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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #875 on: June 03, 2015, 10:19:46 PM »
I asked a knowledgeable friend from Brazil, who has pretty much seen it all when it comes to Myrciarias, he said he's never seen this variety, and believes it to be a fake!

be careful!  the price is definitely suspect!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #876 on: June 03, 2015, 10:55:29 PM »
Hey bit off topic of climbing jabos, Adam I have these vexator seedlings and gauqiea seedlings from you and just wondering do they ever straighten up or do they keep growing over to one side? Have not seen adult trees so don't know wether to stake them straight or if they straighten themselves.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #877 on: June 03, 2015, 10:59:34 PM »
Hey bit off topic of climbing jabos, Adam I have these vexator seedlings and gauqiea seedlings from you and just wondering do they ever straighten up or do they keep growing over to one side? Have not seen adult trees so don't know wether to stake them straight or if they straighten themselves.
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they will figure it out...but you can stake them if you like...I believe the guaquiea is more upright..but both can be shrub-like for sure
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #878 on: June 04, 2015, 04:21:51 PM »
I asked a knowledgeable friend from Brazil, who has pretty much seen it all when it comes to Myrciarias, he said he's never seen this variety, and believes it to be a fake!

be careful!  the price is definitely suspect!

we should try to find out more about this seller...

I asked Helton about it. He never saw this species, but he knows a person who says that it exists. This person said that the last time he saw this jaboticaba, was more than 40 years ago and never saw it again since that age !!! I'm tempted, but the price is to high ...
I bought other plants from that seller before, without problems, but that cost me just USD 10.00.
I´ll let it behind. USD 102 is to much!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #879 on: June 04, 2015, 04:23:48 PM »
Cassio,

if the plant is real, that amount of money is nothing!

I promise you can make your money back!

I will help you do it...but the plant has to be the real deal!

I asked a knowledgeable friend from Brazil, who has pretty much seen it all when it comes to Myrciarias, he said he's never seen this variety, and believes it to be a fake!

be careful!  the price is definitely suspect!

we should try to find out more about this seller...

I asked Helton about it. He never saw this species, but he knows a person who says that it exists. This person said that the last time he saw this jaboticaba, was more than 40 years ago and never saw it again since that age !!! I'm tempted, but the price is to high ...
I bought other plants from that seller before, without problems, but that cost me just USD 10.00.
I´ll let it behind. USD 102 is to much!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #880 on: June 04, 2015, 04:35:20 PM »
Hahahaha!

I just realized what a sick bastard I am!

Peer pressure is a bitch!

here were are in a self help thread, and I'm encouraging you to risk over $100 usd on a rare myrciaria!



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #881 on: June 04, 2015, 07:16:31 PM »
Hahahaha!

I just realized what a sick bastard I am!
Peer pressure is a bitch! here were are in a self help thread, and I'm encouraging you to risk over $100 usd on a rare myrciaria!

You're not sick, obsessed maybe... sick no :-) If it were in the U.S I'll bet lots of people would risk the $100!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #882 on: June 04, 2015, 07:31:29 PM »
Do like the Filipinos, and other Asians here do, and ask for a discount.  ;) A photo for proof would also be very nice. 8)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #883 on: June 04, 2015, 07:36:39 PM »
Hahahaha!

I just realized what a sick bastard I am!
Peer pressure is a bitch! here were are in a self help thread, and I'm encouraging you to risk over $100 usd on a rare myrciaria!

You're not sick, obsessed maybe... sick no :-) If it were in the U.S I'll bet lots of people would risk the $100!

that's the spirit Gary!

you can find a hundred dollar bill anywhere, but find me a vine-like jaboticaba!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #884 on: June 04, 2015, 07:39:48 PM »
Hahahaha!

I just realized what a sick bastard I am!
Peer pressure is a bitch! here were are in a self help thread, and I'm encouraging you to risk over $100 usd on a rare myrciaria!

You're not sick, obsessed maybe... sick no :-) If it were in the U.S I'll bet lots of people would risk the $100!

that's the spirit Gary!

you can find a hundred dollar bill anywhere, but find me a vine-like jaboticaba!

Consider also how much it would cost to fly back and forth to Brazil to collect the species? And also all the hassle of trying to cross border with a plant or seeds? Then you start to get the idea that $100 is not very much when considering introduction of rare species.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #885 on: June 04, 2015, 08:54:17 PM »
Hahahaha!
I just realized what a sick bastard I am!
Peer pressure is a bitch! here were are in a self help thread, and I'm encouraging you to risk over $100 usd on a rare myrciaria!
You're not sick, obsessed maybe... sick no :-) If it were in the U.S I'll bet lots of people would risk the $100!
that's the spirit Gary!
you can find a hundred dollar bill anywhere, but find me a vine-like jaboticaba!
Consider also how much it would cost to fly back and forth to Brazil to collect the species? And also all the hassle of trying to cross border with a plant or seeds? Then you start to get the idea that $100 is not very much when considering introduction of rare species.

You are all crazy men (in a good way).  ;D I know if its a real jaboticaba vine, I´ll have my money back in a short time, but surely its a risk.
USD 100 is equal to R$ 300... The seller said me the plant is 04 years old and its the last one left.  :-\ I asked about the scientific name and photos of older plants with fruits. Lets wait and see what comes.

Just as a curiosity, here it goes the link of two species that, in truth, aren´t a jabuticaba but are known as jabuticaba-de-cipó:
http://www.arvores.brasil.nom.br/lianas/jabuticacipo/
http://www.outvue.com/q/Chondodendron%20platyphyllum
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #886 on: June 04, 2015, 09:26:36 PM »
I say we all send Cassio $5 thru paypal and get rights to seeds :-)
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #887 on: June 05, 2015, 02:50:39 PM »
ID confirmation request, Adam and other jabo wise men, this means you!!!   

This jabo is flowering but it shouldn't be based my limited jabo knowledge. It is around 4 years old, 4 feet tall from the soil, in a 15 gal pot.  The tree is labeled but maybe it was mislabeled.
 







Some of the leaves are 4"+ long



Underside of the same leaf

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #888 on: June 05, 2015, 03:22:09 PM »
M. grandifolia from PIN
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #889 on: June 05, 2015, 03:25:02 PM »
I say we all send Cassio $5 thru paypal and get rights to seeds :-)

Gary!

thanks for they alley oop!

I GOT 5 ON IT!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #890 on: June 05, 2015, 03:39:30 PM »
Mislabeled as....  M. truncafolia

Thanks for the ID. 

M. grandifolia from PIN
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #891 on: June 05, 2015, 03:45:52 PM »
nice find Bro!

those reportedly take longer than that to fruit....

I have one that is larger that hasn't flowered yet!

you have been rewarded for being a real addict.

it's like waking up the morning after partying and still being drunk.  :D
Mislabeled as....  M. truncafolia

Thanks for the ID. 

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #892 on: June 05, 2015, 06:02:24 PM »
Damn hind sight is 2020, after browsing this page, I just noticed this thread is bumping!

we got reports of possible vining jaboticabas in Brazil...

a surprisingly precocious M. grandifolia in FL...

weird mutant red jaboticabas with small leaves in CA (and FL)....

and gangsta rap on tap!

this is the place to be, better than watching MTV!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #893 on: June 05, 2015, 08:22:26 PM »
Just want to share something I stumbled up on instagram. I started following this awesome Brazilian landscape architect (Alex Hanazaki). Browsing through pics of his projects and I started noticing all the large Jaboticaba trees he uses in his works. Very cool photos!












Here's a shot of a large one being planted.  ;D







If you wanna see more of his works, check out his web page
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #894 on: June 05, 2015, 08:37:59 PM »
raimeiken,

thanks for posting such great pics!!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #895 on: June 05, 2015, 08:48:59 PM »
Amazing!

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #896 on: June 05, 2015, 11:34:50 PM »
Wow, nice pic's 8)

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #897 on: June 06, 2015, 01:33:14 AM »
What do you suppose is the size of the largest jabo tree in the U.S.?  Can we all dream some day that ours will be as large as some of those landscape specimens? :)  How old do you imagine some of those are?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #898 on: June 06, 2015, 06:13:23 AM »
What do you suppose is the size of the largest jabo tree in the U.S.?  Can we all dream some day that ours will be as large as some of those landscape specimens? :)  How old do you imagine some of those are?

I'd guess those trees are 25-35 years old. I have a tree that is over 25 years old. I've seen jaboticaba trees here over 50 years old, so more than twice the size. of those in the photos In Brazil i've seen trees over 100 years old. I've posted a photo of one before. They get massive! There might be 100 year old trees here also, i've never seen them though.
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« Reply #899 on: June 06, 2015, 11:59:47 AM »
Great photos.  The one being planted looks to be about the size of my only jaboticaba, which is not quite 20 yrs old.