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I'm also interested. Living in portugal!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 25, 2019, 06:53:41 AM »
I've done some more fact checking. The reported number of fires has been around 74,000. However, the system in Brazil is not able to discriminate between pasture burning and forest fires. Pasture burning is very common and August is the traditional time. So, no one knows exactly how much of the reported number of fires are due to deforestation activities or burning of grassland pastures. In fact, pay close attention to aerial and ground video of the fires and you will see pasture and scrub vegetation being burnt as well as previously cleared land.

The root of this appears to be related to a reported statement by President Bolsonaro in which he allegedly said some groups have been burning to embarrass him. I found that several weeks ago such a group of farmers did indeed plan a "dia do fogo" (day of fire).
here is the inception of the fires as discussed on August 5th:

I find it a bit strange. One day this news is on facebook saying media is not covering this story. The next day its all over normal news. Blaming and shaming Bolsonaro. And Im no fan. Of Trump neither but I find it a bit strange that media can make fun of legal presidents like that. And it whouldnt chock me if it was true that there is a conspiracy against Bolsonaro. So easy to do. And thats how politics works this days.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 02:36:45 PM »
I agree with some of the posts here: pointing out that a country is socialist or capitalist is absolutely unhelpful and takes the conversation in an irrelevant direction. The fact is that humans consume resources, and without some type of government intervention and education, these resources will be depleted beyond sustainable levels. This is, literally the tragedy of the global commons.

That said, everything in the world is NOT simply "Media Hype" because we wither don't want to be inconvenienced by distressing realities. The Rainforests of South America are not only the planets lungs, and a major heat sink, they are a source of untapped potential ethnobotanical cures among other possibilities. Taking the large scale destruction of this biome is the absolute least we can do.

And while true the deforestation rates over the past decade have shown a slow-down, that slow-down is still not a sustainable trajectory. Couple that with the fact that this land clearing has ramped up in the last 12-18 months should not be considered an anomaly. This is human action. Not lightning strikes. What is driving that action? Poverty? Lax government oversight? Poor education? Greed?

Those last four questions need to be considered seriously.

I think that its totally necesary to talk about the root of the problem. Why are people destroying the planet that is suppose to provide them? If you let capital decide then there is only one value.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 09:18:09 AM »
Exploiting nature is a fundamental way of living for everyone, whether you are a Capitalist, Communist, Socialist or any other kind of -ist. The question is what is the effects on the area you are employing for your survival. The Amazon basin is pretty darn important for our planetary system as a whole. It makes a bunch of the oxygen we breathe, and a lot of CO2 that our trees need to feed us. I don't think anyone is shaming the Brazilians or the Bolivians. And when you try to shame the EU or USA think about how much aid we send annually to those areas.

Yes we are paying some tp protect the amazon. And its also true that socialist countries exploit. And I think we have the right to. But I think we exploit to much. We import soya to feed our animals so we can have an unnaturally high meat consumtion. And milk and too. Whats wrong with european grass? Maybe there is simply not enough and thats why we import goodies from other countries that then have to deal with the eco-problems. Its called out-sourcing and europe are experts. Thats why I attack europe and Us because this is the countries that show their fingers to others while not cleaning their own front. Im a european myself but I try not take more then i need.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 08:22:00 AM »
I think its easy to blame brazil for burning the amazon but its not a local problem. Exploiting nature is a fundamental part of capitalism and then I think europe and Us are using more of the goodies then brazil. So they shouldnt through stones in the glasshouse and they shouldnt put anyone else then themselves in the shaming corner.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Grafting
« on: July 02, 2019, 04:47:25 PM »
Im also starting with grafting. Find it really cool but now I really need to graft a lot after the fire we had here. I had great success with barkgrafting and cleft grafting on peaches, 80 % so most trees have several grafts taking. I tried with orange on lemon. No success but maybe it was to early. Now I tried again with whip and tounge i think its called. Tried with a tar to cover and with tape. The electric tape works great in spring with peaches and so but in the summerheat I think the tape dries and rolls up a bit. Tried with chip bud now. Appearently the only graft you can do all year round. Fixed it to the roots with organic thread made of straw, then cover that with plastic film and finally cover that with aluminium folie. Made it some days ago so lets see, oxala :)

But I think i will stick to this way of covering the graft. If i get my hands on parafilm then i whould change that for the plastic film but I think its mostly a comfort working with. Have a friend that uses any plastic and then cover everything with clay soil. Works great!

But I whould love to read more and look forward to many good answers. How to succed with harder grafts as macadamia and mulberry??

Im looking for something like jackfruit. Dont know if they are all as hardy as the original?? and how they taste,, but I guess they commercial once as tasty.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: wild jack seeds for trade or sale
« on: February 07, 2019, 11:29:14 AM »
Are they good to eat? Im on the lookout for some jackfruit.. cant you get other seeds to? like chico sapote? :P

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eating loquat seeds
« on: May 15, 2016, 04:45:51 AM »
Thx people, I heard that cyanide is more or less the same as arsenic. So tonight I will be fucking like a horse  :o

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eating loquat seeds
« on: May 12, 2016, 09:19:48 AM »
Hey, I have a lot of Loquats this year and they are beautiful. Makes me sad though that I cant eat them all, my mouth dont like to much acid as well and some trees are slightly acid. So I started making juice in my wheat grass press. Its just a little bit of problem (industrial country problem ;) ) The loquats tends to block the filter and its hard to juice them. Also, I need to pick out the kernel as well, since Im very afraid of poisoning myself :)

I have been googling a bit on the topic and some eat them, some dont, some make some wine even. For me it whould save a lot of work if I didnt have to pick out the kernel and then I think that the kernel even whould help keeping the filter in the juicer open.

So I will not eat the kernel but it will be pressed. What do you think? Will I die? ;)

looking good Luis! Keep up the good work and posts!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Digging up a mango - advice
« on: April 14, 2016, 01:13:54 AM »
Hello. I have this mango, doing ok, but its placed pretty bad and some problems will allways be there. Like its pretty close to a avocado tree and mainly its in the bottom of my valley and I found out they like it a lot more up on the hill with a lot of wintersun. So if I dig it up I could put it in a new place I have made. The advice I want is wether this tree will be worth plating in a new space? A tree cost 15 euros here and its nothing if the tree grows a lot better.
I also wonder about the time? It just started to shoot new here and that one as well.

I was digging up a lot of other trees and they seem allright, more or less. But this was in winter when they were sleeping. So,, when is the best time to digg up a tropical tree?


Unfortunately I was to late and the I have to wait until December for next season, but normally they sell tropicals in the summer, how come?


If somebody knows where to find this one in europe, portugal, then let me know
Hi! You only want a scion or want to buy a tree?

Hi Luis, I would prefer to buy a tree but Im up for anything, seeds, cuttnings,,

If somebody knows where to find this one in europe, portugal, then let me know

Nice banana Luis. May it produce nice fruits for you. This year I have many stalks coming out but they dont come fully. I guess more organic matter and bigger holes. How will you fruit them? In pots?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruiting dates in Europe?
« on: July 18, 2015, 05:23:42 AM »

I have been planting some dates around my land but then I start to be believe its a fruitless work. I mean, the Arabs where here before and if they didnt manage to grow dates then why should I? Been hearing about dates fruiting i spain but I guess that is rare and still spain is slightly hotter then in portugal where I live. Have anybody hear more about succesfull date fruiting in europe, please let me know. You might safe some date palm ;)

Portugal are hiding all nice stuff :) Thx!

Dear Luis. This is good news,

I might go there to look around. It looks like an interesting viveiro.

Abraco :)

Hey, Hope that all people and plants past the winter happily. :)

I live in portugal and if somebody here can arrange me some seeds or maybe even better some live plant then I would be very happy. Im also interested in other stuff i dont have. Like acacia confusa, I would like that one as well but it does not make any fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Banana Harvest Before The Frost
« on: November 25, 2014, 12:08:33 AM »
mmm, bananas  :P

I saw something that looked like a banana flower coming up on my bananas yesterday,, my first  :-*

Soo,, is this good or what? When can I expect bananas?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What can be grown in Europe, zone 10?
« on: November 25, 2014, 12:04:14 AM »
he sure does! What do you think he meant by taking  my manzanillo these autum? ;)

No no, the lord is good to me, I had my first super mango some weeks ago, really nice and big - kent. And many mangos are givng new sprouts now. I live just in the foot of a big mountain. And here it didnt get frosty but just some km up it does. But... the areas thats good to grow exotic stuff is the areas south of this mountain. We get protected from the cold northern winds and in the sunny days its gets warmer here, in its stays longer in the nghts.

its important to look for a protected place.

No,, Im not moving back home  ;D I want to make a present to my sister and her family. They live in a very "warm" place in sweden and their walnut and almonds seems to like it. They also planted some special fig that we hope will take the winter good.

Except Asimina Im thinking of pecan, mullberry and jujube but they maybe will be better grafted?

Please give me suggestion or suggest me a package to sent them.

Merry x-mas (I offically started the x-mas stress) :)

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