my experience)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #852 on: June 01, 2015, 11:48:55 PM »
I'll do that, Adam. BTW, all grafts on my loquats took and are pushing leaves.  :D

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #853 on: June 01, 2015, 11:54:47 PM »
I'll do that, Adam. BTW, all grafts on my loquats took and are pushing leaves.  :D

hahaha you remember how worried I was about that one tree!

I kept saying if it doesnt' take, I will graft it again!

LOL  I hope it does very well for you.

grafting the old wood of loquats like I did for that tree is very difficult IMO!

the second tree I did was much easier!

it's good to see it done both ways so you know the difference between grafting with hard wood, and semi hard wood.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #854 on: June 02, 2015, 12:07:36 AM »
I'll do that, Adam. BTW, all grafts on my loquats took and are pushing leaves.  :D

hahaha you remember how worried I was about that one tree!

I kept saying if it doesnt' take, I will graft it again!

LOL  I hope it does very well for you.

grafting the old wood of loquats like I did for that tree is very difficult IMO!

the second tree I did was much easier!

it's good to see it done both ways so you know the difference between grafting with hard wood, and semi hard wood.
Well, what can I say, Adam, you are a Pro.  :D And a good teacher too. I remember every step you showed me, just need to try them on something. Need to buy a couple boxes of bandages in case something goes wrong, haha.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #855 on: June 02, 2015, 12:52:03 AM »
Sorry, I haven't been a very reliable jaboticabaholic and haven't been sharing my problem very well here.  I've got many addictions and haven't neglected this addiction but just haven't been sharing much.

I've posted photos of my apparent Sabara tree previously, one I bought in 2008.  I've had some modest crops the past couple of years but this year it's really gone crazy.  I think it might be because I finally broke down and followed another addicts pruning advice!  I usually take photos of my tree a couple of times each day lately.  This helps since I can look at the photos when it's not near me.  :)

I think this is pretty dang good for NorCal!


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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #856 on: June 02, 2015, 01:48:04 AM »
nice photo!!

thanks for sharing!!!

I'm like a cardinal on a hot summer day...ready to peck every last one of those!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #857 on: June 02, 2015, 11:15:01 AM »
Hey Harvey, long time no hear from you glad to see your Jabo is fruiting well for you I bet all your W. Sapote's must me giant by now!! Your Jabo is Sabarah right?Thanks for sharing pic ;) 8)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #858 on: June 02, 2015, 08:54:13 PM »
So... .Seeing as this is the premier thread for Jabo lovers, I thought I'd drop by to ask the Prince and his subjects: How do you process large amounts of Jabo pulp for freezing when you don't wanna freeze 'em whole and you don't wanna juice 'em? Is there a particular technique for skin and seed removal, or is it a lost cause? I'd imagine skin removal wouldn't be too difficult, but the seed worries me a little.

I remember reading some references for Açaí and Spanish Lime that say you can pulp 'em by soaking them in water for a few hours. Tried it on Spanish Lime, didn't work. Would it work on Jabos?

I don't mind tedious hand separation as long as it's doable. Question is, is it even doable, or do the seed and skin fight you on this?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #859 on: June 02, 2015, 09:16:21 PM »
Caesar,

good question...

I just mash them through a colander, using a potato masher...

then I take all the seeds, and try to squeeze out as much juice as possible without breaking the seeds.

there is always a portion of juice/pulp, that I can't free from the seed...

but I can manually get at least 90% of the juice available in each fruit...

Im guessing you would need a machine that agitates the seeds, (like a washing machine), to totally clean the seeds, and get every last bit of pulp.

but simply put, they are a lot like grapes...except the pulp clings to the seed more, and the skin is a bit more tannic.

(I try not to break apart the skins too much when I'm pressing the fruits, the more you break down the skins, the more tannic the pulp juice becomes...and the darker the color will be...fresh jabo juice has a light whitish/pink/violet color....as it oxidizes, the color becomes a vibrant purple/pink.)

So... .Seeing as this is the premier thread for Jabo lovers, I thought I'd drop by to ask the Prince and his subjects: How do you process large amounts of Jabo pulp for freezing when you don't wanna freeze 'em whole and you don't wanna juice 'em? Is there a particular technique for skin and seed removal, or is it a lost cause? I'd imagine skin removal wouldn't be too difficult, but the seed worries me a little.

I remember reading some references for Açaí and Spanish Lime that say you can pulp 'em by soaking them in water for a few hours. Tried it on Spanish Lime, didn't work. Would it work on Jabos?

I don't mind tedious hand separation as long as it's doable. Question is, is it even doable, or do the seed and skin fight you on this?
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #860 on: June 02, 2015, 09:32:34 PM »
I can't wait till I have this freezing dilemma from my 7 Jaboticaba... :-) 

As it is I stand in front of my sabara and eat em till it's nearly picked clean and get the rest into a cup for the fridge for the next day.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #861 on: June 02, 2015, 09:50:53 PM »
Caesar,

good question...

I just mash them through a colander, using a potato masher...

then I take all the seeds, and try to squeeze out as much juice as possible without breaking the seeds.

there is always a portion of juice/pulp, that I can't free from the seed...

but I can manually get at least 90% of the juice available in each fruit...

Im guessing you would need a machine that agitates the seeds, (like a washing machine), to totally clean the seeds, and get every last bit of pulp.

but simply put, they are a lot like grapes...except the pulp clings to the seed more, and the skin is a bit more tannic.

(I try not to break apart the skins too much when I'm pressing the fruits, the more you break down the skins, the more tannic the pulp juice becomes...and the darker the color will be...fresh jabo juice has a light whitish/pink/violet color....as it oxidizes, the color becomes a vibrant purple/pink.)

Allright, so you mash 'em, remove the skins, then mash 'em again. Sounds doable.

I can't wait till I have this freezing dilemma from my 7 Jaboticaba... :-) 

As it is I stand in front of my sabara and eat em till it's nearly picked clean and get the rest into a cup for the fridge for the next day.

I don't have this dilemma yet (not even close), but I like to plan ahead. I'll have it someday, seeing as I have 6 different species, and I'm still getting more. Wonder if mashing them will work on Grimals and Blues, or if it'll be necessary on Yellows and Whites.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #862 on: June 02, 2015, 10:37:15 PM »
Lazy man's way is to freeze the jaboticabas whole (just like with lychees) and peel them as you eat them. Just doesn't work well if you're trying to save the seeds.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #863 on: June 03, 2015, 11:52:58 AM »
Hey Harvey, long time no hear from you glad to see your Jabo is fruiting well for you I bet all your W. Sapote's must me giant by now!! Your Jabo is Sabarah right?Thanks for sharing pic ;) 8)

Yes, that's right, Robert, Adam helped identify it as the Sabara variety a couple of years ago (wasn't identified when bought from Ong Nursery).  My white sapote need much more room to grow and I have some new potted ones that I plan to plant out in the open more to get the room they need.  With the mild winter we had I hope to get some early fruits to ripen.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #864 on: June 03, 2015, 12:07:19 PM »
So... .Seeing as this is the premier thread for Jabo lovers, I thought I'd drop by to ask the Prince and his subjects...."

A Prince to some, but a very small minority considers my domain rubbish...

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #865 on: June 03, 2015, 12:15:27 PM »
Love that movie!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #866 on: June 03, 2015, 12:18:05 PM »
Love that movie!

you and I are friends for sure.  ;)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #867 on: June 03, 2015, 12:25:55 PM »
No doubt

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #868 on: June 03, 2015, 12:30:25 PM »
Yes, figured it was a princess bride clip before clicking the link.
There's just some movies out there that can be seen 50 times in youth.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #869 on: June 03, 2015, 02:36:35 PM »
News for the jaboticabaholics: a seller in Brasil that have what is supposed to be one of the most rare species of jabuticaba, one that grows as a vine/liana: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-661939050-muda-grande-da-rarissima-e-deliciosa-jabuticaba-parreira-_JM.
But at least for me, the price is prohibitive... Something around USD 106.22 with delivery included...   :(
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« Reply #870 on: June 03, 2015, 06:16:43 PM »
News for the jaboticabaholics: a seller in Brasil that have what is supposed to be one of the most rare species of jabuticaba, one that grows as a vine/liana: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-661939050-muda-grande-da-rarissima-e-deliciosa-jabuticaba-parreira-_JM.
But at least for me, the price is prohibitive... Something around USD 106.22 with delivery included...   :(

The link didn't work for me. A vining jaboticaba? That's insane! What will they think of next?  ;)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #872 on: June 03, 2015, 09:13:52 PM »
Galka! thanks for fixing the link!

Cassio!  wow what an interesting find!

thanks for enlightening me...we must find out more!
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« Reply #873 on: June 03, 2015, 09:54:43 PM »
So wife is addicted to DIY yard crashers. She was watching an episode in New Orleans. Yells for me to come check it out.  They were planting a huge Jabo with a forklift.  Atleast 9-10ft tall.   Called it Brazilian Grape.  Will it survive up there with their winters?

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« Reply #874 on: June 03, 2015, 10:11:22 PM »
So... .Seeing as this is the premier thread for Jabo lovers, I thought I'd drop by to ask the Prince and his subjects...."

A Prince to some, but a very small minority considers my domain rubbish...

 ;D :P

http://youtu.be/Q_c7SbkGaLk?t=30s

Wow, haven't seen that movie in years. Classic.

Nadie tira piedras a un árbol que no da fruto... Or so my elders taught me.   ;)


News for the jaboticabaholics: a seller in Brasil that have what is supposed to be one of the most rare species of jabuticaba, one that grows as a vine/liana: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-661939050-muda-grande-da-rarissima-e-deliciosa-jabuticaba-parreira-_JM.
But at least for me, the price is prohibitive... Something around USD 106.22 with delivery included...   :(

I'd say the price is insane, but then, so is the plant. Someday...

 

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