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What water are you using?
Thanks,

Doing a lot of experimenting on fruit trees in containers. I have a similar setup where I grow all my fruit trees in containers. I have been trying to figure out which fruits are high yield producers in a container compared to in ground.

So far what I gathered;

Fruiting cactus seem to do very well in a container environment. Cereus, Opuntia, Dragon Fruit, etc. I believe this has to do with large water/nutrient storage capacity of cactus cladodes.

Foliar spray seems to work out a lot better for nutrient delivery rather then root drench. This makes sense, since the root zone is restricted and leaves stomata are more efficient.

Water quality has a big effect in a container environment. Water with a high ph or excess salts/minerals can cause issues in a container plant quickly.

Soil mix is one of the most important elements to healthy fast growing trees. Fast draining ,with good aeration, and a decent amount of water retention are the main goals.

1127
Adam,

I just joined the Yahoo group TFCCF. How do I access the presentation that is referred to above?'
Thanks,

Trung

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I've never had a tree ripened one. Anybody has?

1129
Hey Newgen,

I had the same problem with the soil at my place being so clay-like.  So. everytime I cut the grass or there were lots of leaves to pick up, I would go over them with the lawn mower to pick.  I would then dump all the grass and leaves I got from mowing onto the soil and then dig it in and turn it over into the soil.  It works great.  After a few times of doing this, the soil is no longer rock hard, it has a completely different composition, and you are recycling your green waste. Even ask your neighbors for their grass and leaf mower clippings; the more the better.

Again, you could just dump it on top, but I found I got better results by digging it in/burying it, as well as spreading it on top.  You'll be surprised how quickly chopped up mowed grass and leaves decomposes.   You'll get this wonderful black humus type material that is great for the soil.  Within a few months, you'll have completely different soil.  It does wonders for drainage as well.  I'd leave the heavier yard clippings and green kitchen waste to compost bins though.

 - Jacob

Thanks Jacob,
I can ask the grasscutting people to just dump their stuff on my yard, instead of hauling it away.

Trung

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Sounds like you are doing a great job already, if you want banana leaves or p-stems come by and we can tie them on the top of the car. :)  They make great mulch.

-Ethan

My wife would kill me if I stuff her car full of banana leaves.  ;D Wish I had a pickup truck.
Trung

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: February 25, 2012, 08:00:12 PM »
Thanks for the post, where was this at? I didn't get any notice about this event, and I'm a member.  :o A few weeks ago, I ordered some from cherimoya.com, tried Fino de Jete, Pierce, and Bays side by side. The Pierce won by the slimmest of margin. They ALL tasted excellent. I guess I just love cherimoyas.  :) I don't really care what cultivars they are, just eat them as much as possible. Had 3 last night.  ;D The best thing? these were $2 each.

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The soil has been called clay-like and alkaline by a landscape company when I first moved in. I've added different things over the years to improve it. I never really followed any schedule when I made the amendments. I've dumped many bags of "compost" (bought at Home Depot), calcium sulfate, steer manure, chicken manure. These were done at different times over the last 4 years. It must have helped some, because last month when I was planting a persimmon, I noticed there were more earthworms, and the ground was easier to dig. In addition to the "amendments" above, I also dumped grass cuttings and all the leaves that fell off from the trees where they are, to act like a mulch layer. So what do you guys think? Should I use "compost" again, or the manure, or anything else?

Thanks,

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Murahilin, i've done some seedling experimentation, but most have turned out to be either duds, or no better than what already exists. One exception so far to this is an extra large and tasty purple starapple. I haven't named it yet or applied to list of new cultivars, but would like to do so as it is really a worthwhile one to grow. You can see photo of regular starapple on left and one i'm talking about on right:

Here is another photo, this one weighing 535 grams (over one pound):


I like starapples better than abius, both in taste and insect resistance. The abiu here is always stung by oriental fruit fly whereas the starapple is never bothered.
Oscar

One of my favorites! I went to Hawaii in December and didn't see any. Is it a very uncommon fruit in Hawaii?

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Thanks for the info. Looks like something id try from seed

If I get fruit this year, I'll give you seed for free, just pay shipping....I keep u posted! :)

If you offer stuff like that, it's good Karma  :) (lol old feature), and maybe my tree will set fruit for sure now! and I will have to be a man of my word...and send you seeds!

See I'm really selfish, with my benefit in mind, even by offering you free seeds!! :o :P :'( :blank: :blank: :blank: ;)

Weird how that works

Please, please, can I have 1 too?  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fresh Durian in South Florida (with Video)
« on: February 22, 2012, 07:02:42 PM »
It was brought back from Thailand (with a permit) and the person who brought them back had a few extra and gave me one.

I'd think that the Asian supermarkets would have fresh durians. It's not too rare to see them here in So Cal markets, don''t know when they were removed from the trees, but the fruits are not frozen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some photos of durian flowers.
« on: February 21, 2012, 02:23:11 AM »
Does anybody know if the flowers smell the same as the fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some photos of durian flowers.
« on: February 21, 2012, 12:22:31 AM »
My uncle sent them to me. Photos were taken in Viet Nam.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Some photos of durian flowers.
« on: February 21, 2012, 12:03:04 AM »
All these years of devouring durian, I've never seen the flowers.  :)









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Muntingia calabura is not underappreciated, especially by me. I love them. Had loads of them as a kid. Ethan was kind enough to let me try a few of his fruits last year. Tim sent a a small tree last month, it's been growing happily. Can't wait for it to fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding
« on: February 04, 2012, 01:44:26 AM »
I like Spray N Grow products.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 03, 2012, 06:53:47 PM »
I have Hylocereus undatus: many flowers and fruits.
Hylocereus polyrhizus: red flesh, 1st time flowers last year, no fruits set.
Hylocereus megalanthus: never could adapt to my area, is now dead,  supposedly the fruits have yellow skin. Maybe I need to grow it indoor?
In the photos below, one 1 is of the red-flesh variety (H. polyrhizus). Notice that the flower buds have different coloration and the branches have different thorn pattern than the more popular H. undatus.
I also have a small branch of Physical Graffiti, not sure what its scientific name is.








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 03, 2012, 06:52:29 PM »
Great topic nullzero!  I'm currently growing Halley's Comet, American Beauty, Vietnamese White, Yellow DF, Frankies Red and something I call Simon's Red.  The Vietnamese White is the easiest to grow and fruit for me. I have the most difficult time growing the Yellow DF outdoors but the easiest time growing it indoors under T5 lighting.  My yellow DF grew 3 branches, each that grew about 2 feet in about a month and a half in the winter indoors. 

I just took cuttings from each plant and I'm going to start new with a planned out set up.  Previously, I just stuck them in a pot and let them climb everywhere.  They grew and fruited well this way but it was sloppy looking.  This time, I'm going to try growing them in smart pots and grow them as a DF tree like they do in Vietnam. 

I grow my DF in full sun but they do get burned in the summertime.  This summer, I may throw some shade cloth over them during the hottest part of the summer. 
Simon

Simon,
What do you suppose is the reason that the yellow DF is more difficult to grow? I have a yellow DF branch, I stuck it into the ground next to the others, it just withered and died, while the others grew normally. Why does it grow better indoor? Humidity?

1143
its a Casimiroa edulis, but is it grafted?

 ;)

It came like this in Sep 2009


I just went out and took a look at the trunk, and can't see any graft mark. See 2nd photo above.

1144
I just "discovered" that I already have a white sapote planted in the ground. I thought it was another variety, but looking at my records, it was a white sapote from Home Depot. However, they're known to mislabel plants. Can you guys tell from these photos if it's a "white" sapote?

Ethan: does this tree look like it's ready for some grafts?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 03, 2012, 11:19:35 AM »
sjn: how cold does it get in your area? I'm not sure that your DF need any protection. Mine are in full sun, with several summer days over 100 F (usually 90s) , and in the winter with low temps around the 30s.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 03, 2012, 01:58:36 AM »
I would classify that over half of the fruits were on the sweet side, the rest kinda bland. I've heard that after the fruits set, you're supposed to reduce watering to get sweet fruits. I honestly don't remember my watering pattern when I had the fruits, it was over last summer, and it was pretty hot and dry here in my area, so more than likely I didn't withhold water. Will try to leave them thirsty this coming summer.  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 02, 2012, 11:40:39 PM »
I have Hylocereus undatus: many flowers and fruits.
Hylocereus polyrhizus: red flesh, 1st time flowers last year, no fruits set.
Hylocereus megalanthus: still very short, hardly growing at all,  supposedly the fruits have yellow skin.
In the photos below, one 1 is of the red-flesh variety (H. polyrhizus). Notice that the flower buds have different coloration and the branches have different thorn pattern than the more popular H. undatus.
I also have a small branch of Physical Graffiti, not sure what its scientific name is.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing mangoes in clear containers
« on: February 02, 2012, 09:26:16 PM »
While I don't know the answer to your question, I think it'd be a great idea to grow things in clear containers so we can tell for sure if the plant is rootbound, or not. I haven't seen any large size clear containers.

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Is it OK/safe to eat the skin as well? On my ripe fruit, the skin is so thin, so I didn't bother peeling it off, it's as thin as grape skin.

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My thoughts......flavor good....not great.....the major objection for me is seeds, seeds and even more seeds.  Very poor flesh to see ratio.  For me, not enough bang for the proverbial buck......tropical flavor notwtihstanding.

Harry

That's why I hate pomegranates. The seeds are numerous (and larger than seeds of passion fruits), and the taste is anywhere from sour to kinda sweet, poor ROI for me. 

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